Report: Oklahoma dismisses starting QB Bomar

[hatvol96]

Are you freaking serious? Washington is absolutely awful, and even if this game were on the road for the Sooners, they'd win by 20+.

With Bomar and the starting OL, they were going to outclass Oregon up there, and now it's a toss-up. Texas has to be a loss, I agree. A&M absolutely STUNK last year. Tech will be another Toss up.

OKLAHOME STATE SUCKS TOO!

Mizzou is okay.

I'm just kind of shocked about your mentions of Washington, OKST, and A&M. Did you think this was 2002?or 2000?

More like 1988.

 

[therealUT]

Are you freaking serious? Washington is absolutely awful, and even if this game were on the road for the Sooners, they'd win by 20+.

With Bomar and the starting OL, they were going to outclass Oregon up there, and now it's a toss-up. Texas has to be a loss, I agree. A&M absolutely STUNK last year. Tech will be another Toss up.

OKLAHOME STATE SUCKS TOO!

Mizzou is okay.

I'm just kind of shocked about your mentions of Washington, OKST, and A&M. Did you think this was 2002?or 2000?

I have faith that Willingham will have his team ready to play. Also, people forget that OU was only a 8 win team last year...with Bomar! To believe that without him, they are going to win 8 or 9 games this year is absurd.

 

[VolinArizona]

More like 1988.

I was going to say something like that, but Washington had a 1 loss year sometime in this century. Either year was funny, because his statements were so silly.

 

[hatvol96]

I have faith that Willingham will have his team ready to play. Also, people forget that OU was only a 8 win team last year...with Bomar! To believe that without him, they are going to win 8 or 9 games this year is absurd.

By that logic, when you factor the losses on defense UT had, they will go roughly 2-10.

 

[utvolpj]

I have faith that Willingham will have his team ready to play. Also, people forget that OU was only a 8 win team last year...with Bomar! To believe that without him, they are going to win 8 or 9 games this year is absurd.

Just remember, ND believed that too. Didn't really work out like they planned.

 

[VolinArizona]

I have faith that Willingham will have his team ready to play. Also, people forget that OU was only a 8 win team last year...with Bomar! To believe that without him, they are going to win 8 or 9 games this year is absurd.

Washington won 2 games last season (Idaho and Arizona). The only good team they kept it close with was a 4 point loss @ UCLA. They could lose 10 games this season, as well. I like TW as well, but Washington will not stay close with Oklahoma with LIO at QB.

As for OU. OU was a 9 win team last season, but got hosed against TT. The best RB in the country was never 100%, but is now. Their defense is panning out to be the BEST BEST BEST BEST in the country. The loss of the OL is possibly worse than losing Bomar. Losing both is a pretty big deal, but OU was probably either going 11-1 or 12-0. Now 9 wins seems about right.

Wins:
UAB
Washington
MTSU
@ Baylor
@ OKST
Colorado

Likely wins:
Iowa State
@ Mizzou
@ A&M

Toss-ups:
@ Oregon
Texas Tech

Likely losses:
Texas

If they can't win 8 of the top 9 games, their problems go far deeper than losing Bomar.

 

[hatvol96]

I have faith that Willingham will have his team ready to play. Also, people forget that OU was only a 8 win team last year...with Bomar! To believe that without him, they are going to win 8 or 9 games this year is absurd.

Adrian Peterson never being at 100% had something to do with last year's struggles. So did playing an inordinate number of freshmen and sophomores. I'm sure this is hard for anyone who follows UT to believe, but some programs actually develop players. Yes, as amazing as it seems, some programs have players that actually improve the longer they are on campus. I do realize that, since UT fans haven't seen any of that in a long time, you're skeptical. Trust me, player development is not a myth.

 

[milohimself]

Adrian Peterson never being at 100% had something to do with last year's struggles. So did playing an inordinate number of freshmen and sophomores. I'm sure this is hard for anyone who follows UT to believe, but some programs actually develop players. Yes, as amazing as it seems, some programs have players that actually improve the longer they are on campus. I do realize that, since UT fans haven't seen any of that in a long time, you're skeptical. Trust me, player development is not a myth.

Back to Oklahoma...

 

[volinbham]

Adrian Peterson never being at 100% had something to do with last year's struggles. So did playing an inordinate number of freshmen and sophomores. I'm sure this is hard for anyone who follows UT to believe, but some programs actually develop players. Yes, as amazing as it seems, some programs have players that actually improve the longer they are on campus. I do realize that, since UT fans haven't seen any of that in a long time, you're skeptical. Trust me, player development is not a myth.

Hmmmm, now back to back 9 win seasons represents "Greatness". Losing players to injury or having a roster with many underclassmen is not a reflection of coaching but rather an explanatory reason for failing to win a conference championship, NC, etc. Good to know...

