Ridiculous right wing fringe, Act I, Scene I

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#26
BigPapaVol said:
when has either fringe mattered beyond getting Obama elected? Takes a catastrophic predecessor to make the fringes matter. So far, Obama is so far left that he's allowing the GS crowd a voice. He keeps going, you can't complain that the right nutties are in it.
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I'm not complaining. It's to my advantage that the right fractures into moderate and extreme factions. *shrug*
 
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VolInMn said:
I'm not complaining. It's to my advantage that the right fractures into moderate and extreme factions. *shrug*
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fracture? every political season people fret about one of the two political parties fracturing. nothing to see here, move along. it may be fun for political commentators to muse about such things but in reality they never live up to the hype.
 
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I really wish we would return to the days that political disagreements were settled with fist fights on the house floor. It's much more honest.
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volinbham said:
fracture? every political season people fret about one of the two political parties fracturing. nothing to see here, move along. it may be fun for political commentators to muse about such things but in reality they never live up to the hype.
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Maybe they can't see that Obama is as galvanizing, or even moreso, as Bush was.
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#32
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droski said:
who are the rightwing democrats? do any exist?
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Oh, they usually come out in droves about two months before their next election cycle. That's when you see them doing their obligatory rounds at a random church, NASCAR event, or eating at a diner. You know, hanging amongst us poor common folks who require others to tell us how to think.

Of course, they do this to appear to represent the values and beliefs of most Americans, simply to be elected. They then quickly revert.

Rinse, repeat.
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#33
To follow up, the polls show Rubio crushing Crist by 30 points in the Republican primary. But, if Crist runs as an independent versus Rubio and the Democratic nominee in the general election, current polls show Crist winning by a few percentage points.

Speculation is that he is going to withdraw from the Republican race and run as in independent. And it has the GOP absolutely mortified because what it would mean is that the running of a Tea Part darling might well cost them the seat.

There is, I suspect, some genuine fear with the GOP leadership that the Tea Party might be so strong as to break the party in two. We could have a real third party down the line, here, with the GOP caught in the middle.

You could have Obama representing the ideal of the Democrats (minorities, social programs and spending, lower class interests), the Tea Party (low taxes and religious-dirven social policy)m, and the GOP (an amalgamation of centrists focused primarily on business interests).
 
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If it came to pass, I might find myself a member of the GOP (assuming they shed their hypocritical nonsense about social policy).

Sadly, all the militia folks would be Tea Party members. So there goes the NRA.
 
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droski said:
right. we all know how you love individual responsibility.
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Why do you think I don't?

When you use the phrase "personal responsibility," you conveniently fail to describe the level of it you advocate. I mean, do you think every person should be completely on their own in everything? Or just in part?


utvolpj said:
and the undecided, moderate LG returns
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I still maintain I might have voted for McCain. If he ran again, on the same platform as last time, I might vote for him in 2012.

But he won't. He can't. The Tea Partiers won't let him.


CountVolcula said:
He must be defending a middle-class, tax paying American this week
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Irrelevant to my personal views.
 
#41
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volinbham said:
Where do you see that in the TP movement?

Oh that's right, you know what they "really" believe. :eek:k:
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You cannot seriously claim that religion is not a significant factor in the TP. Look at the rhetoric of Palin and the others.
 
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#42
lawgator1 said:
Why do you think I don't?

When you use the phrase "personal responsibility," you conveniently fail to describe the level of it you advocate. I mean, do you think every person should be completely on their own in everything? Or just in part?





I still maintain I might have voted for McCain. If he ran again, on the same platform as last time, I might vote for him in 2012.

But he won't. He can't. The Tea Partiers won't let him.




Irrelevant to my personal views.
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mccain is a democrat
 
#43
#43
lawgator1 said:
You cannot seriously claim that religion is not a significant factor in the TP. Look at the rhetoric of Palin and the others.
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Hell, Obama used religious rhetoric.

The TP platform (if you can call it that) is not based around religious social conservatism. That is why it has resonance with a significant number of independents and even Dems.
 
#45
#45
lawgator1 said:
Well, leave it to the loons who claim they are defending the Constitution to do something blatantly unconstitutional -- and to make fools of themselves to score cheap political points they don't need in the process.

Presidential 'birther bill' advances in state House


Hope someone on the right has the sense to derail this nonsense. McCain showed a glimpse of intellectual honesty when he told that old lady that no, Obama isn't an "A-rab."

You know, even if the GOP re-takes the House this year, given who they will owe for that power the one thing you can count on is that they'll screw it up in about a month.
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lawgator1 said:
The folks now driving the Republican bus, the Tea Party folks, the birthers, etc., have zero tolerance for anyone withing their party who has the slightest bipartisan sense to them. That's why you see the likes of McCain or even Bohner, who have at times shown some desire to work with the other side, are now running for the hills on the far right.
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Tea Partiers are controlling the GOP? Link? :blink:
 
#47
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lawgator1 said:
You cannot seriously claim that religion is not a significant factor in the TP. Look at the rhetoric of Palin and the others.
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Perhaps you, the notable opponent of and outsider to the Tea Party, are neither the best nor most objectively qualified person to describe what is or is not a, "significant factor" in their movement.

Simply, you're talking shiz. And nonsensical shiz at that, which is somehow far greater than your normal shiz talking.
 
#48
#48
lawgator1 said:
I still maintain I might have voted for McCain. If he ran again, on the same platform as last time, I might vote for him in 2012.

But he won't. He can't. The Tea Partiers won't let him.
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You do realize that most of what you're saying is all fear-based, right?

You could have simply said the following, and saved us all a lot of trouble,"I fear that the Tea Party is gaining momentum, and will eventually both energize and galvanize the now slumbering conservative right. Once done, the Democrats will have absolutely no chance of winning a national election, given that such first and necessarily requires widespread voter apathy."

Your incessant concern with this group is puzzling, considering you think that they can do little more than destroy the GOP.
 
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#49
LG must have received high marks for his hyperbole skills while at UF Law.
 
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Tenacious D said:
Perhaps you, the notable opponent of and outsider to the Tea Party, are neither the best nor most objectively qualified person to describe what is or is not a, "significant factor" in their movement.

Simply, you're talking shiz. And nonsensical shiz at that, which is somehow far greater than your normal shiz talking.
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Palin invokes (and compares herself to) God to defend crib notes on her hand: Sarah Palin Invokes God in Defending Notes on her Palm - The Note


Palin claims, mistakenly of course, that the Founding Fathers opposed spearation of church and state: Palin: Chuch, State Shouldn't Be Separate | The Atlantic Wire


Yeah, clearly I am the one "talking shiz."
 
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