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evillawyer said:
Were there any posts in the thread last night from the Biden administration? Don't think there were. There were some from the Trump administration though. So if wanna advance that beef -- which I still don't think is a great argument because the government can make requests just as much as a private actor -- you're barking up the wrong side of the tree.
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OK, so it happened under Trump. Still doesn't explain how it isn't a 1A violation?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
When the FBI tells you specifically to censor something through private emails, that should be viewed in a different light than Trump flippantly saying "don't print that" in an off the cuff presser. He still shouldn't say that (unless in jest). But it seems a bit more nefarious when it is being done by an alphabet agency behind the scenes.
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Who said "off the cuff presser" and why is it different exactly? Trump had the power of the FBI behind him.

Do you have the emails?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Who said "off the cuff presser" and why is it different exactly? Trump had the power of the FBI behind him.

Do you have the emails?
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I don't know what event specifically you were referring to. I assumed it was Trump saying don't print that in a presser because I thought I remembered him saying that or something similar in a presser
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I don't know what event specifically you were referring to. I assumed it was Trump saying don't print that in a presser because I thought I remembered him saying that or something similar in a presser
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It was a hypothetical to establish an agreement on what constitutes a threat
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Receipts?
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Here is Trump floating the idea of revoking FCC licenses over political fairness, which is not what the FCC does.



Now if you got Biden and dems saying "someone oughtta look into section 230", or something along those lines, then I'd agree it is a threat and 1a issue.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The most important, scary and damaging public information in recent American history.
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Still waiting for you to use your big boys words and identify the factual revelation that was such a big deal. Instead, I just see vacuous, factually-devoid words like "important, scary and damaging" coming from you. Just identify the big reveal, in your own words.
 
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evillawyer said:
Still waiting for you to use your big boys words and identify the factual revelation that was such a big deal. Instead, I just see vacuous, factually-devoid words like "important, scary and damaging" coming from you. Just identify the big reveal, in your own words.
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sabulous pudendum (sounds like you have a)
 
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n_huffhines said:
So Elon Musk burns Apple twice from two different angles, and then when Apple threatens to remove Twitter from the Apple store, Musk has no idea why they would do that...

Can we all agree the guy is really smart in certain ways and very stupid in others? Come on, now.
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He's an eccentric wild card with unknown motive beyond his stated intention to return Twitter to a public square forum in which everyone is free to have their sensibilities offended, and whether it makes money is secondary, if at all. IF that is true, I'm encouraged but can't say that I trust or distrust him to do so; we'll have to see what he actually does. He might create an alternative to the IOS/Android duopoly which has become - via parents Apple and Google - an anticompetitive force serving as Praetorian guard for the political left.

Again, you seem most comfortable with the illiberal left who oppose free speech, market systems, etc - all that 'libertarian' stuff otherwise known as classical liberalism - Huff. That Apple would even threaten to remove the world's largest(?) social media app from it's store reveals them for who they are. It's not even that they're just technocrats who think you're too stupid to sort information for yourself, but that they're globalist autocrats imposing a leftist world view onto you. The EU is also threatening to ban Twitter. Our WH coerces and colludes with media to censor speech and effect election outcomes; in clear-headed times we termed that fascism and authoritarianism. WEF has clear aspirations of ending the idea of sovereign nations, which the anarcho libertarians 'stupidly' embrace. These things are not occurring in coincidental vacuums.

Whatever, I'm reluctant to label the globe's richest guy 'very stupid' while spending inordinate amounts of time posting on obscure forums. Noting, yet again, you have a penchant for siding against those more closely aligned with liberalism.
 
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sooooo.... What we have, is Rupert Murdoch (criminal, should listed as a double agent) attempted a smear campaign during an election season, that had nothing to do with nothing, but probably came from frumpy pants (mob boss cult leader). And the twits didn't know how to handle it (they're just kids really), but knew it was a grift, and decided to go with caution, for a number of reasons (not the least of which were dick pics). Now musk ( a power hungry narcissist super criminal) tries to use it as a distraction from real stories (most of which are about frumpy pants and his cult going down). Mix in the russians, and voila.

Murdoch needs to be investigated.

Elon Musk’s promised Twitter exposé on the Hunter Biden story is a flop that doxxed multiple people
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
I don't think musk, or some of the rest of you, have a very good understanding of the first amendment. You can say what ever the hell you want to say. There is nothing that stops you from saying what you want.

And, we have a right to turn you off and pull advertising dollars for it. You bare the consequences of what you say. If it's evil and vile ish, the rest of us will turn you off.

Pretty simple.
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Twitter and Facebook, etc. grew to gargantuan proportion under government regulatory protection while selling themselves as public square, free speech forums. Now they collude with the left and this WH administration to predetermine elections by shuttering information and dissenting ideas, overwhelmingly conservative. Do you not see the tension between that and former Twitter executives using Dem politician talking points that the 1A is not absolute, even as they yell 'but we're private!", to justify their censorship - ? This is why people are angry; they were sold a bill of goods by tech/media whom we allow government protections of, in the interest of serving an agnostic public good. Now they have 'fk you' money and influence and have decided half the country will be amplified and the other gagged, as they see fit.

As I noted in another post, this coercion and collusion are what we'd rightly call fascism and authoritarianism.
If both sides of the coin were allowed to speak, that is.
 
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The first amendment is about government regulating free speech, and frumpy was the government. 🫢

and, musk is loooooong past being a business man of any sorts. He had a half trillion in the bank, and got bored, so he turned to power. He is addicted to power, and self absorbed. in bed with the wrong people, and all his business ventures are going belly up, with the exception of one (rocket business) that has no real competitors and funded by the GOV, (not for long).

This is all sounding very frumpyism to me.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
The first amendment is about government regulating free speech, and frumpy was the government. 🫢

and, musk is loooooong past being a business man of any sorts. He had a half trillion in the bank, and got bored, so he turned to power. He is addicted to power, and self absorbed. in bed with the wrong people, and all his business ventures are going belly up, with the exception of one (rocket business) that has no real competitors and funded by the GOV, (not for long).

This is all sounding very frumpyism to me.
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Missed the point a second time in a row.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Here is Trump floating the idea of revoking FCC licenses over political fairness, which is not what the FCC does.



Now if you got Biden and dems saying "someone oughtta look into section 230", or something along those lines, then I'd agree it is a threat and 1a issue.
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I would agree with you on both, but only if any action was actually considered.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
The first amendment is about government regulating free speech, and frumpy was the government. 🫢

and, musk is loooooong past being a business man of any sorts. He had a half trillion in the bank, and got bored, so he turned to power. He is addicted to power, and self absorbed. in bed with the wrong people, and all his business ventures are going belly up, with the exception of one (rocket business) that has no real competitors and funded by the GOV, (not for long).

This is all sounding very frumpyism to me.
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Do you have any mysterious flat spots on your head?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Here is Trump floating the idea of revoking FCC licenses over political fairness, which is not what the FCC does.



Now if you got Biden and dems saying "someone oughtta look into section 230", or something along those lines, then I'd agree it is a threat and 1a issue.
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So, he sees the problem accurately but not the solution, whereas Dems and the left tell us 'nothing to see here'.
See? - there's a fundamentally correct position and a fundamentally incorrect one.
 
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evillawyer said:
Still waiting for you to use your big boys words and identify the factual revelation that was such a big deal. Instead, I just see vacuous, factually-devoid words like "important, scary and damaging" coming from you. Just identify the big reveal, in your own words.
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I'm just seeing this message and as I've pointed out I'm still going through the grimey details.
 
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