Russia Blocks Kerch Strait

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carlos86 said:
Russian hackers are sending out fake reserve call up text messages in Poland.

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Also Belarus. Putin is meeting with the Russian national security council to discuss "energy security" but concerning nonetheless.



Sketchy source but Russia beating the war drums.
Also Ukraine is still being denied access to Azov.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Is there anything the people of Russia could really do about it? Would any potential threats to Putin just get offed?
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Civil unrest carried out over a long period of time would get him out of office. It certainly wouldn't be easy, it would take a long time, and a lot of people would die in the process, but it is possible.

I'm curious to see what his exit strategy is. He could always get the Constitution changed and be eligible to serve another term starting in 2024, but he's also 66 years old. He'll be 72 in 2024 and 78 at the end of the term beginning in 2024. I'm sure he's thinking of a day when he can leave his role as Head of State and but keep himself in a position to keep all the money he's effectively stolen, all the trappings of power, and prevent other people in the government from coming after him when he's gone.
 
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05_never_again said:
Civil unrest carried out over a long period of time would get him out of office. It certainly wouldn't be easy, it would take a long time, and a lot of people would die in the process, but it is possible.

I'm curious to see what his exit strategy is. He could always get the Constitution changed and be eligible to serve another term starting in 2024, but he's also 66 years old. He'll be 72 in 2024 and 78 at the end of the term beginning in 2024. I'm sure he's thinking of a day when he can leave his role as Head of State and but keep himself in a position to keep all the money he's effectively stolen, all the trappings of power, and prevent other people in the government from coming after him when he's gone.
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He’s served as head of state one whole year longer than Angela Merkel and her “democratic” Germany...

Imagine a man so popular he gets elected President 4 times?! Damn, FDR would roll over in his grave...
 
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Pacer92 said:
He’s served as head of state one whole year longer than Angela Merkel and her “democratic” Germany...

Imagine a man so popular he gets elected President 4 times?! Damn, FDR would roll over in his grave...
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There have been reported irregularities in their elections, and he routinely gets 60-75% of the vote in a 3 or 4 person race. The Russian Duma is a "legislative body" that Putin and his party totally control. Merkel's party, in a parliamentary system, hasn't even approached 50% of the vote in any election. It's a little bit different.

I am one to draw equivalencies between "bad" things that we criticize other countries for but we have something similar here, but elections isn't one of them.

If you're looking for an equivalency, the ties between Russian oligarchs and their corporations and their government are similar to ties between American corporations and our government - the Russians are just more brazen about it. Here we call it "lobbying," favors are traded, and there's a legal structure around it. Over there, they just show up with guns and take the money, and if you resist they throw you in jail or kill you.
 
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05_never_again said:
There have been reported irregularities in their elections, and he routinely gets 60-75% of the vote in a 3 or 4 person race. The Russian Duma is a "legislative body" that Putin and his party totally control. Merkel's party, in a parliamentary system, hasn't even approached 50% of the vote in any election. It's a little bit different.

I am one to draw equivalencies between "bad" things that we criticize other countries for but we have something similar here, but elections isn't one of them.

If you're looking for an equivalency, the ties between Russian oligarchs and their corporations and their government are similar to ties between American corporations and our government - the Russians are just more brazen about it. Here we call it "lobbying," favors are traded, and there's a legal structure around it. Over there, they just show up with guns and take the money, and if you resist they throw you in jail or kill you.
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You don’t think there are American “oligarchs”?! Lobbyists have the power in most every country, including this one....just ask AIPAC and the GROTESQUE amount of money that is given to Israel every year...

Difference being....we are devoting our money and resources to ventures that aid in a globalist future...Putin devotes himself to protecting a Russian future...
 
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Screen shot of the marine tracker showing the Kerch strait. It shows Ukrainian ships on either side are being blocked from traveling by the Russian navy. Putin has effectively annexed the Azov sea which impacts the fragile Ukrainian economy.
 
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Burhead said:
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Screen shot of the marine tracker showing the Kerch strait. It shows Ukrainian ships on either side are being blocked from traveling by the Russian navy. Putin has effectively annexed the Azov sea which impacts the fragile Ukrainian economy.
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This looks like a screenshot from a game of “Battleship”...

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Pretty good article here. @Pacer92

Russia-Ukraine Kerch Strait incident tests Donald Trump, U.S. power

“What scares Vladimir Putin the most is for sure democracy, especially the prospect of democracy in the former Soviet Union,” said Mr. Hoffman. “Ukraine, a nation with a sizable Russian-speaking population and a goal of joining the EU and NATO, is perceived by Putin as an existential threat.”

Daniel Twining, president of the International Republican Institute, a nonprofit advocating democracy around the world, agreed. “The greatest threat to [Mr. Putin‘s] rule is a successful Ukrainian democracy,” Mr. Twining said in an interview Tuesday. “Ukraine is the greatest danger because Ukrainians share Russian culture, civilization and heritage.

“Putin’s great nightmare is that it happens at home,” said Mr. Twining. “Most countries would say that having successful, strong democracies on their borders would be a source of strength. The Russian calculation is the opposite. There’s something in Russian imperial thinking — which Putin embodies — which is [that] Russia has to control and subvert its neighbors and not allow them to be completely sovereign and make their own policy choices.”

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Putin is wanting to Annex the entirety of Ukraine. The man has a large set of stones on him, I will give him that.
 
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Pacer92 said:
You don’t think there are American “oligarchs”?! Lobbyists have the power in most every country, including this one....just ask AIPAC and the GROTESQUE amount of money that is given to Israel every year...

Difference being....we are devoting our money and resources to ventures that aid in a globalist future...Putin devotes himself to protecting a Russian future...
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You're arguing, but agreeing with me. I said there are American oligarchs. They are involved in a corruption campaign to advance American interests, the Russians are involved in a corruption campaign to advance their interests.
 
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So this wasn't previously known but Su-30 and Ka-52 aircraft engaged the Ukrainian ships to. Poroshenko is also implementing restrictions on Russians banking in Ukraine only Ukrainian citizen will be allowed to cross into the administrative border to Russian Crimea.

 
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C/O said:
Putin is wanting to Annex the entirety of Ukraine. The man has a large set of stones on him, I will give him that.
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I don't think he wants to annex all of Ukraine. He wants to set up the situation so that he influences what goes on there and he continues to have access to their Black Sea Fleet port in Sevastopol. That's why this has been a frozen conflict for the last couple of years. Putin is keeping his options open.
 
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Burhead said:
So this wasn't previously known but Su-30 and Ka-52 aircraft engaged the Ukrainian ships to. Poroshenko is also implementing restrictions on Russians banking in Ukraine only Ukrainian citizen will be allowed to cross into the administrative border to Russian Crimea.

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This was known and reported on the Russian side from the onset....planes were dispatched during the event..
 
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