Roe vs Wade Overturned

[BowlBrother85]

It’s really hard to prove any claim false.

Depends on the circumstances. That is not always true.

 

[Vol8188]

Depends on the circumstances. That is not always true.

Yes it is. “Someone raped me.” Disprove it…

 

[BowlBrother85]

Disagree on which part? That people will exploit loopholes?

That having a rape exception, in state abortion laws, will lead to significantly more cases of false rape reports being made.

 

[Vol8188]

OMG. The pregnancy itself! You think that's fun? When it's not only a baby you don't want... but it's the baby of a man who violated you? Jesus Christ.

Right. And you’re saying they should be able to terminate on the day of delivery. So how are they avoiding the pregnancy in that scenario?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yes it is. “Someone raped me.” Disprove it…

Yeah .. because the cops aren't going to ask you follow up questions concerning who, where, when and how ... or ask if you received medical attention, and if not, then why?

 

[whodeycin85]

That having a rape exception, in state abortion laws, will lead to significantly more cases of false rape reports being made.

Do people lie about mental health when submitting paperwork to aqauire a gun? ...same difference. Women will lie to get an abortion if they want to if a rape exception is made.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Right. And you’re saying they should be able to terminate on the day of delivery. So how are they avoiding the pregnancy in that scenario?

You are getting into another territory ... a late term abortion when the fetus is viable? I don't have a problem with saving the baby's life at that point. That isn't an area that I've been talking about here.

 

[Vol8188]

Yeah .. because the cops aren't going to ask you follow up questions concerning who, where, when and how ... or ask if you received medical attention, and if not, then why?

If they received medical attention, they probably wouldn’t need an abortion. But yes, people can lie about all of those things.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Do people lie about mental health when submitting paperwork to aqauire a gun? ...same difference. Women will lie to get an abortion if they want to if a rape exception is made.

Not the same thing. That is not a parallel equivalency.

Your argument is basically that some women might lie in order to have an abortion that had resulted from consensual sex. In my opinion the risk of that isn't great enough, to leave out a rape exception in abortion laws.

 

[BowlBrother85]

If they received medical attention, they probably wouldn’t need an abortion. But yes, people can lie about all of those things.

... and they would likely be caught. It's not as easy to get away with that as you seem to think.

 

[Vol8188]

You are getting into another territory ... a late term abortion when the fetus is viable? I don't have a problem with saving the baby's life at that point. That isn't an area that I've been talking about here.

So you’re okay with aborting a child from rape at any point?

Hell yes!

Make up your mind. "Hell yes" or do we save the babies life?

 

[whodeycin85]

Not the same thing. That is not a parallel equivalency.

Your argument is basically that some women might lie in order to have an abortion that had resulted from consensual sex. In my opinion the risk of that isn't great enough, to leave out a rape exception in abortion laws.

Its an actually higher percent of false rape claims then there are abortions for rape. So we need a cover all exception for a lower percentage? That make no sense..of the point is to make people stop using abortion as birth control then. How is a coverall loophole gonna help..it'll hurt more then help.

 

[Vol8188]

... and they would likely be caught. It's not as easy to get away with that as you seem to think.

Not they wouldn't. You can't prove someone made a story up and even if they could the odds of a department going after a woman for that are slim to none.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Make up your mind. "Hell yes" or do we save the babies life?

Are we playing "gotcha games" here? I wasn't speaking about pregnancies where the baby has become viable. It had not been a part of the conversation up to then.

 

[Vol8188]

Are we playing "gotcha games" here? I wasn't speaking about pregnancies where the baby has become viable. It had not been a part of the conversation up to then.

“At any point” would include viable, by definition. So do you support the killing of a viable fetus in instances of rape?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Not they wouldn't. You can't prove someone made a story up and even if they could the odds of a department going after a woman for that are slim to none.

That is ridulous. Detectives prove fabricated stories all the time.

This is a link to a YouTube channel called "Across the Table." It's basically police interrogations of people, who are lying their butts off and being caught by a detective.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrvf1C0T1lNWrv77f_BsV1Q/videos

 

[BowlBrother85]

At any point” would include viable, by definition.

Yes, but that had not been a part of the discussion up until then. I wasn't talking about that. And yes, you are playing "gotcha games." Play it with someone else.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So do you support the killing of a viable fetus in instances of rape?

No. I support a rape victim having the option of terminating her pregnancy, up until it has become viable.

 

[Vol8188]

That is ridulous. Detectives prove fabricated stories all the time.

This is a link to a YouTube channel called "Across the Table." It's basically police interrogations of people, who are lying their butts off and being caught by a detective.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrvf1C0T1lNWrv77f_BsV1Q/videos

You think they're going to interrogate a rape victim? If they don't believe the story they'll investigate some and then move on.

 

[Vol8188]

This isn't about the fetus. It's about the mother not being forced to give birth to her attacker's baby. Such a mandate is cruel and disgusting, in my opinion. Poll after poll, shows that a majority of Americans agree with me on this, and that includes pro-life people.

It's not a gotcha game. This was your real response to 32 weeks gestation (an entire month after the 28 weeks originally set by Roe v Wade). Seems you support forcing women to give birth to their attacker's baby.

 

[BowlBrother85]

It's not a gotcha game. This was your real response to 32 weeks gestation (an entire month after the 28 weeks originally set by Roe v Wade). Seems you support forcing women to give birth to their attacker's baby.

If they have waited that long, then they should go ahead and have the baby. It is a silly game. That had not been part of the discussion up to then. If you wanna play games, reply to someone else's posts. I'm not interested.

 

[Vol8188]

If they have waited that long, then they should go ahead and have the baby. It is a silly game. That had not been part of the discussion up to then. If you wanna play games, reply to someone else's posts. I'm not interested.

I've now shown you 2 different times that I brought that up at the beginning of the discussion.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You think they're going to interrogate a rape victim? If they don't believe the story they'll investigate some and then move on.

Yes. Watch those videos. There is one where they catch a woman in Virginia lying about having been raped.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I've now shown you 2 different times that I brought that up at the beginning of the discussion.

Play this game with someone else. I'm not interested. Okay?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

No exception for life of mother included in Idaho GOP’s abortion platform language - Idaho Capital Sun

Awesome.