RIP Twitter

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volinbham said:
so much to unpack.

"harmful to individuals within a society" wonderfully vague - no definition of harm, no assessment of how many individuals. classic

"reasonable for society to limit" more wonderful vagueness - limit could mean anything

So when Fauci told people masks do not work it was a known lie (which he openly admitted later). Assuming more masking would have prevented some Covid cases at the early stages of the pandemic, Fauci's known lie was harmful to individuals within society.

Should society have limited Fauci's ability to spread that lie?
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Of course it's vague, it has to be.
The expectation that many of you have of things being black or white is beyond me.
It's like where is the line between permissible disciple of your child and child abuse?
Where is the line between impaired driving and non-impaired driving?
Where is the line between public decency and indecency?

Under the circumstances, Fauci's lie should not have been limited.
 
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utvolpj said:
What's crazy about believing space travel should happen? Being wary of AI? Or maybe it was the ubi that scared you?

One of the things listed in your article was a freaking April fool's joke!
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we've escalated from some concerning theories to Musk is a loon.

funny how much misinformation is being spread by someone concerned that Musk will allow misinformation to finally exist on Twitter
 
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luthervol said:
Of course it's vague, it has to be.
The expectation that many of you have of things being black or white is beyond me.
It's like where is the line between permissible disciple of your child and child abuse?
Where is the line between impaired driving and non-impaired driving?
Where is the line between public decency and indecency?

Under the circumstances, Fauci's lie should not have been limited.
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So give me an example of a “lie” tweet that should result in banning a user
 
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joevol33 said:
I honestly don't know, but he sure seems upset that there may be a different opinion allowed than his now. That's my point on anything, I don't think anyone should be censored for their opinions, whether I agree or not. You've never seen me talk about canceling anything, or boycotting. You've also never seen me fuss about ball players kneeling, despite how I feel, they have the right. Some people are all for rights, as long as they believe the same way, both sides. A few are just going overboard with their tantrums, and knowing their posting history, it's hypocrisy, and funny.
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In a vacuum, people shouldn't be censored for their opinions but that doesn't mean that people on Twitter expressing opinions shouldn't be censored for breaking terms of service. That's what a lot of this is. They have to have moderation. They cannot have unfettered free speech. If free speech becomes so toxic that Twitter starts losing $, why shouldn't they censor people? If free speech is so toxic that it diminishes discourse on Twitter, why shouldn't they censor people?

Twitter will still censor people expressing opinions. This isn't the end of that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
In a vacuum, people shouldn't be censored for their opinions but that doesn't mean that people on Twitter expressing opinions shouldn't be censored for breaking terms of service. That's what a lot of this is. They have to have moderation. They cannot have unfettered free speech. If free speech becomes so toxic that Twitter starts losing $, why shouldn't they censor people? If free speech is so toxic that it diminishes discourse on Twitter, why shouldn't they censor people?
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How do you determine who to censor?
 
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n_huffhines said:
In a vacuum, people shouldn't be censored for their opinions but that doesn't mean that people on Twitter expressing opinions shouldn't be censored for breaking terms of service. That's what a lot of this is. They have to have moderation. They cannot have unfettered free speech. If free speech becomes so toxic that Twitter starts losing $, why shouldn't they be able to censor people? If free speech is so toxic that it diminishes discourse on Twitter, why shouldn't they censor people?
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Give me examples of “toxic” free speech. Outside of spam or threats/harrassment what speech should be banned in your opinion
 
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luthervol said:
Of course it's vague, it has to be.
The expectation that many of you have of things being black or white is beyond me.
It's like where is the line between permissible disciple of your child and child abuse?
Where is the line between impaired driving and non-impaired driving?
Where is the line between public decency and indecency?

Under the circumstances, Fauci's lie should not have been limited.
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It is not my expectation that it be black and white - it is the assertion of people like Obama who want to limit expression that it is black and white. Those who (like you expressed) that opinions are subject to objective truth verification are suggesting black and white.

Your assessment about Fauci not violating your rule demonstrates the subjectivity of "harm" and "lies" assessment. It is exactly why the government shouldn't be the arbiter.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
hr 1581 signed by Obama officially established a ministry of truth in America. Obama ushered in fact checkers often used to counter a narrative that is opposing what the federal governments stance are. He also had his own website for reporting anti Obama sentiments both on public media and private media. He used the info webs for his personal get even agenda and now he thinks it’s bad? He’s a hypocrite.
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hr 1581 does what???????

H.R.1581 - Build America’s Libraries Act
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Are We Living in a Computer Simulation? Elon Musk Thinks So.

Elon Musk's out-of-the-world beliefs and theories

Elon Musk Is Crazy: 10 Outrageous Comments Made By The Tesla & SpaceX CEO

The 16 most bizarre things Elon Musk has said he believes

* I could literally post a hundred of these if you want me to.
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Much of what he says is taken literally or at face value. Idk, but much of what he says I take as a subtle or subliminal analogy to the result of the manipulation aspect of current day technology/media/social media platforms. The knee jerk reactionaries run with the first thing out of his mouth without going deeper. He doesn’t spend a lot of time explaining where he’s coming from when he throws out his theories on these things or it takes an unpredictable or stranger path sometimes when he does. That’s quite likely attributable to his ASD/Aspberger’s which isn’t uncommon for those with it. Michael Bury made a fortune betting against the housing market prior to the financial crisis, same way. No one took the time to understand him, were still quite in awe of and perplexed by him at the same time. They didn’t know quite what to make of him either. Guys like this are on a different plane, but Elon is a game changer if nothing else.
 
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utvolpj said:
If Elon says we're living in a sim then I'm likely going to listen to him over you or just about anyone else you choose to quote
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That's fine ... You can be a nut too. Let's just not have any doubt that he did say it. There is no "if".

See the YouTube video in post # 1,388.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Are We Living in a Computer Simulation? Elon Musk Thinks So.

Elon Musk's out-of-the-world beliefs and theories

Elon Musk Is Crazy: 10 Outrageous Comments Made By The Tesla & SpaceX CEO

The 16 most bizarre things Elon Musk has said he believes

* I could literally post a hundred of these if you want me to.
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A sim is plausible. It's really not that bizarre of a belief. I read half of the "16 most bizarre" and I'm not seeing the problem here. I mean, he's talking about direct democracy on Mars. He's a visionary. Is this supposed to cast aspersions on him? Does that unsettle you? Seriously, WTF. We know he thinks outside the box. That's what makes him great.
 
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n_huffhines said:
A sim is plausible. It's really not that bizarre of a belief. I read half of the "16 most bizarre" and I'm not seeing the problem here. I mean, he's talking about direct democracy on Mars. He's a visionary. Is this supposed to cast aspersions on him? Does that unsettle you? Seriously, WTF. We know he thinks outside the box. That's what makes him great.
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LOL. Sure...
 
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