Rumor About Ausmus

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Bringing Moffitt from LSU would be understandable, although both Ausmus and Moffitt are two of the most respected S&C coaches in the country and hail from the same lineage.

Bringing the guy from La Tech would not be.
 
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Godfatha said:
What an absolute failure by this staff/administration in not keeping this guy.
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+1. I thought letting Cregg go was F-Up #1....especially considering that he was wanted by the Raiders staff, and many of the OL guys we were after really loved him. Hiring a guy from MTSU and Memphis (which had a horrid record last year and he was out of a job because of it), was Major F-Up #2.

Letting AA go, in favor of his La. Tech buddy is F-Up #3...and while we have no choice but to try and get behind the new HC, this is no way to start off in an already difficult situation. These screw ups will serve only to hasten his departure if we undergo 2 losing seasons. All this goodwill will wear off really quick, and his critics...I'll be among them...will point back to these choices as further proof that he wasn't the right person for the job in the first place.

I think Dooley forgets that he wasn't hired to save this program...and thus there isn't this inherent need to purge the old staff, as if they were part of a problem.
We had no problem. This program was headed in the right direction, before he arrived...and what's more...if this change were to occur back in December, he'd likely still be at La. Tech, and we'd have likely gotten a much more proven candidate...like Kelly.

So he needs to tread very carefully here. Bringing in his former staff is going to make matters worse...not better.
 
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It's comical that so many people are freaking out over this. He is a strength and conditioning coach...
 
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NashVol. said:
It's comical that so many people are freaking out over this. He is a strength and conditioning coach...
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You should realize that there are quite a few times throughout the year where the only coach the players can work out with is the S&C coach.
 
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JFreak said:
You should realize that there are quite a few times throughout the year where the only coach the players can work out with is the S&C coach.
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during that time, what exactly are they doing? it's my understanding that it's just lifting and conditioning. seems to me, there are a lot of guys out there qualified for that. it's certainly important, but not to the extent that we should be calling Dooley an idiot because he didn't retain Ausmus.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
+1. I thought letting Cregg go was F-Up #1....especially considering that he was wanted by the Raiders staff, and many of the OL guys we were after really loved him
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Yes many OL guys we were after liked this guy...however, thats like the tail wagging the dog - you hire coaches that are talented and buy into your system and will be able to recruit well. You don't hire coaches just cause a handful of recruits like the guy. What happens next season if/when he doesn't connect with recruits - you fire him and find the new popular guy? That's just asinine. Regarding Cregg and the Raiders - he was a Kiffin guy, and was the assistant OL coach under Tom Cable. Cable ran the O-line and the training...Cregg was his step and fetch boy. He turned out to be good, but nobody was saying he was a stellar hire back then. The only positive was he was from the NFL. We may end up with a guy that is better who knows - for now, no way you can't call it an F-up

TENNaciousUTfan said:
Hiring a guy from MTSU and Memphis (which had a horrid record last year and he was out of a job because of it), was Major F-Up #2.
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You're jumping to yet another BIG conclusion. MTSU is consistently a top offensive team. At Memphis, with the former HC gone, like in most places, the new head coach brings his guys in, few if any of the old staff are kept - that's why he's out of a job, NOT because he was a bad coach. Further, he's a position coach. He needs to teach technique and get those position player's heads on straight. He seems to have been successful at that shown by helping those Memphis receivers. He's not the OC or recruiting coordinator - he's a position coach...teach it well and he can be a good hire.

TENNaciousUTfan said:
Letting AA go, in favor of his La. Tech buddy is F-Up #3
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I haven't read anywhere that Dooley is looking to bring in a La Tech buddy. Maybe I missed it, and if i did, please get me the link. What I've read is his first choice MAY be (and I say may be because it seems like Dooley likes to play things close to his vest and most of the stuff on here is outright speculation) Moffitt - the S & C coach from LSU - a well respected coach, not some schlub. The other name I saw somewhere was an S&C coach from Texas - Maib...So there goes F-up #3

TENNaciousUTfan said:
These screw ups will serve only to hasten his departure if we undergo 2 losing seasons. All this goodwill will wear off really quick, and his critics...I'll be among them...will point back to these choices as further proof that he wasn't the right person for the job in the first place.
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Who pissed your cheerios dude? You don't like the hire - great! In most of your posts on here you make that abundantly clear. Why don't you REALLY support the coach and team and stop looking for any little reason to rip'em a new one. Fault finding and criticism is not support.

