Right wing loons who just said Obama is not doing enough are about to say he's doing

#51
#51
Out of curosity, has anyone seen sales data from BP in the USA since this started? I'd be interested in seeing how much this has hurt their sales quantifably.
 
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#53
Out of curosity, has anyone seen sales data from BP in the USA since this started? I'd be interested in seeing how much this has hurt their sales quantifably.

All I know is their stocks were at 60+ halfway through April and now they're barely scraping 35.
 
#54
#54
Just heard BP stock dropped 15% today, steepest yet ~ $20 Bil in shareholder value.
 
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#55
Happens once in a blue moon... but I agree with mostly everything James Carville said about Obama's lack of involvement and initiative regarding this issue. This should have been his opportunity to shine and most likely raise his approval ratings (leaders excel during times of crisis), but instead it's become another negative where he has displayed little to no true leadership abilities.
 
#56
#56
I think it's a combination of multiple factors... the primary probably being BP's Net Income figure from last fiscal year.

For me, individually, it's mistrust. BP had a definite arrogance in the early stages as if they thought they weren't accountable and liable for their actions. Some statements from a bumbling PR department gave little headway to trusting them to pay every cent to every individual affected financially by this... not to mention the long-term effects this will have on the fishing/tourism industries that they will, more than likely, never pay a cent for.


Also, I edited my comment to reflect your edit.

well in reality they aren't 100% to blame. transocean was the rig operator. i agree from a public relations point of view they weren't perfect. they've already started paying fishermen for lost income.

and i'm not sure how their net income figure is relavant. a very small % of that net income came from that rig.
 
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#59
I opted for a Shell station over a BP station today.

I haven't bought BP but one time since the spill. I only did then because I was low and had no other option. I also try not to use Cheveron either because of the Venezuala connection.
 
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#60
I haven't bought BP but one time since the spill. I only did then because I was low and had no other option. I also try not to use Cheveron either because of the Venezuala connection.

Didn't know Chevron was Venezuela connected - thought that was CITGO
 
#61
#61
Didn't know Chevron was Venezuela connected - thought that was CITGO

Your right. I don't buy other than Texaco really, but I haven't bought Cheveron, Citgo, and now BP for awhile. For some reason I find Texaco to be a couple cents cheaper than Cheveron.
 
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#62
Where does Pilot get it's gas?

And is Shell a fine one?


It was so much easier to buy gas in Alaska. They have state chains that you know where it's coming from.
 
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#65
I don't think that I would have thought twice about stopping at a BP station, but I haven't found myself in the situation to buy gas in the last month or so, so I don't really know....
 
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#66
Happens once in a blue moon... but I agree with mostly everything James Carville said about Obama's lack of involvement and initiative regarding this issue. This should have been his opportunity to shine and most likely raise his approval ratings (leaders excel during times of crisis), but instead it's become another negative where he has displayed little to no true leadership abilities.

This.
 
#67
#67
I opted for a Shell station over a BP station today.

The only place I ever buy BP is in my hometown because it is the cheapest. Headed there this weekend and I guess I will head over to the Texaco instead.

I typically fill up with Exxon because I usually get the best mileage in my cars from there.
 
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#68
I don't really have anything to add.

I just wanted to note that I was reading this thread, then I looked up to see an ad for Sara Palin 2012. It kind of scared me.....
 
#69
#69
well in reality they aren't 100% to blame. transocean was the rig operator. i agree from a public relations point of view they weren't perfect. they've already started paying fishermen for lost income.

and i'm not sure how their net income figure is relavant. a very small % of that net income came from that rig.

That rig has nothing to do with their net income. As far as I know it hadn't even started pulling oil out. Regardless there is a huge culture of mistrust especially towards "Big Oil" at current because of quickly rising gas prices combined with Net Incomes in the tens of billions among the major companies.

Didn't know Chevron was Venezuela connected - thought that was CITGO

You are correct... as far as ownership with Citgo is concerned. Chevron does perform offshore drilling in Venezuela though.

Where does Pilot get it's gas?

And is Shell a fine one?

No idea in the least where Pilot sources it's petroleum from. Shell is a Dutch corporation, if that means anything to you.
 
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#70
I don't think that I would have thought twice about stopping at a BP station, but I haven't found myself in the situation to buy gas in the last month or so, so I don't really know....

most oil companies don't actually own their stations so the person you are hurting is the guy who owns the rights to the bp station, not bp themselves.
 
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#71
Regardless there is a huge culture of mistrust especially towards "Big Oil" at current because of quickly rising gas prices combined with Net Incomes in the tens of billions among the major companies..

why don't people complain about the net income of apple of billions particurally considering apples products have a margin around 35% and oil companies margins run well under 5%?
 
#72
#72
why don't people complain about the net income of apple of billions particurally considering apples products have a margin around 35% and oil companies margins run well under 5%?

Because people are fairly daft. The reason for Apple's success completely baffles me.
 
#73
#73
Considering some of the posts made by the OP I find it very ironic that he can call anyone a loon...
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