Russia Blocks Kerch Strait

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NorthDallas40 said:
No no no. You commie bastards have been doing this for so long that you confuse loathing and disgust as anger. They all three tend to come together towards you so I guess it’s understandable that you can no longer tell the difference.
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Lol..
 
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Velo Vol said:
In your world Ukraine provokes war merely by existing as a free state.
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No one is against Ukrainian sovereignty. Yanukovich, the former democratically president, exercised national sovereignty by not joining the EU and NATO and the US State Dept got involved. If anything, the West has shown they do not respect the rights of nation states.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Putin is a peace loving liberal and ole Mother Russia dint do nuffin... this is all totally taken out of context with the true nature of the non expansionist peace loving Russian leadership. 🙄
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Putin isn't an expansionist. NATO are the West are the ones putting armaments around Russia's border and stirring up nonsense.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Could this also be a reason the US orchestrated a coup of the Ukrainian government?! Not only would they gain in this way...but, also by denying the Russians of Sevastopol.....
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These people really do act like Crimea hasn't been a part of Russia for as long as the US has existed. Sevastopol is as Russian as St. Petersburg.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Holy non sequitor Hell!

The US had zero control over Ukraine’s oil and gas reserves. They were a means to energy independence from Russia as well as a cash vehicle for export to Europe, Germany specifically. And Russia couldn’t let that stand and TOOK THEM BY FORCE!

Knock off your BS narrative on this. Zero people outside of RT-Sputnik are buying it!
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Do you know what a non sequitur is? You've used that at least twice in the last several days when it didn't apply in either case.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Holy non sequitor Hell!

The US had zero control over Ukraine’s oil and gas reserves. They were a means to energy independence from Russia as well as a cash vehicle for export to Europe, Germany specifically. And Russia couldn’t let that stand and TOOK THEM BY FORCE!

Knock off your BS narrative on this. Zero people outside of RT-Sputnik are buying it!
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The Ukrainians were not aiming for energy independence... they were aiming for energy welfare from Russia, if anything. The owed Russia $2 billion gas tab and were siphoning off the gas that was passing through their country that was serving Western Europe.
 
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Pacer92 said:
You tell me? If you bother to hear both sides, from the interrogations...they admitted that they were on the ships to make sure the provocation was carried out as planned...

Militarize? The same reason we would if Chinese boats refused to stop after being warned multiple times in our territorial waters around Hawaii...
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Hell, they would do if Chinese ships were in the South China Sea probably...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Do you know what a non sequitur is? You've used that at least twice in the last several days when it didn't apply in either case.
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Yeah I do and no I didn’t.

As for Putin not being an expansionist... 🙄

He expanded right into the Ukrainian oil and gas reserves in the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The Ukrainians were not aiming for energy independence... they were aiming for energy welfare from Russia, if anything. The owed Russia $2 billion gas tab and were siphoning off the gas that was passing through their country that was serving Western Europe.
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They were in the process of accessing the reserves in the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea. When Russia over ran Crimea they commandeered at least two full up drilling rigs. Ukraine lost reserves estimated in the Trillions as a result of this.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
These people really do act like Crimea hasn't been a part of Russia for as long as the US has existed. Sevastopol is as Russian as St. Petersburg.
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Ah ok. So you’re on board with Pacers “the end justifies the means” narrative. I thought you were a live and let live guy Ras? So Russia over running Crimea is like the anthesis of that.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
They were in the process of accessing the reserves in the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea. When Russia over ran Crimea they commandeered at least two full up drilling rigs. Ukraine lost reserves estimated in the Trillions as a result of this.
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Ukraine didn't lose jack. After the Western coup of Ukraine, the West flooded Ukraine with a bunch of western corporate jackals. Ukraine was too busy siphoning gas from the pipelines before Feb 2014.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Ukraine didn't lose jack. After the Western coup of Ukraine, the West flooded Ukraine with a bunch of western corporate jackals. Ukraine was too busy siphoning gas from the pipelines before Feb 2014.
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BS. The undeveloped reserves that were within their territorial waters are no longer within their territorial waters as a direct result of Russian occupation and annexation. You cannot state otherwise and it not be a falsehood.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Putin isn't an expansionist. NATO are the West are the ones putting armaments around Russia's border and stirring up nonsense.
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Georgia, Crimea, Moldova, or wherever that other pocket is. whatever oblasts in Eastern Ukraine, Sea of Azov. yeah not expansionist at all.

for being a guy not interested in territory he has actually grabbed land.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Seems awful coincidental and dramatic to be using it AFTER the fact...not to mention the intelligence officers onboard...

How often is the CIA onboard our gunboats?
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I'm sure there are probably dozens of military intelligence personnel assigned to US Navy ships. Why are intelligence agents onboard warships out of place? Also source on this please? I've only heard there were naval personnel on these boats.
 
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Velo Vol said:
But nowhere near large enough to control the government, as @Pacer92 would have one believe.
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Andriy Parubiy, speaker of the Rada in Ukraine, formed two neo-nazi parties, and recently praised Hitler in parliament for being the “torchbearer of democracy”....

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Burhead said:
I'm sure there are probably dozens of military intelligence personnel assigned to US Navy ships. Why are intelligence agents onboard warships out of place? Also source on this please? I've only heard there were naval personnel on these boats.
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There are plenty of links...Ukraine itself has admitted such...

Seems odd that State security agents were on these tiny boats that were carrying out their duty...while following all protocol...
 
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