Report: Oklahoma dismisses starting QB Bomar

#51
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(oklavol @ Aug 3 said:
From what I heard, Bomar had character issues almost from day 1. Stoops had 2 top freshmen recruits, one of them transferred last year when he realized he would be playing behind Bomar. Now Stoops is moving one of the WR's back to QB to compete for the job. IMO another disappointing season for Okla this year.

Adrian Peterson worked for this same dealership and was given a car to try out for 5 weeks.

Skeptics will speculate that Stoops took swift and complete action against Bomar and the OL to keep the NCAA from investigating Peterson.
 
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(therealUT @ Aug 3 said:
Skeptics will speculate that Stoops took swift and complete action against Bomar and the OL to keep the NCAA from investigating Peterson.
You should really know your facts before you post. An investigation has already been done regarding the arrangement Peterson had with Big Red concerning his pre-owned Lexis. No harm, no foul.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Aug 3 said:
You should really know your facts before you post. An investigation has already been done regarding the arrangement Peterson had with Big Red concerning his pre-owned Lexis. No harm, no foul.

You should work on understanding. Regardless of what any NCAA investigations have turned up, skeptics will still contend the action taken by Stoops was to keep heat off of his star player.
 
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(therealUT @ Aug 3 said:
You should work on understanding. Regardless of what any NCAA investigations have turned up, skeptics will still contend the action taken by Stoops was to keep heat off of his star player.
Then the skeptics would be idiots.
 
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Didn't Oklahoma have a QB problem in 2000? It was probably not as concerning as this season, but they won their 2000 title on defense ALONE.

Peterson is the best RB in the country, and with the defense OU will field, 10 wins is still easily possible.
 
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(VolinArizona @ Aug 3 said:
Didn't Oklahoma have a QB problem in 2000? It was probably not as concerning as this season, but they won their 2000 title on defense ALONE.

Peterson is the best RB in the country, and with the defense OU will field, 10 wins is still easily possible.
No. Josh Heupel was steady under center. You are correct in your assertion that defense was a strength of that team. They held FSU scoreless in the Title game. The only Seminole points resulted from a safety off a bad snap to the punter.
 
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(therealUT @ Aug 3 said:
You should work on understanding. Regardless of what any NCAA investigations have turned up, skeptics will still contend the action taken by Stoops was to keep heat off of his star player.

The official line is, he was considering buying a car from the dealership and was given the car to try out and that this wasn't uncommon by dealerships. He also worked for the dealership.

No doubt when he is in the NFL he will have money for plenty of cars. Probably wanted to build a good relationship with the future millionaire. I doubt many of us, except maybe Hat, would get to tryout a car we want to buy for 5 weeks.
 
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(VolinArizona @ Aug 3 said:
Didn't Oklahoma have a QB problem in 2000? It was probably not as concerning as this season, but they won their 2000 title on defense ALONE.

Peterson is the best RB in the country, and with the defense OU will field, 10 wins is still easily possible.

Huepel was the Heisman runner-up.
 
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Thinkin' about it... I'm gonna put OU neck and neck with UT for the Big XII South (and probably Big XII title). I feel as hard-assed as a coach when I say, on offense, no offensive line = no offense. Period, end of story. All backfield/wideout talent in the world won't save if you can't BLOCK. Fans in Norman are simply saying "It's okay, we've still got Adrian Peterson." 2004 was a bad year to set the bar, with such an amazing team to play for. Heisman winner Jason White under center, a fantastic offensive line, some of the best receivers in the country.

We'll see how it goes.
 
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(milohimself @ Aug 3 said:
Thinkin' about it... I'm gonna put OU neck and neck with UT for the Big XII South (and probably Big XII title). I feel as hard-assed as a coach when I say, on offense, no offensive line = no offense. Period, end of story. All backfield/wideout talent in the world won't save if you can't BLOCK. Fans in Norman are simply saying "It's okay, we've still got Adrian Peterson." 2004 was a bad year to set the bar, with such an amazing team to play for. Heisman winner Jason White under center, a fantastic offensive line, some of the best receivers in the country.

We'll see how it goes.

I agree. And if Peterson could only put up the following numbers against the following teams in 2005, he is not going to do anything behind the 2006 O-Line.

TCU 22 Att. 63 Yds.
UCLA 23 Att. 58 Yds.
Oregon 23 Att. 84 Yds.

Peterson only rushed for over 150 yds against Ok. State and Tulsa.
 
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Collin Cowherd said today that Stoops' was beginning to shop his name to the NFL for 07. Stoops "insiders" attributed the move to problems with NCAA and 19 year old kids. It will be interesting to see what happens.
 
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(Lexvol @ Aug 3 said:
Collin Cowherd said today that Stoops' was beginning to shop his name to the NFL for 07. Stoops "insiders" attributed the move to problems with NCAA and 19 year old kids. It will be interesting to see what happens.
I've always thought coaches who have the opportunity to coach in the NFL or NBA are crazy to pass on the chance. I even told Huggins as much when he turned the Clippers down a couple of years ago. In the pros, you're a coach. In college, you're a coach/social worker/fund raiser/public relations worker/psychologist/warden.
 
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In the pros, you're also held hostage to the amount of talent your front office is willing/able to get.
 
