Rush Limbaugh has passed

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GSD82 said:
I would absolutely rather watch a regular season game from 1988 than now where it’s one pass or no pass and the 3 pointer flies. No bigs, no post play is boring. I just posted this in another thread
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Yeah, nobody ever took a bad shot without passing in the 80's. BTW, Lebron makes those. It's definitely not a boring play. Maybe check out a game or two instead of just watching clips the trolls circulate. You would like Jokic. He might be the most skilled post player ever.



 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Paul Harvey once said that he thought of Rush Limbaugh's shtick as a more articulate Archie Bunker. He didn't think it was genuine but rather a caricature of what he thought would play well to his audience. Limbaugh had a keen understanding of who was listening to his show... and why.
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luthervol said:
He knew exactly what his listeners wanted to hear and was more than happy to take it to the bank.
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He is absolutely no different than any other entertainer or politician in that regard.

Most politicians, especially most skilled politicians, could make an argument for the other side as effectively as they argue for their own side. With a few exceptions, I haven't the slightest idea if politicians genuinely believe the words that come out of their mouths. If Nancy Pelosi, for example, was representing Kansas instead of San Francisco, she could be a crazy-eyed Michelle Bachmann-type conservative. There's no doubt in my mind.
 
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StarRaider said:
Lakers vs. Bad Boy Pistons or KC Jones' Celtics as good as it got.
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@n_huffhines is right, the overall skill of every NBA roster 1-12 is much better than it was 30 or 40 years ago, even 20 and that’s because these guys start playing and honing their skills at such an early age because there is so much money at stake. The product, the storylines, the rivalries, the villains are not as good as they were 20,30, 40 years ago because these guys start playing together in AAU ball and honing their skills at such an early age that they become friends because there’s so much money at stake. Sports need villains and the NBA has a bunch of guys that are either too scared or too dumb at being a good villain.
 
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Just got to hear his wife tell everyone on the show this morning.....man, that must have been tough for her. We lost a great one. Sad day.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Mine too.

Everything is what you make of it. If you don't rely on a ridiculous level of socialization or continuous feedback from others 2020 was just another year with some minor adjustments.
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Purely anecdotal, I have absolutely noticed in my own life that the pandemic has been much, much harder on extroverted people.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
@n_huffhines is right, the overall skill of every NBA roster 1-12 is much better than it was 30 or 40 years ago, even 20 and that’s because these guys start playing and honing their skills at such an early age because there is so much money at stake. The product, the storylines, the rivalries, the villains are not as good as they were 20,30, 40 years ago because these guys start playing together in AAU ball and honing their skills at such an early age that they become friends because there’s so much money at stake. Sports need villains and the NBA has a bunch of guys that are either too scared or too dumb at being a good villain.
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Part of the difference is expansion. The 80's and 90's saw a ton of expansion that exceeded the growth of the talent pool. I think there were 7 new teams in like 15 years. 80's were solid, which evolved into a higher level of basketball in the very early 90's but the talent lull hit super hard in the mid-to-late 90's. It was a garbage league, for real. The pace was slowed down considerably so teams didn't have to go deep into their benches. We've only had 1 new team in the last 20+ years and had an explosion of talent with the growth of international basketball. Not only is the average player far superior, but we have as many quality superstars as we've ever had. Probably more.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
@n_huffhines is right, the overall skill of every NBA roster 1-12 is much better than it was 30 or 40 years ago, even 20 and that’s because these guys start playing and honing their skills at such an early age because there is so much money at stake. The product, the storylines, the rivalries, the villains are not as good as they were 20,30, 40 years ago because these guys start playing together in AAU ball and honing their skills at such an early age that they become friends because there’s so much money at stake. Sports need villains and the NBA has a bunch of guys that are either too scared or too dumb at being a good villain.
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Ticky tack fouls have also killed the game. Every Detroit player would have fouled out in the first half if they called the games then like they do now.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't recall hardly anyone flipping out over that. Years latter there was a stink but at the time the press and most people shrugged it off as the Pistons running their mouths.
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It was the 80s.

It was the pistons.

It was a team labeled the bad boys IN the 80s.

Modern day players and kids have no idea that it was an actual war to them and they were bringing hell every night. The broke jaws, broke legs, body slammed, hip checked, close lined, punched people.

It was like watching a fight with a basketball thrown into the ring.

......and I miss it sooooooo much.


And every coach in America thought the were Bobby knight.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
@n_huffhines is right, the overall skill of every NBA roster 1-12 is much better than it was 30 or 40 years ago, even 20 and that’s because these guys start playing and honing their skills at such an early age because there is so much money at stake. The product, the storylines, the rivalries, the villains are not as good as they were 20,30, 40 years ago because these guys start playing together in AAU ball and honing their skills at such an early age that they become friends because there’s so much money at stake. Sports need villains and the NBA has a bunch of guys that are either too scared or too dumb at being a good villain.
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We've established a mutual agreement in this forum. Even when @n_huffhines is right, we do not acknowledge. It's best this way.
 
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allvol123 said:
I think it has been hardest on people that need direction.
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I haven't noticed that per se, but it has definitely been harder on people who feel the need to always be doing something socially or going somewhere. People who the thought of a night at home alone (or just them and a significant other) bores them to death.
 
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NEO said:
It was the 80s.

It was the pistons.

It was a team labeled the bad boys IN the 80s.

Modern day players and kids have no idea that it was an actual war to them and they were bringing hell every night. The broke jaws, broke legs, body slammed, hip checked, close lined, punched people.

It was like watching a fight with a basketball thrown into the ring.

......and I miss it sooooooo much.


And every coach in America thought the were Bobby knight.
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I can't remember who said it, maybe Lambier but they said 'you have to be a man to come in the paint". Someone else once said something along the lines of "I take it personally when they come into my lane". Players today would curl up in a ball and cry if they had to play those guys.
 
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05_never_again said:
I haven't noticed that per se, but it has definitely been harder on people who feel the need to always be doing something socially or going somewhere. People who the thought of a night at home alone (or just them and a significant other) bores them to death.
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My family is one of those always doing something types, hasnt been a problem for us.
 
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utvolpj said:
Like small business owners?

Also many kids are absolutely struggling
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Hasn't been hard on us. Then again, most people that own businesses have no business owning them anyway. I speak that from direct experience with hundreds of business owners through my job.
 
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hog88 said:
Ticky tack fouls have also killed the game. Every Detroit player would have fouled out in the first half if they called the games then like they do now.
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There were ticky-tack fouls back then. You can find highlights of Jordan's big games against the Pistons where they show fouls and FT's. He got all the calls.

One thing that has changed is the crackdown on flagrant fouls, but that's good. Flagrant fouls are not good basketball.

Another big change is no hand checking, which I think is a good rule change too. Not only does it open the game up more, but it requires better defensive skill. You have to be some combination of long, quick, strong, and having good footwork in order to keep your man from getting to the basket. Guys today would just goad you into fouls if there were hand-checking, so it'd mean more FT's and more boring BS.

Jordan was smoking tiny little dudes like John Starks, Joe Dumars, Byron Scott, and Jeff Hornacek deep in the playoffs. Dumars was a good defender for a little guy but he was still a little guy and that matters a ton. The Warriors dynasty alone had 4 very good, big wings they could have put on MJ. Most playoff teams have at least a couple.

Another big change is you can play zone D, which I think is good.
 
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