TENNaciousUTfan said:
I think Dooley forgets that he wasn't hired to save this program...and thus there isn't this inherent need to purge the old staff, as if they were part of a problem.
We had no problem. This program was headed in the right direction, before he arrived...and what's more...if this change were to occur back in December, he'd likely still be at La. Tech, and we'd have likely gotten a much more proven candidate...like Kelly.
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I think you are mistake again. He most certainly was brought in to save this program. He was not brought in to make it mediocre. This program was in a bad place, especially from a perception stand point. I hate the saying "perception is reality" cause that's rarely true...however, to most people it is truth itself. UT football, the AD, Boosters, etc. wanted to separate itself from the former staff - at least regarding the way they ran the program publicly, the attitudes, the flippant attitude toward rules and traditions. The last staff was a PR nightmare for the school - Dooley was most assuredly brought in to be the "anti-Kiffin."

Remember too, Hamilton, or the search firm, contacted a number of coaches to feel out interest, prob. negotiated with 1 or 2 of them, Dooley was the best of the bunch. You think Kelly or some other "big name" was going to come here if the move was made in Dec. just because it was a couple weeks sooner - FAIL. Kelly was waiting on ND, he knew they'd come calling. If he had an entire season to look, like if a coach announced it would be his last year, then a proper search could be done and maybe, maybe, he could lure a top 10 "name" to UT...given the circumstances, not a bad hire

TENNaciousUTfan said:
So he needs to tread very carefully here. Bringing in his former staff is going to make matters worse...not better.
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I'm glad you are clairvoyant and can see accurately into the future! The staff isn't even complete and you have no basis, zero, to make that claim. You never know, maybe the staff he puts together is as good as the last one. From where I sit there are at least a 1/2 dozen staffs better than the last one we had. wait and see before you so adamantly oppose it

just my opinion - you're entitled to yours...but I really think you need a valium and some deep breathing
 
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JFreak said:
You should realize that there are quite a few times throughout the year where the only coach the players can work out with is the S&C coach.
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This is true and one of the most important reasons that the HC needs to have a guy he trusts implicitly, 100%, no doubts in his mind that the S&C is training them properly and able to support the coach and rally guys when they are b&m-ing about the HC working them too much or whatever issues come up. Besides having a great training program that coach needs to be the HC's biggest cheerleader in many ways
 
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VolAlumNGatrland said:
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Yes many OL guys we were after liked this guy...however, thats like the tail wagging the dog - you hire coaches that are talented and buy into your system and will be able to recruit well. You don't hire coaches just cause a handful of recruits like the guy. What happens next season if/when he doesn't connect with recruits - you fire him and find the new popular guy? That's just asinine. Regarding Cregg and the Raiders - he was a Kiffin guy, and was the assistant OL coach under Tom Cable. Cable ran the O-line and the training...Cregg was his step and fetch boy. He turned out to be good, but nobody was saying he was a stellar hire back then. The only positive was he was from the NFL. We may end up with a guy that is better who knows - for now, no way you can't call it an F-up



You're jumping to yet another BIG conclusion. MTSU is consistently a top offensive team. At Memphis, with the former HC gone, like in most places, the new head coach brings his guys in, few if any of the old staff are kept - that's why he's out of a job, NOT because he was a bad coach. Further, he's a position coach. He needs to teach technique and get those position player's heads on straight. He seems to have been successful at that shown by helping those Memphis receivers. He's not the OC or recruiting coordinator - he's a position coach...teach it well and he can be a good hire.