 

[VolinArizona]

Hmmmm, now back to back 9 win seasons represents "Greatness". Losing players to injury or having a roster with many underclassmen is not a reflection of coaching but rather an explanatory reason for failing to win a conference championship, NC, etc. Good to know...

A couple of things:

1) Oklahoma won a conference title in 2004. I know for a fact if Tennessee had won a championship in 2002, 2003, or 2004, 99% of the Fulmer detractors would not be detractors. (And I don't think you were implying that OU has had back to back 9 win seasons, but in case you were, they haven't: 12 and 9)

2) Tennessee had plenty of upperclassman the last 7 seasons, especially last season.

3) When did anyone say back to back 9 win seasons was "greatness"?

I'm personally not a quote unquote (and yes, I'll use quotes ) "NegaVol" but I didn't see hat say Oklahoma had a great season.

 

[volinbham]

A couple of things:

1) Oklahoma won a conference title in 2004. I know for a fact if Tennessee had won a championship in 2002, 2003, or 2004, 99% of the Fulmer detractors would not be detractors. (And I don't think you were implying that OU has had back to back 9 win seasons, but in case you were, they haven't: 12 and 9)

2) Tennessee had plenty of upperclassman the last 7 seasons, especially last season.

3) When did anyone say back to back 9 win seasons was "greatness"?

I'm personally not a quote unquote (and yes, I'll use quotes ) "NegaVol" but I didn't see hat say Oklahoma had a great season.

I don't want to derail this thread any further so I'll just respond once:

We've been lectured on what it means to be great - it is a certain amount of W's vs. L's and nothing else matters (including any reasons for L's).

Last year they (OU) were a 9 win team and the predictions in this thread are for 8 - 9 wins again yet those same prognosticators refer to OU being great.

Further, saying one player doesn't make a team (paraphrasing Stoops - who I think is a great coach BTW) has been praised as a sign of a great program when any coach in the same situation would say the same damn thing. This kid has NCAA probation written all over him - of course you want to distance yourself as much as possible.

In short, I found it ironic and funny that OU could be called great while excused for their less than great performance last year due to injuries/underclassmen (something all teams face to some degree) and predicted to be an also ran this year. eace2:

 

[hatvol96]

I don't want to derail this thread any further so I'll just respond once:

We've been lectured on what it means to be great - it is a certain amount of W's vs. L's and nothing else matters (including any reasons for L's).

Last year they (OU) were a 9 win team and the predictions in this thread are for 8 - 9 wins again yet those same prognosticators refer to OU being great.

Further, saying one player doesn't make a team (paraphrasing Stoops - who I think is a great coach BTW) has been praised as a sign of a great program when any coach in the same situation would say the same damn thing. This kid has NCAA probation written all over him - of course you want to distance yourself as much as possible.

In short, I found it ironic and funny that OU could be called great while excused for their less than great performance last year due to injuries/underclassmen (something all teams face to some degree) and predicted to be an also ran this year. eace2:

OU's record since 2000 speaks for itself. 5-6 does, too.

 

[tvolsfan]

Washington is terrible. OU would beat them with Bo Hardegree under center. Missouri and OK State aren't any good, either. A&M is mediocre and Tech hasn't come close to beating Stoops in Norman. The chief beneficiary of this is Oregon. They can realistically think about making a BCS game now. It also puts Texas, if they can defend their home field against the Buckeyes, in a great position to defend their title.

I agree with this 100%. not a word in that i would change. missouri may have given them a test last year with brad smith but not this time.

oregon will beat them.

 

[OrangeSquare]

OU's record since 2000 speaks for itself. 5-6 does, too.

Keep saying 5-6......maybe it will stick and you can go back to pulling for OU ONLY.

 

[therealUT]

OU is indeed done in 2006:

Sophomore Joey Halzle, a junior college transfer from Golden West Community College in Huntington Beach, Calif., takes Bomar's spot at the top of the depth chart heading into preseason camp. He threw for 2,077 yards and 13 touchdowns in his only season of juco football last season and has three years of eligibility left. Halzle's only other scholarship offer reportedly came from Wyoming. Paul Thompson, who started at quarterback in the loss to TCU and then lost his job to Bomar and moved to wide receiver last season.

Last season, when Bomar struggled early, opponents stacked the line and dared Oklahoma to throw. Only one starter is back on the offensive line.

And, now for the best part of the article, mentioned especially for you Hat:

By booting his quarterback, Stoops might have jeopardized another season. At least he didn't sacrifice his integrity, which is something Barry Switzer might have done.