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(therealUT @ Aug 3 said:
I agree. And if Peterson could only put up the following numbers against the following teams in 2005, he is not going to do anything behind the 2006 O-Line.
Peterson only rushed for over 150 yds against Ok. State and Tulsa.


Peterson was injured the entire first half of the season (TCU and UCLA in that span). Why is 150 yards the measure of success? That's a ton of yards. Peterson ran for over 100 yards in the last 4 games of the regular season (including against Nebraska who had allowed only 124 yards a game on defense). I'm not really sure why you're hellbent on bashing OU and Peterson. They are one of the programs that all should strive to be.

I hate that it seems like I disagree with only your posts, but thats not the way it is. :) You make good points, but sometimes it seems like you are offbase (Washington comments mostly). Regardless, even though you haven't mentioned it, just know I'm not specifically picking your posts to disagree with. I like that you can discuss things in civil manners, even if we don't see it the same way. :)
 
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(VolinArizona @ Aug 3 said:
Didn't Oklahoma have a QB problem in 2000? It was probably not as concerning as this season, but they won their 2000 title on defense ALONE.

Peterson is the best RB in the country, and with the defense OU will field, 10 wins is still easily possible.

they didn't win on defense alone. josh huepel had a good year and quinten griffin was also good.
 
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(tvolsfan @ Aug 3 said:
they didn't win on defense alone. josh huepel had a good year and quinten griffin was also good.

Yeah, I got a little ahead of myself, but in the title game, they only scored 13 points.
 
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(VolinArizona @ Aug 3 said:
Yeah, I got a little ahead of myself, but in the title game, they only scored 13 points.


yeah thats true.

i know the big 12 isnt the strongest conf. but they also had scores of 55, 45, 42, 34, 63, 41, 31, 56, 35, and 27 twice. there other two were 13 against fsu, and a surprising 12 agasint oklahoma state.

if you want a team that one, only because of defense, look at 2002 ohio state. yes they scored 31 in the title, but that was against a weak canes defense, with actually only 17 points in regulation.

they scored 410 points on the year, but that is because they loaded up on a couple horrible defenses, then were pretty much praying for points against every other team.
 
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(tvolsfan @ Aug 3 said:
yeah thats true.

i know the big 12 isnt the strongest conf. but they also had scores of 55, 45, 42, 34, 63, 41, 31, 56, 35, and 27 twice. there other two were 13 against fsu, and a surprising 12 agasint oklahoma state.

if you want a team that one, only because of defense, look at 2002 ohio state. yes they scored 31 in the title, but that was against a weak canes defense, with actually only 17 points in regulation.

they scored 410 points on the year, but that is because they loaded up on a couple horrible defenses, then were pretty much praying for points against every other team.

There was nothing weak about that Cane defense. One year after that game, Miami set all kinds of records for most players taken in the draft and in the high rounds of the draft. Just a few of them include DJ Williams, Johnathon Vilma, Sean Taylor, and Vince Wilfork. All those guys were on defense. Miami probably has the most guys excelling on NFL defenses of any college program. The only thing weak in that championship game was the officiating.
 
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(kptvol @ Aug 3 said:
There was nothing weak about that Cane defense. One year after that game, Miami set all kinds of records for most players taken in the draft and in the high rounds of the draft. Just a few of them include DJ Williams, Johnathon Vilma, Sean Taylor, and Vince Wilfork. All those guys were on defense. Miami probably has the most guys excelling on NFL defenses of any college program. The only thing weak in that championship game was the officiating.
Thank you for saying that so I didn't have to.
 
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(kptvol @ Aug 3 said:
There was nothing weak about that Cane defense. One year after that game, Miami set all kinds of records for most players taken in the draft and in the high rounds of the draft. Just a few of them include DJ Williams, Johnathon Vilma, Sean Taylor, and Vince Wilfork. All those guys were on defense. Miami probably has the most guys excelling on NFL defenses of any college program. The only thing weak in that championship game was the officiating.

the year before, they were very good. (when the won the title) they averaged 9 points a game.

the stars may have been there the year after, they averaged almost 20 points given up a game, which may not be a lot be a lot for all teams, but definately for a team that makes it to the national championship. they had some great games, but sometimes they needed their offense to carry them all the way.
 
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(tvolsfan @ Aug 4 said:
the year before, they were very good. (when the won the title) they averaged 9 points a game.

the stars may have been there the year after, they averaged almost 20 points given up a game, which may not be a lot be a lot for all teams, but definately for a team that makes it to the national championship.

Probably because the starters on defense would get pulled after Ken Dorsey, Willis McGahee, and company acquired an enormous lead. At least that's what happened when they came to Knoxville. How many points did we score in that game?
 
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(kptvol @ Aug 4 said:
Probably because the starters on defense would get pulled after Ken Dorsey, Willis McGahee, and company acquired an enormous lead.

that was not the case. i dont know about you, but i watched them a lot that year. as i said before, they had some good games in there defensively, but other times they really struggled to keep the other team out.

and also, yes i know we scored 3, but can that was a bad year.

what do you mean by a weak defense? they gave up a lot of points a game, compared to most title contenders, but if you watched them, you would know they had a lot of trouble closing out games that year. they had games they should have been able to win easier but they couln't keep the other team from driving against them.
 

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