I haven't read anywhere that Dooley is looking to bring in a La Tech buddy. Maybe I missed it, and if i did, please get me the link. What I've read is his first choice MAY be (and I say may be because it seems like Dooley likes to play things close to his vest and most of the stuff on here is outright speculation) Moffitt - the S & C coach from LSU - a well respected coach, not some schlub. The other name I saw somewhere was an S&C coach from Texas - Maib...So there goes F-up #3



Who pissed your cheerios dude? You don't like the hire - great! In most of your posts on here you make that abundantly clear. Why don't you REALLY support the coach and team and stop looking for any little reason to rip'em a new one. Fault finding and criticism is not support.



I think you are mistake again. He most certainly was brought in to save this program. He was not brought in to make it mediocre. This program was in a bad place, especially from a perception stand point. I hate the saying "perception is reality" cause that's rarely true...however, to most people it is truth itself. UT football, the AD, Boosters, etc. wanted to separate itself from the former staff - at least regarding the way they ran the program publicly, the attitudes, the flippant attitude toward rules and traditions. The last staff was a PR nightmare for the school - Dooley was most assuredly brought in to be the "anti-Kiffin."

Remember too, Hamilton, or the search firm, contacted a number of coaches to feel out interest, prob. negotiated with 1 or 2 of them, Dooley was the best of the bunch. You think Kelly or some other "big name" was going to come here if the move was made in Dec. just because it was a couple weeks sooner - FAIL. Kelly was waiting on ND, he knew they'd come calling. If he had an entire season to look, like if a coach announced it would be his last year, then a proper search could be done and maybe, maybe, he could lure a top 10 "name" to UT...given the circumstances, not a bad hire



I'm glad you are clairvoyant and can see accurately into the future! The staff isn't even complete and you have no basis, zero, to make that claim. You never know, maybe the staff he puts together is as good as the last one. From where I sit there are at least a 1/2 dozen staffs better than the last one we had. wait and see before you so adamantly oppose it

just my opinion - you're entitled to yours...but I really think you need a valium and some deep breathing
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Boom! You Got Served!:stinker2:
 
#87
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PeaceCorpsVol said:
Boom! You Got Served!:stinker2:
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What...by offering a difference of opinion? Please? That's what is so troubling about this forum...so many juveniles, that try to drag you down to their level. Can't have a decent discussion without folks throwing a fit like this guy simply because you have a differing perspective. So, you choose to take the blind optimism route...fine. I don't see why I need to blast you and poke fun at you for it.

No...Dooley was not hired to be the Anti-Kiffin. He was hired to replace a coach that left to coach elsewhere...PERIOD. He wasn't hired because we didn't fancy Kiffin. On the Contrary, if one were to browse through your posts prior to his departure...you're likely singing his praises...so give your lecture at some other classroom. I ain't flying around here.

Are some folks glad that he's not as brash as Kiffin and seems to be less of a threat to get us into trouble with the NCAA...sure. But that would be the case with A-N-Y of the other candidates to replace Kiffin as well. Dooley doesn't have the market cornered in character. Wittingham, Peterson, Patterson, etc, etc...all have more character than Kiffin. Character or no character, the job was to fill the spot left vacant voluntarily.

Back to the point...you extol the values of hiring an MTSU/Memphis coach....great. That's fine if you're looking to replace a coach in the OVC or Sun Belt conference...but the last time I checked, the SEC was the most competitive, meatgrinder of a conference....who will chew these lower level coaches up and spit them out. Need some proof? Two words should do the trick...1) Dave and 2) Clawson

Thank you ladies and gents...you are too kind. :hi:
 
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#88
You want guys who can mesh with the new head coach, which is why most of the Kiffin guys were not retained. Thompson and Chaney stayed because they did not like the Kiffins at all.
 
#89
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
+1. I thought letting Cregg go was F-Up #1....especially considering that he was wanted by the Raiders staff, and many of the OL guys we were after really loved him. Hiring a guy from MTSU and Memphis (which had a horrid record last year and he was out of a job because of it), was Major F-Up #2.

Letting AA go, in favor of his La. Tech buddy is F-Up #3...and while we have no choice but to try and get behind the new HC, this is no way to start off in an already difficult situation. These screw ups will serve only to hasten his departure if we undergo 2 losing seasons. All this goodwill will wear off really quick, and his critics...I'll be among them...will point back to these choices as further proof that he wasn't the right person for the job in the first place.

