Russia and the NRA

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carlos86 said:
I’m still trying to figure out why the NRA a supposed pro gun rights organization would want anything to do with Russia a gun control state.
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Substitute New York for Russia and ask yourself the same question.
 
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Paul Erickson, the political operative who was dating alleged Russian spy Maria Butina, has been indicted on wire fraud and money laundering charges, the US attorney in South Dakota announced on Wednesday.
 
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I don’t think Trump and Putin hooked up to take down Hillary. But make no mistake Putin wanted Hillary regulated to the trash heap of history. And she should be but not bc Putin has hurt feelings.
 
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volfanhill said:
I don’t think Trump and Putin hooked up to take down Hillary. But make no mistake Putin wanted Hillary regulated to the trash heap of history. And she should be but not bc Putin has hurt feelings.
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You know what the funny thing might be...

What if this whole Russian collusion talk along with the dossier is the ultimate Putin troll job on the Democrats and Hillary? This about where Steel got his info. Russian oligarchs. Who does Putin have in his back pocket...

Russian oligarchs.

Who paid for that info?

Democrats. Which had Hillary as their front runner.

Putin can completely mind-**** anyone he wants to. And such a mind-**** would be totally in line with screwing with your global adversaries. Make them overreact to something that completely isn't there and chuckle at them as they look for evidence that doesn't exist. All while your target population tears themselves apart politically.

Before anyone says I'm crazy, just think of how insane the DNC has gotten over the whole thing.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You know what the funny thing might be...

What if this whole Russian collusion talk along with the dossier is the ultimate Putin troll job on the Democrats and Hillary? This about where Steel got his info. Russian oligarchs. Who does Putin have in his back pocket...

Russian oligarchs.

Who paid for that info?

Democrats. Which had Hillary as their front runner.

Putin can completely mind-**** anyone he wants to. And such a mind-**** would be totally in line with screwing with your global adversaries. Make them overreact to something that completely isn't there and chuckle at them as they look for evidence that doesn't exist. All while your target population tears themselves apart politically.

Before anyone says I'm crazy, just think of how insane the DNC has gotten over the whole thing.
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Putin's goal (per our intelligence community) is to sow discord and distrust in our political institutions. If the Trump collusion thing is true and our system catches him that does't accomplish the goal. However, if it is a muddled bunch of investigations into something that didn't happen well you get what we are currently experiencing. Putin is getting exactly what he wanted. Hell, he already got DOJ/FBI appointees to plan a coup under the guise of the 25th!
 
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volinbham said:
Putin's goal (per our intelligence community) is to sow discord and distrust in our political institutions. If the Trump collusion thing is true and our system catches him that does't accomplish the goal. However, if it is a muddled bunch of investigations into something that didn't happen well you get what we are currently experiencing. Putin is getting exactly what he wanted. Hell, he already got DOJ/FBI appointees to plan a coup under the guise of the 25th!
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Yep. Destroy your adversaries from the inside out.
 
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Russian operative Maria Butina sentenced to 18 months in prison
Maria Butina, the Russian operative who used her NRA activism to illegally infiltrate conservative political circles, was sentenced to 18 months in prison by a federal judge on Friday.
"She was doing this under the direction of a Russian official ... at a time that Russia was looking to interfere with the U.S. political process," the judge said.
“This was no simple misunderstanding by an overeager foreign student," she said.
Butina admitted to working with her Republican operative boyfriend Paul Erickson — identified in court papers as "U.S. Person 1" — at the behest of a Russian official in order "to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over U.S. politics … for the benefit of the Russian Federation," according to court papers.
 
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Mick said:
Russian operative Maria Butina sentenced to 18 months in prison
Maria Butina, the Russian operative who used her NRA activism to illegally infiltrate conservative political circles, was sentenced to 18 months in prison by a federal judge on Friday.
"She was doing this under the direction of a Russian official ... at a time that Russia was looking to interfere with the U.S. political process," the judge said.
“This was no simple misunderstanding by an overeager foreign student," she said.
Butina admitted to working with her Republican operative boyfriend Paul Erickson — identified in court papers as "U.S. Person 1" — at the behest of a Russian official in order "to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over U.S. politics … for the benefit of the Russian Federation," according to court papers.
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Sounds like a slap on the wrist. I wonder what kind of sentence a US operative in Russia would get for a similar crime?
 
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