Russia and the NRA

[BeecherVol]

lol....we're talking about the "brain dead", that brings in the right wing vote.

Brain dead, walking dead.

Sums it up pretty well.

 

[hog88]

That's why I said if you're not loading up on penicillin and super antibiotics, you're not really preparing yourself anyway. I may barter some meds for guns if need be.

If I've got guns and you don't why would I need to barter?

 

[1972 Grad]

If I've got guns and you don't why would I need to barter?

Normally, I would agree, but Luther protects his stuff in other ways. He may have mace and an air horn.

 

[volfanhill]

Normally, I would agree, but Luther protects his stuff in other ways. He may have mace and an air horn.

Rape whistle

 

[Mick]

If I've got guns and you don't why would I need to barter?

You have a criminal mentality.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You have a criminal mentality.

Or he’s asking a what if contingency question. I didn’t see him state he would take Luther’s resources.

Does Luth’s plan sound valid to you Mick?

 

[Orange_Crush]

If I've got guns and you don't why would I need to barter?

Ouch. Reality crashes in.

You have a criminal mentality.

This is a *htf scenario?

I think a lot of people would have such a mentality if resources were scarce. My kid is starving, and you have food? My wife is dying and you have meds?

The line between "criminal" and "fear/desperation" would become blurred for most.

(I hope it wouldn't for me and mine. I'd like to think we could forge some sort of mutually beneficial small-scale culture. But I think hogg's point is that loother's plan relies on a part of human nature which history shows to be unreliable. IOW, I think hogg was responding from potential reality and pragmatism as opposed to his own, current base responses.)

 

[Orange_Crush]

Funny story... Back in the days leading up to Y2K, with all of the apocalyptic expectations, I remember listening to a national call-in radio show.

One guy called in and said, "To get through the societal collapse, I'm investing in real gold!"

The radio host calmly responded. "Great idea! I'm investing in lead. Once society collapses, I'll have my lead and your gold."

lol

Seems somehow pertinent to loother's potential plans for post-apocalyptic success.

 

[Mick]

Or he’s asking a what if contingency question. I didn’t see him state he would take Luther’s resources.

Does Luth’s plan sound valid to you Mick?

I don't think he is worried about it and probably lives a stress free life. Beans and rice.

 

[hndog609]

That's why I said if you're not loading up on penicillin and super antibiotics, you're not really preparing yourself anyway. I may barter some meds for guns if need be.

While I can do nothing but endorse the idea of including medications in one's emergency supplies you do know pretty much all the big pandemic risks are viral, right?

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't think he is worried about it and probably lives a stress free life. Beans and rice.

Got it. You think his plan is utter crap too 👍

 

[hog88]

You have a criminal mentality.

I wouldn’t say that at all but like I’ve said in some of the conversations about AnCap, you don’t want it because of people like me.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I wouldn’t say that at all but like I’ve said in some of the conversations about AnCap, you don’t want it because of people like me.

If we're talking societal collapse, or anarchy, the real question about his accusation of 'criminal mindset' is... "Would the concept of 'criminal' even have any meaning at all?"

 

[hog88]

If we're talking societal collapse, or anarchy, the real question about his accusation of 'criminal mindset' is... "Would the concept of 'criminal' even have any meaning at all?"

I think it would.

 

[Mick]

I think it would.

You know I'm just messing around.

 

[luthervol]

If I've got guns and you don't why would I need to barter?

I thought gun owners were as a group some of the most law abiding citizens we have. Are you saying that's not the case? When the power grids go down, the zombies rise, Honduras invades, and the pandemic spreads, are gun owners going to immediately become lawless?,

Anyway, I'm planning on having protection provided by some of my gun toting friends in exchange for some of my meds.

 

[Squints]

I thought gun owners were as a group some of the most law abiding citizens we have. Are you saying that's not the case? When the power grids go down, the zombies rise, Honduras invades, and the pandemic spreads, are gun owners going to immediately become lawless?,

Anyway, I'm planning on having protection provided by some of my gun toting friends in exchange for some of my meds.

Zombiecillin has not been approved by the FDA.

 

[luthervol]

Zombiecillin has not been approved by the FDA.

I've got the experimental trial samples from my neighbor who works at the CDC.

 

[SLICKYINC]

I've got the experimental trial samples from my neighbor who works at the CDC.

So really you have nothing to barter, you're just a middle man.

 

[BeecherVol]

I thought gun owners were as a group some of the most law abiding citizens we have. Are you saying that's not the case? When the power grids go down, the zombies rise, Honduras invades, and the pandemic spreads, are gun owners going to immediately become lawless?,

Anyway, I'm planning on having protection provided by some of my gun toting friends in exchange for some of my meds.

So you re screwed?

 

[hndog609]

So really you have nothing to barter, you're just a middle man.

It's worse than that...his guy died in the season 1 finale. Luth's screwed.

 

[luthervol]

So really you have nothing to barter, you're just a middle man.

I don't manufacture and I don't sell, so yea, kind of a middle man.

 

[hog88]

I thought gun owners were as a group some of the most law abiding citizens we have. Are you saying that's not the case? When the power grids go down, the zombies rise, Honduras invades, and the pandemic spreads, are gun owners going to immediately become lawless?,

Anyway, I'm planning on having protection provided by some of my gun toting friends in exchange for some of my meds.

In the absence of enforcement is there such a thing? I remember someone saying "There is no controlling legal authority that says this was in violation of law."

Again, why would they have to provide you anything and not just take it?

 

[Mick]

I don't manufacture and I don't sell, so yea, kind of a middle man.

Genius plan. Have the drug addicts do your dirty work for you. Going to go all Breaking Bad to survive.

 

[midnight orange]

The lesson on items needed was not needed.
My question is specifically, what eventualities are you preparing for and how likely do you think each is to occur?

It's unlikely that your house will burn to the ground. But you still carry insurance because the consequences could be ruiness. It's just insurance that you hope you never need.