RIP Twitter

[Rickyvol77]

What was your question? I have several people replying to me at once. I'm popular today.

Why does it matter what musk believes or does if it doesn’t affect your Twitter usage enough that you deleted your account just because he now owns it

 

[luthervol]

Biden - “getting the vaccine will prevent you from getting Covid”.
banworthy

Of course not.

 

[Rickyvol77]

more like this................
At 3:45 p.m., Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller suggested to Meadows and Trump aide Dan Scavino that Trump should tweet: "Call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets from POTUS: 1) Bad apples, likely ANTIFA or other crazed leftists, infiltrated today s peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote count.

Trump's allies in Congress appeared to get the message. At 3:52 p.m., Greene told Meadows: "Mark we don't think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters."

Five minutes later, Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, texted Meadows: "Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent."

That was all a known lie, but there were nuts on here repeating it as truth. Probably some of the nuttiest still believe it to be true.

Ok and so what ? There are nuts like Joy Reid and Talcum x that believe white people are purposefully poisoning black children on purpose using kool aid. They still shouldn’t be banned from saying it

 

[Rickyvol77]

Of course not.

Why. It’s false information.

 

[McDad]

I am surprised Elon is such a polarizing person. I had no idea. And after reading this thread, I am still not sure why he is so polarizing.

 

[volinbham]

more like this................
At 3:45 p.m., Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller suggested to Meadows and Trump aide Dan Scavino that Trump should tweet: "Call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets from POTUS: 1) Bad apples, likely ANTIFA or other crazed leftists, infiltrated today s peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote count.

Trump's allies in Congress appeared to get the message. At 3:52 p.m., Greene told Meadows: "Mark we don't think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters."

Five minutes later, Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, texted Meadows: "Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent."

That was all a known lie, but there were nuts on here repeating it as truth. Probably some of the nuttiest still believe it to be true.

Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation. That got widespread distribution and some here bought in.

Known lie; particularly from Joe Biden.

Ban worthy I reckon.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I am surprised Elon is such a polarizing person. I had no idea. And after reading this thread, I am still not sure why he is so polarizing.

He’s not. It’s just typical leftist hypocrisy and being told what to think by their handlers

 

[Rickyvol77]

more like this................
At 3:45 p.m., Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller suggested to Meadows and Trump aide Dan Scavino that Trump should tweet: "Call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets from POTUS: 1) Bad apples, likely ANTIFA or other crazed leftists, infiltrated today s peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote count.

Trump's allies in Congress appeared to get the message. At 3:52 p.m., Greene told Meadows: "Mark we don't think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters."

Five minutes later, Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, texted Meadows: "Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent."

That was all a known lie, but there were nuts on here repeating it as truth. Probably some of the nuttiest still believe it to be true.

Stacey abrams saying the GA election was stolen from the voters by domestic terrorists and I won’t concede because of this theft. We need to take the fight back to them. False information. And inciting a riot?

Or the BLM stating Michael brown was killed because of hands up don’t shoot and racism by police which didn’t happen. We need to take it to the streets. False information and inciting riots

There were some known nuts repeating this junk too

 

[luthervol]

Obama Quietly Signs “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act”
apologies, HR 1518

It was first introduced by Portman - a republican senator.
And it seems pretty justifiable:
“These countries spend vast sums of money on advanced broadcast and digital media capabilities, targeted campaigns, funding of foreign political movements, and other efforts to influence key audiences and populations,” Portman explained, adding that while the U.S. spends a relatively small amount on its Voice of America, the Kremlin provides enormous funding for its news organization, RT.

“Surprisingly,” Portman continued, “there is currently no single U.S. governmental agency or department charged with the national level development, integration and synchronization of whole-of-government strategies to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation.”

 

[luthervol]

Ok and so what ? There are nuts like Joy Reid and Talcum x that believe white people are purposefully poisoning black children on purpose using kool aid. They still shouldn’t be banned from saying it

Should a business be forced to allow them to say it on their privately owned platform?

 

[luthervol]

Why. It’s false information.

He corrected it.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Should a business be forced to allow them to say it on their privately owned platform?

No but the point is that YOUR stated position was that false information or “inciting riots” was absolutely bannable material but then stated Biden saying something false isn’t and completely ignored the Stacey Abrams and BLM posts which also did exactly what you suggested was wrong. At least be consistent if you are going to be wrong

 

[BowlBrother85]

back to the original point - why is this concerning? (your post that started this discussion)

Let me approach it this way :

Social media platforms are fertile ground for malicious lies to flourish in the form of politically-based conspiracy theories, which accuse innocent people, such as James Alefantis (owner of the Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria in DC), of running a business which serves as a front for a Satan worshipping cabal and child sex trafficking ring. This nearly led to a tragedy when a nut named Edgarr Madison Welch shot up his restaurant in 2016. Thankfully, no one was injured.

It seems like Musk, would believe just about anything, with very little proof. This is why I would be concerned about him owning Twitter. "PizzaGate" should not be protected by the 1st Amendment. It should never be considered free speech to slander someone... but how does Musk feel about this? I would be interested to know.

 

[luthervol]

Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation. That got widespread distribution and some here bought in.

Known lie; particularly from Joe Biden.

Ban worthy I reckon.

I think everybody here said publicize anything that was found on the laptop.

 

[Grand Vol]

I have read every damn one ... and I'm about to post several f***ing more.

So... let's go from the top:

Musk has said he wants to begin sending humans to Mars by 2024.

Okay, that's nutty? Why?