 

[hatvol96]

OU is indeed done in 2006:
And, now for the best part of the article, mentioned especially for you Hat:

Interesting that you didn't name the author, ESPN's Mark Schlabach. Would that be because the author is a writer who has consistently opined that TCHFCATUTK is a rotund buffoon who runs a program littered with miscreants? If you're willing to accept Schlabach as a fountain of truth, I can live with the idea, probably accurate, that King Barry probably wouldn't have booted Bomar. Also, OU will still win as many, if not more, games than UT this year.

 

[therealUT]

Interesting that you didn't name the author, ESPN's Mark Schlabach. Would that be because the author is a writer who has consistently opined that TCHFCATUTK is a rotund buffoon who runs a program littered with miscreants? If you're willing to accept Schlabach as a fountain of truth, I can live with the idea, probably accurate, that King Barry probably wouldn't have booted Bomar. Also, OU will still win as many, if not more, games than UT this year.

OU still does not have a QB. They have a more than suspect offensive line. They only won 8 games last season. And, Adrian Peterson, for all his hype, was awful last year against any decent defense. The only loss he was hampered by injury in was the loss to Texas.

 

[hatvol96]

OU still does not have a QB. They have a more than suspect offensive line. They only won 8 games last season. And, Adrian Peterson, for all his hype, was awful last year against any decent defense. The only loss he was hampered by injury in was the loss to Texas.

Which will make it even more embarassing for the Fulmerites when Stoops wins more games this year than TCHFCATUTK.

 

[therealUT]

Which will make it even more embarassing for the Fulmerites when Stoops wins more games this year than TCHFCATUTK.

And if OU does not win more games that UT? Will you be calling for Stoops head?

 

[hatvol96]

And if OU does not win more games that UT? Will you be calling for Stoops head?

Stoops isn't coming into the season with a seven year championship drought, capped off with a 5-6 season.

 

[therealUT]

Stoops isn't coming into the season with a seven year championship drought, capped off with a 5-6 season.

Fulmer came into the 2006 season on the back of two 10 win seasons, yet you wanted him canned prior to the 5-6 season. Fulmer's record in the four seasons from '01-'04 was 39-13 (.750.) In those four seasons, he won the SEC East Division twice. Both times losing to National Championship caliber teams in the SEC CG (LSU and Auburn.)

Stoops is riding on the back of an 8 win and a 12 win season (20 wins in 2 seasons...) and a four year record of 44-9 (.830.) In those 4 years, he won the Big XII twice (in the Big XII Championship games, played an 8-5 Colorado team in 2004 and 9-5 Colorado team in 2002.)

 

[hatvol96]

Fulmer came into the 2006 season on the back of two 10 win seasons, yet you wanted him canned prior to the 5-6 season. Fulmer's record in the four seasons from '01-'04 was 39-13 (.750.) In those four seasons, he won the SEC East Division twice. Both times losing to National Championship caliber teams in the SEC CG (LSU and Auburn.)

Stoops is riding on the back of an 8 win and a 12 win season (20 wins in 2 seasons...) and a four year record of 44-9 (.830.) In those 4 years, he won the Big XII twice (in the Big XII Championship games, played an 8-5 Colorado team in 2004 and 9-5 Colorado team in 2002.)

1.LSU was not a National Championship caliber team in 2001.
2. 2 championships in four years is pretty good. That's the same number TCHFCATUTK has won in 13.
3. I would figure all of the winning percentage worshippers would concede that .830 beats .750 easily.

 

[hatvol96]

Fulmer came into the 2006 season on the back of two 10 win seasons, yet you wanted him canned prior to the 5-6 season. Fulmer's record in the four seasons from '01-'04 was 39-13 (.750.) In those four seasons, he won the SEC East Division twice. Both times losing to National Championship caliber teams in the SEC CG (LSU and Auburn.)

Stoops is riding on the back of an 8 win and a 12 win season (20 wins in 2 seasons...) and a four year record of 44-9 (.830.) In those 4 years, he won the Big XII twice (in the Big XII Championship games, played an 8-5 Colorado team in 2004 and 9-5 Colorado team in 2002.)

So, 3 loss teams are "National Championship" caliber? By that logic, OU was a dubious call at Texas Tech from being elite last year.

 

[WA_Vol]

From what I heard, Bomar had character issues almost from day 1. Stoops had 2 top freshmen recruits, one of them transferred last year when he realized he would be playing behind Bomar. Now Stoops is moving one of the WR's back to QB to compete for the job. IMO another disappointing season for Okla this year.

Adrian Peterson worked for this same dealership and was given a car to try out for 5 weeks.

 

[therealUT]

So, 3 loss teams are "National Championship" caliber? By that logic, OU was a dubious call at Texas Tech from being elite last year.

Three losses is night and day away from 5 losses. Stoops has had a much easier ride to championships at OU and in the BigXII than Fulmer has had in the SEC.