Rick Barnes discussion [merged]

[Orange DNA]

Buzz Peterson. Black curtains at TBA. Y’all piling on Barnes apparently never suffered through that era.

 

[Delmar]

Buzz Peterson. Black curtains at TBA. Y’all piling on Barnes apparently never suffered through that era.

Yep. They could always have Buzz, Wade Houston and Donnie Tidwell back. How soon we forget. And what about ole smut mouth. Lord, what was his name? Help me out. I’m having a senior moment.

 

[VolGee4]

I find it equally astounding the mental gymnastics someone will go through to defend him even though my original statement was merely that losing in the second round with that loaded roster and Durant was Barnes worst year as a head coach. This year if we lose in the second round, it will be a bad job by him too but I'd still rate the year with Durant worse. He's a player that should have won an NCAA title like Anthony did a few years before him in the same circumstances. But Boeheim is a much better coach than Barnes.

Nice response. No facts but just saying that my reasoning is flawed.

Again, you just think one player should have won a title without knowing the circumstances. Zion, Westbrook, Kyrie, Harden, Curry, all never won a title. I guess their coaches are terrible.

Coach K had Tatum, Grayson Allen, and Luke Kennard on a team who lost to South Carolina in the second round. Coach K sucks.

Durant’s roster wasn’t loaded. That’s your mistake. Damion James and Dexter Pittman with those long NBA careers. Lol.

 

[ColinS]

Barnes runs a solid clean program with a winning system. Player development is outstanding. Having said all that, his in game coaching leaves a lot to be desired. This is his weakness for sure and is the reason for his postseason mediocrity.

 

[Delmar]

Yep. They could always have Buzz, Wade Houston and Donnie Tidwell back. How soon we forget. And what about ole smut mouth. Lord, what was his name? Help me out. I’m having a senior moment.

Kevin O’Neill. What a fine representative of the university he was.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

We didn't overpay Barnes

Isn't he the 4th highest paid coach? I'd say that's overpaying for the results. Definitely not saying I want it any other way either.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Isn't he the 4th highest paid coach? I'd say that's overpaying for the results. Definitely not saying I want it any other way either.

It's the market value

 

[lostsheep]

Barnes runs a solid clean program with a winning system. Player development is outstanding. Having said all that, his in game coaching leaves a lot to be desired. This is his weakness for sure and is the reason for his postseason mediocrity.

Couldn't agree more. I struggle to think of a time we've come out of a TO and ran something that indicates he's a high-level X & O guy. Of course, he would argue they had the right play drawn up, but the players just didn't execute.
This being said, he has surprised me this year with his ability to adjust to a more up-tempo style of game.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

Rev Barnes is great in many ways and we should be thankful that we have him. He’s brought stability and national respectability to the program. He’s also brought in elite level talent, and that will continue.

However, he’s not a great “in game” coach. He doesn’t utilize timeouts well. He doesn’t draw up plays well. We don’t typically win games under him where late game strategy is a key factor. He has “it” when it comes to charisma, team building, motivation, and I think we usually come out prepared with a good strategy to start games. But in game adjustments, and crunch time bball IQ he doesn’t have “it.”

So long as he’s our coach going forward, the NCAA tournament bubble (either side of it) will be our floor, and the S16 maybe E8 is our ceiling. Which for Tenn basketball, if you look at the history, that’s really really good.

We’re very fortunate to have him, despite the frustration and let down games.

 

[calban]

Rev Barnes is great in many ways and we should be thankful that we have him. He’s brought stability and national respectability to the program. He’s also brought in elite level talent, and that will continue.

However, he’s not a great “in game” coach. He doesn’t utilize timeouts well. He doesn’t draw up plays well. We don’t typically win games under him where late game strategy is a key factor. He has “it” when it comes to charisma, team building, motivation, and I think we usually come out prepared with a good strategy to start games. But in game adjustments, and crunch time bball IQ he doesn’t have “it.”

So long as he’s our coach going forward, the NCAA tournament bubble (either side of it) will be our floor, and the S16 maybe E8 is our ceiling. Which for Tenn basketball, if you look at the history, that’s really really good.

We’re very fortunate to have him, despite the frustration and let down games.

So hoped he could fix that here.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Archie Miller & Richard Pitino both fired today, 2 guys who got their names throw around on this board quite a bit in the past, Miller more than Pitino. Just shows hiring a coach is never a guarantee thing, not always an upgrade.

 

[onevol74]

I think it is way underapprectiated what Kevin O'Neill did to totally turn around recruiting for Tennessee. I get it that he was a first class jerk, but his recruiting was the only reason Green had any success at all, in my opinion.

I would have liked to see what O'Neill could have done with real SEC level players to coach.

Kevin O’Neil is the reason he never had any real SEC players to coach.

 

[Persian Vol]

Scovi is criminally under-appreciated by our fans. And he’s getting better

He has a decent 3 point shot but his lack of athleticism and inability to drive to the paint really limits our offense. Hence why Jordan Bone was so valuable to that team.

 

[walkenvol]

So hoped he could fix that here.

We have a staff of coaches to go along with CRB. They work together to scout, game planning / game prep, recruiting, etc. I have the impression they also share the in game coaching duties. If plays out of TO’s are not CRB’s strong suit, then let’s pick up an assistant who excels at that.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Archie Miller & Richard Pitino both fired today, 2 guys who got their names throw around on this board quite a bit in the past, Miller more than Pitino. Just shows hiring a coach is never a guarantee thing, not always an upgrade.

We're not getting any of the blue bloods' coaches, so there really is no upgrade to Barnes. When he decides to retire, which I hope isn't for several years, it will be a highly attractive opening and we'll have some great choices. Mostly because of Barnes

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

When will stupid ass Barnes get a real big

 

[1985Vols]

Johnson and springer going to be top 15 picks. And Barnes doesn't let either just play

Barnes is an idiot

 

[Volnbeers]

lol here comes another early exit for rick barnes

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Barnes is an idiot

Wish you’d stfu already about Barnes

 

[1985Vols]

lol here comes another early exit for rick barnes

No surprise. Worst coach in March with 700 wins ever to coach basketball

 

[1985Vols]

Wish you’d stfu already about Barnes

Sorry until he earns his money I’ll keep talking

 

[feathersax]

Barnes is an idiot

Same old, same old...from you.

 

[1985Vols]

Less than 25% from the field. Geez.

You gotta love Barnes offense. Not sure what’s worse, his offensive scheme or Pruitts

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Sorry until he earns his money I’ll keep talking

We know.

You’ve told us 1,000 times already

 

[Border Vol]

Sorry until he earns his money I’ll keep talking

This is as good as the Tennessee men's basketball program will do most seasons. We need to do like i do and just be happy to make the NCAA Tournament.