Romney campaign caught lying, red handed

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volinbham said:
I'll say it again - unless Obama is over 50% in all the swing states everything is in play. There is no trend right now.
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I agree with probably 90% of your posts.
This one I do disagree with.
To say there is not a trend in Obamas favor is not raking a realistic look at both the national and state polling. Obamas is definitely gaining support.

Obama does not have to win all the swing states. If he wins FL and OH he wins the election. Obamas lead is growing in both states.
 
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Gramps said:
I agree with probably 90% of your posts.
This one I do disagree with.
To say there is not a trend in Obamas favor is not raking a realistic look at both the national and state polling. Obamas is definitely gaining support.

Obama does not have to win all the swing states. If he wins FL and OH he wins the election. Obamas lead is growing in both states.
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Here's the thing though; until last week the "trend" was in favor of Romney. If this stays the same or widens over the next several weeks then we have a trend. Otherwise we have volatility.
 
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volinbham said:
Here's the thing though; until last week the "trend" was in favor of Romney. If this stays the same or widens over the next several weeks then we have a trend. Otherwise we have volatility.
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As it will stay. Obama still has an inside track as romney will need a near clean sweep of swing states. Obama does not.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
You assume that people feel Romney is the answer. Most people do not feel this way. Thus, Romney is not gaining the ground you would conventionally thing in an election with this kind of economy for the incumbent.
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knowing that Obama isn't is plenty. The unknown is better than a known problem. Discounting that is silly. Any polling showing a large spread should be summarily ignored.
 
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Rasmussen has Obama +2 in FL, and +1 in Ohio. They are tied in VA and CO and Romney leading MO, IO, and WI

It's very close
 
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volinbham said:
Here's the thing though; until last week the "trend" was in favor of Romney. If this stays the same or widens over the next several weeks then we have a trend. Otherwise we have volatility.
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Romney is going to have to destroy Obama at the debates and in a way that the average American can understand. Doing so in a way that only intellectuals and politically savvy people will understand will not cut it.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Rasmussen has Obama +2 in FL, and +1 in Ohio. They are tied in VA and CO and Romney leading MO, IO, and WI

It's very close
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milohimself said:
As it will stay. Obama still has an inside track as romney will need a near clean sweep of swing states. Obama does not.
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As it will stay?

I agree he has and has had the inside track. That still didn't prevent the major closing to a virtual dead heat that occurred until the last week or so.

I'm still betting Obama will win but to call it over or say this is a trend just ignores how much volatility we've seen up to this point.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
No. That logic is flawed.
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acting as if logic applies is retarded. Underpinning all elections is the general undercurrent regarding the economy. Today, that situation is hideous. Hell, it won Bush, who was absolutely undeserving, a second election.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interestingly, Romney has managed to make the economy a tertiatry issue this week. Well done.
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Congressman Devin Nunes has said today the Intelligence Committee requested someone from the State Dept. brief them on the events in the Middle East, etc., and they refused. And didn't give a reason why. They would have settled for staffer, they weren't asking for anyone in particular.

He said it was unprecedented and had never happened as long as he could remember. He made a point of saying there was a great deal of bi-partisan cooperation on the committee, so it couldn't be blamed on election year partisanship.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
acting as if logic applies is retarded. Underpinning all elections is the general undercurrent regarding the economy. Today, that situation is hideous. Hell, it won Bush, who was absolutely undeserving, a second election.
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It is never the only factor. Way to simpleton presidential elections.

There is no doubt that the economy, wrongly might I add, plays a role in elections. Thinking that because this economy is bad, Romney is going to win is nuts.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
It is never the only factor. Way to simpleton presidential elections.

There is no doubt that the economy, wrongly might I add, plays a role in elections. Thinking that because this economy is bad, Romney is going to win is nuts.
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I didn't say he'll win. I said the polls are utter trash.

Talking like the economy, when hurting, is AN issue is ludicrous. It is THE issue. Elections are for simpletons. If not, the two idiots currently runni g wouldnt be there and the race between them wouldn't be remotely close.
 
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RE: the polls. Was just scrolling through Facebook and an R I know and his friend who lives in FL were both joking about how often they get called and how they always say they think Obama is doing a great job to the pollsters. One said he told them to bring back McGovern!

Proceed with caution.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I didn't say he'll win. I said the polls are utter trash.

Talking like the economy, when hurting, is AN issue is ludicrous. It is THE issue.
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Historically, yes. This election, not so much. Although it should be.

BigPapaVol said:
Elections are for simpletons. If not, the two idiots currently runni g wouldnt be there and the race between them wouldn't be remotely close.
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Agreed. Part of the reason why the economy is not the most important factor this go around.
 
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