RFK out of the race. Tells America to support Trump!

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BigOrangeMojo said:
Ive been talking about securing the border AND enforcing existing laws.

If you don't do both, you don't make progress...

Nice try though
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If they’re here and undocumented then how do we know how many that’s actually here? If somehow we do know about them then why aren’t they being shipped out?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Nice shift. Argument doesn't hold up, change the rules. You sound like a bama fan. 😅
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Here was the original comment earlier. No shift...

Not enforcing is why Obama outdeported Trump in each of his terms...

BigOrangeMojo said:
Trump spending 4 years not enforcing existing immigration laws to please his ag and construction base says a lot more about his true stance than being against a pork-laden election year bill...
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Here was the original comment earlier. No shift...

Not enforcing is why Obama outdeported Trump in each of his terms...
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And it had nothing to do with my post. You moved the goal post. I posted about a secure border. You responded to my post. You were wrong.
 
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C-south said:
If they’re here and undocumented then how do we know how many that’s actually here? If somehow we do know about them then why aren’t they being shipped out?
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It's why it's called an estimate...

Its why I cite a right leaning source (CIS) as well
 
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InVOLuntary said:
And it had nothing to do with my post. You moved the goal post. I posted about a secure border. You responded to my post. You were wrong.
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Illegal immigration is two parts: Keeping them out and Kicking them out if caught here.

I specifically mentioned/responded not enforcing the rules to kick them out 3x early on.

I stand by my comments that Trump was a failure at Kicking them out and that made his immigration policy as a whole a failure.

If I was JUST arguing just the Keeping them out part, I'd agree with you to a certain extent...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Illegal immigration is two parts: Keeping them out and Kicking them out if caught here.

I specifically mentioned/responded not enforcing the rules to kick them out 3x early on.

I stand by my comments that Trump was a failure at Kicking them out and that made his immigration policy as a whole a failure.

If I was JUST arguing just the Keeping them out part, I'd agree with you to a certain extent...
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That wasn't what we were discussing. We were discussing illegal border crossings and how he was better. As a matter of fact he was better than anyone in this century. Also, wouldn't it be a logical conclusion that if you had more border crossings then you would have more deportations? Oh yeah Obama was the one that put them in cages. The ones that AOC blamed Trump for. 😅
 
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InVOLuntary said:
That wasn't what we were discussing. We were discussing illegal border crossings and how he was better. As a matter of fact he was better than anyone in this century. Also, wouldn't it be a logical conclusion that if you had more border crossings then you would have more deportations? Oh yeah Obama was the one that put them in cages. The ones that AOC blamed Trump for. 😅
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Trump spending 4 years not enforcing existing immigration laws to please his ag and construction base says a lot more about his true stance than being against a pork-laden election year bill...
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BigOrangeMojo said:
It was a problem then. It's a problem now.

Neither party really wants It solved. Ds like the votes. Rs don't wanna piss off ag/construction industry
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I compared it to the budget.

Trump was lousy on immigration (just like he was with the budget). He allowed his ag/construction constituency dictate limited enforcement of existing rules for his term.

Yes, Biden is worse with immigration (just like how he was worse with the budget). Biden sucking more doesn't mean Trump didn't suck...
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It's pretty clear from these posts I wasnt talking about the border aspect but enforcing rules if already here...

I never even mentioned the word "border" here.

The stat that matters is whether the number of undocumented. I think we can both agree that both parts are needed.....
 
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Sudden Impact said:

@InVOLuntary​

I will Make it real easy on you and Keep It current.

Where does Trump fall on the Moral Compass Scale of Corruption? 1-10?
1-least, 10-most

Where does Harris fall on the Moral Compass Scale of Corruption? 1-10?
1-least, 10-most

Both running for President. Leave the Parties out of your assessment.
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I think Harris being inserted without receiving a single vote and then being shielded from the media, while being trumpeted by the media is pretty damn corrupt.
You can say it’s the party, but she is complicit and the very face of the party
 
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LadyVolette said:
I remember at the beginning, we had to keep in close contact with the infectious disease doc and he is pretty much the expert and even he was flying blind.. it was unlike anything anyone had seen before and for anyone to say otherwise.. they are lying.. people made a butt load of mistakes but I really think people did the best they could with the limited information they had.. I still feel like our anger at each other on either side of the aisle is misplaced and should have been/be directed at China.. those effers messed the whole world up when they a) had Third World Labs and b) went traipsing around at Chinese New Year.. a$$holes Edit: directed toward Chi Comm Govt not Asian people 😂 I know how y’all roll 😂
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WTF is "ya'll"? You need some new material
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think Harris being inserted without receiving a single vote and then being shielded from the media, while being trumpeted by the media is pretty damn corrupt.
You can say it’s the party, but she is complicit and the very face of the party
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You seriously have no clue…fishing With assumptions. One candidate cannot keep their mouth shut and the other candidate can’t open their mouth. Debate should be interesting so have patience…Trump really has a problem with authoritative women. Trump in dilemina, he pulled it off with Hillary, his antics will not be as effective this go around. Should be interesting as he cannot run from this debate. Get over the Harris insertion event because crap happens.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Luther is in his a Category he owns of which no one on this board should aspire to be in. He takes a lot of hits but he has good points as well. But he is on a different level and gets out on limb. Goat is steady as I am as well. Neither candidate is qualified IMO to run this country. Both have their own agendas and both are not a good fix for this country. One will over serve this country and one will only serve himself for his profit.

Extreme opposites and this country needs balance.
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wow.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
It's pretty clear from these posts I wasnt talking about the border aspect but enforcing rules if already here...

I never even mentioned the word "border" here.

The stat that matters is whether the number of undocumented. I think we can both agree that both parts are needed.....
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So you admit you deviated from the topic of border security, we'll move on. Doesn't it make sense that if have more border crossings you'd have more deportation?
 
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https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...trump-endorsement-hes-out-of-his-******-mind/

Has been celebrity dipsh!ts seek attention and relevancy film at 11.

Liking RFK more every day. When meathead hates you , you have arrived.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Both parties are full of corruption, I never known that there are levels of corruption. Corruption in Govt has been there for Centuries and it has gotten worse and worse because of the Candidates we elect to Congress and the President. It filters down to the States. Look at Tennessee State Legislatures the past 20 years as an example it filters down.

You will never take the dirt out of politics, nor the corruption on either side.
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It's possible to have an almost corruption free government, but not with our current system.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So you admit you deviated from the topic of border security, we'll move on. Doesn't it make sense that if have more border crossings you'd have more deportation?
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I was never talking about border security and I didnt deviate. I was multiple times talking about enforcing the laws to catch those living here illegally for months or years.

And you might want to go back and look at the chart and compare 2009-2016 and 2017-2019 for your more border crossings = more deportations theory. Not a big change in number of crossings.
 
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