Rich? Convicted of Pesky Felonies? No Problem! Trump Will Pardon You.

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MontyPython said:
"President Donald Trump signed an executive order Tuesday granting a full pardon to Edward DeBartolo Jr., the former owner of the San Francisco 49ers who pleaded guilty to a felony charge for his involvement in a gambling fraud case in Louisiana in the late 1990s, according to White House spokesman Hogan Gidley.

DeBartolo was suspended from the NFL in 1997 and fined $1 million over an extortion case involving then-Louisiana Gov. Edwin W. Edwards. As the star witness, DeBartolo testified that he paid Edwards $400,000 in exchange for his help in securing a riverboat casino license. Edwards was convicted of on racketeering, conspiracy and extortion charges in 2000.

DeBartolo eventually ceded control of the 49ers to his sister, but was still inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2016 for presiding over a team that earned five Super Bowl trophies during the 1980s and ‘90s."


Must be cool to be able to buy "justice", huh? Hurrah for America!
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Just completely ignore the poor drug offenders he also pardoned. I guess that didn’t happen?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Just curious, but this country leads the universe in prison population. Why is more people being set free necessarily a bad thing?
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Should "justice" only belong to the rich and connected? Being chums with Trump or any President for that matter should never be the yardstick for this.
 
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0nelilreb said:
you have to start out with the right blinders on... ummm I mean mind set , Obama did it for all the right reasons , Trump just abuses his power as POTUS .
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Of all the people Obama pardoned which ones do you have a problem with?
 
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Mick said:
Of all the people Obama pardoned which ones do you have a problem with?
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I couldn’t care less . It’s the absurdity of one being ok and the other being for the wrong reasons . If we were going strictly by numbers Trumps got some catching up to do and you guys are going to be screeching a lot .
 
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hog88 said:
I used to think different until an employee got jobbed by the DA. Completely changed my perspective once I saw the system in action.

The entire justice system needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt
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Jobbed how? Can you share the story?
 
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n_huffhines said:
The general public. Licensing freezes out competitors and inflates prices to consumers. Unlike actual victimless crimes, this form of crony capitalism is illegal for good reason.
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So the “general public” is a victim of some white collar crime but being a drug dealer is a “victimless” crime?
 
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Rockvegas said:
Oscar Lopez Rivera
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Yes. with my limited knowledge of this (first I've heard of him), he should still be in jail.
. López Rivera joined the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional Puertorriqueña (FALN), a Marxist-Leninist organization which in the 1970s fought to make Puerto Rico an independent communist nation.[4][8][9] The FALN was involved in more than 100 bombings in New York, Chicago and other cities, including the 1975 bombing at Fraunces Tavern in Manhattan that killed four people.[5] López Rivera was never conclusively linked to the bombings.
 
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Rockvegas said:
Oscar Lopez Rivera
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Ok after reading about him I have changed my mind , Obama released the leader of what was known as the most well organized domestic terrorist group in the U.S. . Here you go Mick , I guess I should look into more of these 1927 people Obama pardoned . Thanks Rock .
 
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MontyPython said:
Should "justice" only belong to the rich and connected? Being chums with Trump or any President for that matter should never be the yardstick for this.
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No but it has always been that way and no POTUS regardless of party has changed it.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Jobbed how? Can you share the story?
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Sure, guy was 19 maybe 20 and got into a fight at a party. Couple days later other guy goes down something in his head from the fight but lives. My employee is arrested and charged with attempted murder, long story short he didn’t have the money for an attorney, didn’t want to lose his job or have his parents find out so when they offered him a deal of felony assault (can’t remember exactly) with no jail time he took it. Everything I heard about the fight was it was a fair fight two big boys and they both gave as good as they got so it was BS for either one to be charged.

That’s the SOP for the DAs office in Sumner County, overcharge those that can’t afford decent representation and threaten them with long jail terms then come back and offer a plea for a felony and no jail time. It‘s criminal how they work so they can pump up their conviction rates and get reelected by the idiots that think that’s an indicator of a DA doing a good job.
 
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hog88 said:
Sure, guy was 19 maybe 20 and got into a fight at a party. Couple days later other guy goes down something in his head from the fight but lives. My employee is arrested and charged with attempted murder, long story short he didn’t have the money for an attorney, didn’t want to lose his job or have his parents find out so when they offered him a deal of felony assault (can’t remember exactly) with no jail time he took it. Everything I heard about the fight was it was a fair fight two big boys and they both gave as good as they got so it was BS for either one to be charged.

That’s the SOP for the DAs office in Sumner County, overcharge those that can’t afford decent representation and threaten them with long jail terms then come back and offer a plea for a felony and no jail time. It‘s criminal how they work so they can pump up their conviction rates and get reelected by the idiots that think that’s an indicator of a DA doing a good job.
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I agree that DAs sometimes pad their stats with stupid plea deals. Sounds like the biggest issues your guy had though was being in the wrong in first place and then trying to keep from his parents? Not smart. In Tennessee for it to be a felony assault he had to have used a weapon during the fight or injured the guy enough to cause death or serious bodily injury. That’s a pretty drastic thing
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I agree that DAs sometimes pad their stats with stupid plea deals. Sounds like the biggest issues your guy had though was being in the wrong in first place and then trying to keep from his parents? Not smart. In Tennessee for it to be a felony assault he had to have used a weapon during the fight or injured the guy enough to cause death or serious bodily injury. That’s a pretty drastic thing
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Like I said, a couple days later he went down and had to go to the hospital.
 
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hog88 said:
Like I said, a couple days later he went down and had to go to the hospital.
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Prob a serious head injury, brain bleed sounds like. That’s why fighting, especially while on drugs and alcohol can be dangerous. One punch to head or head hitting the ground can be fatal.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Prob a serious head injury, brain bleed sounds like. That’s why fighting, especially while on drugs and alcohol can be dangerous. One punch to head or head hitting the ground can be fatal.
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Guy didn’t deserve to be treated that way.
 
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MontyPython said:
Should "justice" only belong to the rich and connected? Being chums with Trump or any President for that matter should never be the yardstick for this.
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That is a separate question. I am fully aware of unequal justice.

But you are sidetracking. Why is setting people free necessarily a bad thing?
 
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