Rucker: Nico is being redshirted

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Vol8188 said:
I named about 6 guys who would’ve likely been high first round picks if they’d came out but who decided to come back
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Your interpretation of "likely" doesn't meet the definition. Justin Herbert was the ONE name that qualified. Baker Mayfield was borderline first round...most LIKELYJ second round. Returning and winning the Heisman, vaulted him to NUMBER ONE OVERALL...hard to second guess. Locker was 16-24 as a starter for the Washington Huskies. Todd McShay projected him as the number one overall pick, but he was isolated everyone else considered him a second round talent. The Underwear Olympics and Pro Days wouldn't have helped. Levis WANTED to be a top 10 pick after one season of relative success...we saw the results of returning. You did name ONE with Herbert tho. He finished second to Gardner Minshew in all-conference, so he most likely felt he had something to prove. Point is, no one in the newly minted NIL brand era sacrifices time towards that second contract.
 
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butchna said:
Your interpretation of "likely" doesn't meet the definition. Justin Herbert was the ONE name that qualified. Baker Mayfield was borderline first round...most LIKELYJ second round. Returning and winning the Heisman, vaulted him to NUMBER ONE OVERALL...hard to second guess. Locker was 16-24 as a starter for the Washington Huskies. Todd McShay projected him as the number one overall pick, but he was isolated everyone else considered him a second round talent. The Underwear Olympics and Pro Days wouldn't have helped. Levis WANTED to be a top 10 pick after one season of relative success...we saw the results of returning. You did name ONE with Herbert tho. He finished second to Gardner Minshew in all-conference, so he most likely felt he had something to prove. Point is, no one in the newly minted NIL brand era sacrifices time towards that second contract.
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The definition is an impossible one because the draft projections players receive aren’t disclosed but it’s very possible each of those could’ve been top 10 picks.

Without a doubt Levis would’ve been the top QB if he came out early. Locker was believed to be a first round guy by more than just Todd. Mayfield had a better JR season than senior as did Wentz. A lot of those guys would’ve been high picks and likely top ten if they came out early.

It’s pretty well accepted too that Locker’s stock was higher after his JR year than SR year and yet he still went top 10
 
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Vol8188 said:
The definition is an impossible one because the draft projections players receive aren’t disclosed but it’s very possible each of those could’ve been top 10 picks.

Without a doubt Levis would’ve been the top QB if he came out early. Locker was believed to be a first round guy by more than just Todd. Mayfield had a better JR season than senior as did Wentz. A lot of those guys would’ve been high picks and likely top ten if they came out early.

It’s pretty well accepted too that Locker’s stock was higher after his JR year than SR year and yet he still went top 10
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"Possible" maybe...LIKELY subject to debate. I think we can agree that IF Nico is projected top 10 after his junior season, no amount of NIL keeps him in Knoxville, and that would be a great problem.
 
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Vols1313 said:
For what ? Lol if he’s as good as advertised he’s gonna be gone anyways so we will only get him for two years
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Advertised by whom, a recruiting service? Furthermore even IF he is as good as his star rating. There is still wisdom in preserving another year for a freshman. There are a host of reasons that players may be happy for one more season to play. See Milton's career as an example.
 
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livefaith said:
Advertised by whom, a recruiting service? Furthermore even IF he is as good as his star rating. There is still wisdom in preserving another year for a freshman. There are a host of reasons that players may be happy for one more season to play. See Milton's career as an example.
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Hopefully they don't have similar treks.
 
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butchna said:
"Possible" maybe...LIKELY subject to debate. I think we can agree that IF Nico is projected top 10 after his junior season, no amount of NIL keeps him in Knoxville, and that would be a great problem.
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Until a guy is taken it’s always subject to debate. And no one is saying any player will stay for NIL alone.

What I am saying is that it’s possible even if he’s as elite as we believe, that he decides to come back. Because it happens. So this (redshirt) is a good thing since it gives him an extra year if he were decide for any reason (injury as a junior could be another reason).
 
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Vol8188 said:
Until a guy is taken it’s always subject to debate. And no one is saying any player will stay for NIL alone.

What I am saying is that it’s possible even if he’s as elite as we believe, that he decides to come back. Because it happens. So this (redshirt) is a good thing since it gives him an extra year if he were decide for any reason (injury as a junior could be another reason).
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If we had a better season and been able to get him more reps, the redshirt possibility for injury would not have disappeared. It's an option until it's utilized. As is, might as well take it.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
Thought heuepel said that wasn't the plan.....
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Plans changed after APSU. If you’re that close to him being eligible for a redshirt, why not? You never know what could happen. He could decide to come back for his senior year a la Peyton and then get hurt partway through and his draft stock plummets. The red shirt is an insurance against uncertainty.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I don't think it mattered yesterday which of our quarterbacks started since Georgia could pretty much score at will on Banks' charges.
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Georgia could score at will on just about every team. The are #4 in the country in total Offense and #5 in scoring offense. They have 4 and 5 stars players 3 levels deep on both sides of the ball.
 
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If he turns out to be a baller we will only have him for 2 more years BUT what if his NIL compensation is enough and he just loves the college life and we get 4 full years out of him?
 
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Vols1313 said:
For what ? Lol if he’s as good as advertised he’s gonna be gone anyways so we will only get him for two years
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Why would you burn a redshirt if you have the option? He’s allowed to play in 4 games this year to preserve that redshirt, and the bowl game doesn’t count against that.
I personally think he will be elite, but there are no guarantees of that, or how fast he will develop, so why not at least have that option available?
However, I would have started him a long time ago. But I see what Heupel is thinking and it makes sense to me now that the season is almost over.
I would have loved to see him play against Georgia but he needs to put on 20 lbs, but I also get why Heupel wants to protect him.
 
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