Rod Wilks stands out at Elite Camp..............

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hatvol96 said:
Alvin Harper won multiple Super Bowl rings and made big plays in the playoffs.
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Cedric made some big plays in the playoffs too. So are you saying that if Cedric Wilson has a couple 600 yard recieving seasons and a few big plays in the playoffs that he is relavent?
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Cedric made some big plays in the playoffs too. So are you saying that if Cedric Wilson has a couple 600 yard recieving seasons and a few big plays in the playoffs that he is relavent?
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No. When he is anything more than a number three receiver, he might be.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That's the lamest defense I've ever heard. Receivers run routes. They're not playing quarterback.
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Price was not used much in the passing game, as Dallas employed multi-tightend formations to protect Bledsoe from frequent blitzers. Peerless' contribution to the Bills was key in changing the fortunes of their season after catching the game winning touchdown against the Houston Texans and Minnesota Vikings.

He is currently 9th on Buffalo's All-Time in yards for a Wide Receiver.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Peerless' contribution to the Bills was key in changing the fortunes of their season after catching the game winning touchdown against the Houston Texans and Minnesota Vikings.
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What fortunes? Taking them from wretched to mediocre?
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
does it matter?
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You can't compare players that didn't play to players that played four years. Kids either don't know the guys that don't play, or realize it's not USC's fault those kids couldn't hack it. Meanwhile, UT has WRs that play for four years, but that isn't enough to show that they can make it in the NFL. At USC, Mike Williams plays a year or two and gets drafted in the first round. Steve Smith and Dewayne Jarrett leave early and go in round 2.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Price was not used much in the passing game, as Dallas employed multi-tightend formations to protect Bledsoe from frequent blitzers. Peerless' contribution to the Bills was key in changing the fortunes of their season after catching the game winning touchdown against the Houston Texans and Minnesota Vikings.

He is currently 9th on Buffalo's All-Time in yards for a Wide Receiver.
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He had 400 yards last year. I wonder how many other Bill receivers bested that number.
 
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kptvol said:
You can't compare players that didn't play to players that played four years. Kids either don't know the guys that don't play, or realize it's not USC's fault those kids couldn't hack it. Meanwhile, UT has WRs that play for four years, but that isn't enough to show that they can make it in the NFL. At USC, Mike Williams plays a year or two and gets drafted in the first round. Steve Smith and Dewayne Jarrett leave early and go in round 2.
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Neither Swain nor Smith had the talent to make it in the NFL. Remember how this discussion got started, which is why Turner would've been better off at UT. Basically you are implying that it is better off to come in as a 5 star recruit and ride the bench for 4 years, while at another school they could've been their number 1 or 2 reciever. And btw if Steve Smith had gone to a school that didn't repeatedly produce draft busts, then he would've gotten drafted higher.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
yes. sortof like Carl Pickens did with the Bengals in the 90's.
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I'm done here. Anyone who tries to compare Carl Pickens, who was being covered by the Rod Woodsons and Deon Sanders of the league every week, to a stiff like Peerless Price who failed miserably in his pathetic attempt to be a number #1 receiver isn't worth debating.
 
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I was just on espn.com at the college football page. There is an article on there that talks about 10 prospects that stocks will rise this summer and there is a picture of Rod Wilks on there. You have to be a member or whatever so I couldn't read it but maybe someone else good and give a summary on it.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I'm done here. Anyone who tries to compare Carl Pickens, who was being covered by the Rod Woodsons and Deon Sanders of the league every week, to a stiff like Peerless Price who failed miserably in his pathetic attempt to be a number #1 receiver isn't worth debating.
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you're completely missing the point. You said oh well he changed the team from horrible to average. And I said Carl Pickens changed the Bengals from horrible to average. What are you getting at? No Peerless Price has not had as great of a career as Carl Pickens. Regardless, Tennessee is putting more players in the NFL than ever before, and Donte Stallworth was one of the highest draft picks in school history. You are just firing off way too many arguments here, and completely disregarding the big picture.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Neither Swain nor Smith had the talent to make it in the NFL. Remember how this discussion got started, which is why Turner would've been better off at UT. Basically you are implying that it is better off to come in as a 5 star recruit and ride the bench for 4 years, while at another school they could've been their number 1 or 2 reciever. And btw if Steve Smith had gone to a school that didn't repeatedly produce draft busts, then he would've gotten drafted higher.
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So Swain and Smith didn't have the talent to make it in the NFL (even though they were rated similarly to Patrick Turner) but these scrubs that couldn't crack the starting lineup at USC did? That makes a lot of sense. Rivals and recruiting systems don't get it right all the time. If these 5 star recruits can't hack it at USC it means they are Daniel Brooks repeats, not that the Trojans failed them.
 
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kptvol said:
So Swain and Smith didn't have the talent to make it in the NFL (even though they were rated similarly to Patrick Turner) but these scrubs that couldn't crack the starting lineup at USC did? That makes a lot of sense. Rivals and recruiting systems don't get it right all the time. If these 5 star recruits can't hack it at USC it means they are Daniel Brooks repeats, not that the Trojans failed them.
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Firstly, Patrick Turner was rated much higher than Swain and Smith. Neither of them were top 100 players. Turner was a top 5 player. And no the 5 star recievers I mentioned earlier at USC did not make the NFL nor did they crack the starting lineup. They didn't play jack in college or professionally. BTW Turner was rated higher than Daniel Brooks as well.
 
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kptvol said:
That's their own fault for being bad football players and the fault of the recruiting services for rating them so highly.
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Well then I guess the same goes for Bret Smith and Jayson Swain. Except they actually had decent college careers.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
By your logic, recruiting analysis are greater at evaluating talent than that of the ability of a NFL scout(s).
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No. I was simply referring to the fact that USC has had their share of WR's that had talent in high school, and ended up doing nothing. I am also arguing that Tennessee prepares their WR's for the NFL better than USC.
 
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