"I think most likely the form of government of Mars would be a direct democracy, not representative," he said during the Code conference in 2016. "So it would be people voting directly on issues. And I think that's probably better because the potential for democracy is substantially diminished."

And? Is that crazy to say and explain why?

And he isn't merely interested in people surviving on Mars. He wants a thriving city to exist.

Given that he wants to send people there, might as well stay, right?

But Musk also said anyone who goes on the first journey to Mars should be "prepared to die."

The Apollo Astronauts also knew there was a good chance of failure despite everything that was done to ensure their survival. They were prepared to die. And context matter in Elon's quote:

"The first journey to Mars is going to be really very dangerous," he said in 2016. "The risk of fatality will be high. There's just no way around it."

And next...

If Mars doesn't pique your interest, you could still take a ride in a SpaceX rocket to travel around the world.

Which has more or less been the thought since the 1950s and 60s when we thought rocket travel would become more commonplace.

The Tesla CEO also said humans were "already a cyborg."

Musk said our ability to have a digital presence through email and social media gives us "superpowers" like a cyborg.
"You have more power than the president of the United States had 20 years ago," he said in 2016. "You can answer any question, you can video conference with anyone, anywhere. You can send messages to millions of people instantly. Just do incredible things."

Well... that's true.

In fact, Musk has said AI could be our "biggest existential threat."

Yeah, he's not the first person to suggest that. Stephen Hawking suggested the same thing and I didn't see you going batshit bonkers over it.

Though he's also funded a startup, Neuralink, that wants to implant chips into people's brains to create a "brain-computer" interface.

Something that's been funded by quite a few places actually.

So, again, why is he crazy?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Sylvester Smith just committed notification.

 

[luthervol]

Stacey abrams saying the GA election was stolen from the voters by domestic terrorists and I won’t concede because of this theft. We need to take the fight back to them. False information. And inciting a riot?

Or the BLM stating Michael brown was killed because of hands up don’t shoot and racism by police which didn’t happen. We need to take it to the streets. False information and inciting riots

There were some known nuts repeating this junk too

I don't have any problem with someone not allowing them to say those things on their privately owned platforms.

 

[volinbham]

Should a business be forced to allow them to say it on their privately owned platform?

see now you've changed the discussion from "society" regulating expression to a private company. I think virtually all here think Twitter had the right ban/disallow certain expression

however Obama and you appear to be advocating a role for government in deciding what should be allowed.

 

[Rickyvol77]

He corrected it.

biden has made several false information posts even back in the campaign such as being arrested in civil rights movement that even CNN proved was false. Again you are selective if you don’t believe that he and Abrams and several BLM and liberal activists should also be banned

 

[Rickyvol77]

I don't have any problem with someone not allowing them to say those things on their privately owned platforms.

Was Stacey Abrams wrong for her statements on the ga election and should take them back as they were dangerous for our electoral process?

 

[volinbham]

Let me approach it this way :

Social media platforms are fertile ground for malicious lies to flourish in the form of politically-based conspiracy theories, which accuse innocent people, such as James Alefantis (owner of the Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria in DC), of running a business which serves as a front for a Satan worshipping cabal and child sex trafficking ring. This nearly led to a tragedy when a nut named Edgarr Madison Welch shot up his restaurant in 2016. Thankfully, no one was injured.

It seems like Musk, would believe just about anything, with very little proof. This is why I would be concerned about him owning Twitter. "PizzaGate" should not be protected by the 1st Amendment. It should never be considered free speech to slander someone... but how does Musk feel about this? I would be interested to know.

this is a major stretch

 

[DC_Vol]

I am surprised Elon is such a polarizing person. I had no idea. And after reading this thread, I am still not sure why he is so polarizing.

This Twitter episode is going to be a fascinating case study in exactly what social media has helped do to the country. It should open a lot of people’s eyes. I cannot think of anything fundamentally shifting along a political divide that touches this many people. People are more invested in Twitter than they were the healthcare debate. It’s amazing to see.

 

[Rickyvol77]

see now you've changed the discussion from "society" regulating expression to a private company. I think virtually all here think Twitter had the right ban/disallow certain expression

however Obama and you appear to be advocating a role for government in deciding what should be allowed.

Typical Luther. Realizes his hypocrisy and quickly tries to shift the discussion lol

 

[Rickyvol77]

Let me approach it this way :

Social media platforms are fertile ground for malicious lies to flourish in the form of politically-based conspiracy theories, which accuse innocent people, such as James Alefantis (owner of the Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria in DC), of running a business which serves as a front for a Satan worshipping cabal and child sex trafficking ring. This nearly led to a tragedy when a nut named Edgarr Madison Welch shot up his restaurant in 2016. Thankfully, no one was injured.

It seems like Musk, would believe just about anything, with very little proof. This is why I would be concerned about him owning Twitter. "PizzaGate" should not be protected by the 1st Amendment. It should never be considered free speech to slander someone... but how does Musk feel about this? I would be interested to know.

So you believe that any possible conspiracy theory from pizza gate to aliens to trump pee tape to lies about police brutality to Jessie smollett to Stacey Abrams saying the GA election was rigged to anything should never be discussed on social media and all who discuss these items should be banned

Also slander is already illegal. That’s not what that is.

 

[BowlBrother85]

this is a major stretch

I see it as a potential problem. A "PizzaGate" style conspiracy theory - more than likely started by far-right conservatives - will definitely be brought to Twitter at some point in the next 2 years ... will it be allowed to accuse innocent people of being child molesters or will it become banned subject matter? It's not as far fetched a belief as "we are sims".