I think Dooley forgets that he wasn't hired to save this program...and thus there isn't this inherent need to purge the old staff, as if they were part of a problem.
We had no problem. This program was headed in the right direction, before he arrived...and what's more...if this change were to occur back in December, he'd likely still be at La. Tech, and we'd have likely gotten a much more proven candidate...like Kelly.

So he needs to tread very carefully here. Bringing in his former staff is going to make matters worse...not better.
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Your living in a fantasy world if you think Kelly would of came to Tn instead of ND.You say Dooley wasnt hired to save the program ? If he starts winning wouldnt that be saving the program?Im not saying Dooley is going to win here , nobody including you has no ideal but it is what it is.Its not his fault UT is in the mess their in.We have to give him and chance and if he doesnt get the job done then he will be fired and so will Hammy.
 
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Burger said:
You want guys who can mesh with the new head coach, which is why most of the Kiffin guys were not retained. Thompson and Chaney stayed because they did not like the Kiffins at all.
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I don't understand the implied subterfuge of keeping a coach who has stated publicly that they WANT to stay...especially when the guy is a UT alum. Dooley said in his PC that the coaches that were there would be allowed to stay. Sounds like a lot of backpedaling, lying and low character dealing already taking place. Dragging coaches along after stating publicly that they would be allowed to stay if they wanted.

It's not like Kiffin left to coach within the same conference. What does it matter if Cregg or AA happened to have a previously cordial relationship with CLK. Why can they not change their outlook the same way we have? And regardless, the whole idea that you have to purge these coaches out because Kiffin's a Boogy man, is downright ridiculous.

Like Cregg stated, "My relationship with Coach Kiffin was too much to overcome."....why? What legitimate harm does that pose? I don't like the fact that a first year coach would leave so early, but Dooley should rise above such nonsense in trying to make anyone associated with Kiffin in the past as part of some Gestapo. It's absurd, and yet we are already crowning Dooley the king of Character 2 weeks into his tenure...even after going back on his word.
 
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tnvols72 said:
Your living in a fantasy world if you think Kelly would of came to Tn instead of ND.You say Dooley wasnt hired to save the program ? If he starts winning wouldnt that be saving the program?Im not saying Dooley is going to win here , nobody including you has no ideal but it is what it is.Its not his fault UT is in the mess their in.We have to give him and chance and if he doesnt get the job done then he will be fired and so will Hammy.
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If I weren't a die-hard UT fan, I wouldn't be spending my time here. I want to give any coach a chance...but that doesn't preclude me from calling things like I see it. I don't have to be a sheep to be a fan.

Some of his subsequent hirings and firings have caused me to have grave doubts. We are going head to head with 3-4 of the best teams in the nation every year...and bringing in a bunch of lower tier coaches from losing programs not only dispels any optimism I may try to muster, but look what it does for our recruiting. How are you going to sell La. Tech experience over a guy that has been coaching on a NC team for years, who has NFL experience as well? It's like trying to sell a wrench to a surgeon. Come on folks...you can hope for the best while still expressing a little concern from time to time.

Just because you may love Obama as president, doesn't mean you have to remain silent while he tries to cram a colossal spending bill down your throat, does it?
 
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For crying out loud Tenn! While I know I don't have 3000 post like you, I know a thing or two about coaching and the game. All I see in your writings is bashing Coach Dooley and the hires he has made. What gives? You are not even giving the man a chance to be successful. While you are as entitled to your opinion as the next person, the gloom and doom you are always preaching is a little tiresome. It seems to me that you would find something wrong with anything Coach Dooley does. Everyone on this site knows that. You don't like the hire. I guess you would have found something wrong if Jesus had been hired.
 
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AllVolinGA said:
For crying out loud Tenn! While I know I don't have 3000 post like you, I know a thing or two about coaching and the game. All I see in your writings is bashing Coach Dooley and the hires he has made. What gives? You are not even giving the man a chance to be successful. While you are as entitled to your opinion as the next person, the gloom and doom you are always preaching is a little tiresome. It seems to me that you would find something wrong with anything Coach Dooley does. Everyone on this site knows that. You don't like the hire. I guess you would have found something wrong if Jesus had been hired.
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Look Chief...what if there were more people like myself, who questioned Kiffin's character and desire to be at Tennessee for any length of time (I bet Vol calls was a huge culture shock to him...it's embarrassing to me to hear some of those folks, and to think I get lumped in among them)? I would be hazed relentlessly, much the same way you are trying to give me the business now.

I reserve the right to think for myself, and my threshold for "Getting behind the Man" just so happens to better thinner than yours. So be it...what skin is it off your nose, personally? I'm just calling it like I see it, and I don't need your permission to speak up. Letting a guy like AA go is a big mistake, IMHO....especially as he is a UT alum, and the system he follows is that of Moffit's.
If I see a problem, I don't care how many folks like you try to shut me up...I'm going to say something.

If I happen to like a particular move or hire, I'll say so. He did well with Bagget, IMHO, and that's the type of hires I was hoping he would continue. Instead he goes into lower level schools to bring in guys with no SEC level experience, no experience from winning programs, nor recruiting prowess to speak of.

That's not the sort of choices you want to see a coach at this high of a level making for your program. I believe the squeeky wheel is the one that gets the grease. It worked to get Fulmer out of town...even against a withering storm of criticism from the Fulmerite hordes.
 
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all this weeping and gnashing of teeth over an S&C coach that was on the job at North Texas for 2 weeks before LK gave him a shot. Ausmus is not worth all this angst.
 
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Ausmus was reportedly given the opportunity to remain in charge of Tennessee’s strength program, but with no guarantees of being the football strength coach. So he’s heading back to the west coast.
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rivals
 
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Preds&Vols said:
Somebody said in another thread that it is a done deal according to the Rivals USC page. Anybody who can wanna check that out?
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UT's official list of coaches still has him on, so apparently the deal isn't done yet.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
If I weren't a die-hard UT fan, I wouldn't be spending my time here. I want to give any coach a chance...but that doesn't preclude me from calling things like I see it. I don't have to be a sheep to be a fan.

Some of his subsequent hirings and firings have caused me to have grave doubts. We are going head to head with 3-4 of the best teams in the nation every year...and bringing in a bunch of lower tier coaches from losing programs not only dispels any optimism I may try to muster, but look what it does for our recruiting. How are you going to sell La. Tech experience over a guy that has been coaching on a NC team for years, who has NFL experience as well? It's like trying to sell a wrench to a surgeon. Come on folks...you can hope for the best while still expressing a little concern from time to time.

Just because you may love Obama as president, doesn't mean you have to remain silent while he tries to cram a colossal spending bill down your throat, does it?
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Didn't Florida hire an assistant from Central Michigan to fill a spot this year? Didn't Willie Mack Garza come from North Dakota State University to fill a spot on the previous staff that you so loved? Gus Malzhan was a damn high school coach before becoming the Offensive Coordinator at Arkansas then moving to Tulane and back to the SEC to coach at Auburn.

Point being that coaching at a lower tier school doesn't automatically make you a bad coach. People have to start somewhere. Coaching hires are based a lot on connections. You can be the best coach in the world, but if you don't have the connections to get the interviews then you're never moving up.
 
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Tenn: you must have some difficulty with reading comprehension because I did say in my post that you were as entitled to your opinion as much as anyone. However, it seems to me that all of your post are negative in nature. Coming on here and continually screaming this hire sucks and that hire sucks does nothing to promote or forward the discussion. It just means you are a record with the needle stuck in the same groove. Voice your discontent till the end of days, really what have you accomplished except to make yourself look small and bitter.
 
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The poster who said that Ausmus was not that good does not have a clue. Aaron is one of the best S&C coach in the Nation. However, he is not the only S&C coach who can get the job done. There are a lot of young S&C coaches trained in the Stuckey school of thought, including the one at La T, who can come in and we would not miss a beat.
 
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