Russia brings the fight to ISIS in Syria!!!

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I wonder how these corridors will work, and what happens to the people using them. but again it seems a case of Russia and Syria saying they are about to demolish the city. no way this ends clean.
 
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Russian jets are currently razing Aleppo to the ground. They most likely purposely destroyed a UN aid convoy a month ago, and this guy is concerned about the ******n Belgians!

The Belgians!
 
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volprof said:
Russian jets are currently razing Aleppo to the ground. They most likely purposely destroyed a UN aid convoy a month ago, and this guy is concerned about the ******n Belgians!

The Belgians!
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I thought the corridors still had another 2 days of being open before the chopping block?
 
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i was listening to a podcast and syria. the host was talking about how this war is not a civil war but a war about oil pipelines. russia, iran, saudis all would like to be able to run a pipe line through syria. it was a very insightful podcast.
 
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volprof said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I know what they've said; I'm saying, however, that it isn't true. Nothing they say matters.
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I guess I am just saying that I said the same thing you did earlier. our comrade friends never had an answer to those questions and i think that kinda reflects the reality you pointed out.
 
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Pacer92 said:
The only reality is that civilians and unarmed terrorist are being allowed to leave Aleppo...doesn't really matter how...

https://southfront.org/unarmed-terrorists-wounded-people-leave-eastern-districts-of-aleppo/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58087e9ec361884e288b45c1/amp?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.tele...itarian-corridors-as-patchy-aleppo-cease/amp/

And btw...you make an attempt at nuetrality on ocassion. Don't submit to conditioned, angry posters...
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this kinda confirms what I was thinking. It was like Bama suspending that one player for the first half vs Kentucky. looks good in the press but doesn't really change anything.

The footage could not be verified but none of the livestreams shown by the Russian Ministry of Defence showed any sign of either rebel fighters or civilians taking up the regime offer to leave the eastern part of the city.

Al-Mayadeen, a Lebanese news channel that supports the Syrian regime, reported that civilians in east Aleppo were being blocked from leaving by gunmen from Jabhet Fatah al-Sham, the al-Qaeda-linked group formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra, and other Islamist groups.

The regime has often said that the roughly 275,000 civilians in east Aleppo are effectively being held hostage by Islamists but residents in the besieged eastern part of the city deny that is the case.
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and it sounds like they are only going to be open for a day, not the five we were hearing earlier. I feel bad for what is about to happen.

and I would maintain the how matters a whole heck of a lot. But at least the Russians are giving them somewhat of a chance.

and I would like to point out the discrepancy in Russia's early talk about using guided munitions only to take out ISIS and how that would easy enough. yet here they are about to systematically demolish a city like we haven't seen since WWII (and yes that includes actions by the US)

I have been saying since the beginning this is a mess and I wish we had never taken part. just because these half measures don't do much
 
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Too bad Russia can't see that a prosperous, democratic Syria would be much better for Russia's oil and gas exports than a destroyed, broken, and enslaved one. Probably only a small number of Russians actually want this, and I'm sure no one knows why Russian policy seems to be interested in tipping the world towards war at this point.
 
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LouderVol said:
this kinda confirms what I was thinking. It was like Bama suspending that one player for the first half vs Kentucky. looks good in the press but doesn't really change anything.



and it sounds like they are only going to be open for a day, not the five we were hearing earlier. I feel bad for what is about to happen.

and I would maintain the how matters a whole heck of a lot. But at least the Russians are giving them somewhat of a chance.

and I would like to point out the discrepancy in Russia's early talk about using guided munitions only to take out ISIS and how that would easy enough. yet here they are about to systematically demolish a city like we haven't seen since WWII (and yes that includes actions by the US)

I have been saying since the beginning this is a mess and I wish we had never taken part. just because these half measures don't do much
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There was attempt of a humanitarian corridor in several places coming out of Aleppo. Looks like it was stymied by terrorist for the most part...

I agree this isn't easy. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation...

I read somewhere that the majority of civilians had left weeks ago...up to 250k...but there is still roughly 10% of that left in Aleppo...

https://southfront.org/humanitarian-pause-failed-almost-no-one-left-eastern-aleppo/
 
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Pacer92 said:
There was attempt of a humanitarian corridor in several places coming out of Aleppo. Looks like it was stymied by terrorist for the most part...

I agree this isn't easy. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation...

I read somewhere that the majority of civilians had left weeks ago...up to 250k...but there is still roughly 10% of that left in Aleppo...

https://southfront.org/humanitarian-pause-failed-almost-no-one-left-eastern-aleppo/
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I think there is a lot more than 25,000 people still there.
 
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jvol1 said:
Too bad Russia can't see that a prosperous, democratic Syria would be much better for Russia's oil and gas exports than a destroyed, broken, and enslaved one. Probably only a small number of Russians actually want this, and I'm sure no one knows why Russian policy seems to be interested in tipping the world towards war at this point.
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It was prosperous and democratic country before this war, that was triggered by the globalist regime change agenda. Another Russian friendly nation purposely targeted with falsifications and propaganda...

It's amazing to me how Americans can't or refuse to see this fact..
 
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Pacer92 said:
It was prosperous and democratic country before this war, that was triggered by the globalist regime change agenda. Another Russian friendly nation purposely targeted with falsifications and propaganda...

It's amazing to me how Americans can't or refuse to see this fact..
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you know there was a civil war going on long before any foreign power got involved right?

Syria started having issues in 2011. at the time they were going through a huge drought and before had been a major down turn in their economy. add to that the less than humanitarian & democratic actions by Assad during that time.

Syria GDP | 1960-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Almost 18,000 died in Syria's prisons: Amnesty - News from Al Jazeera

Syria had every little thing going for a revolution at the time it happened. its not like we stepped into stable country killed a leader and left; this was all internal strife until Assad started making open calls for help.
 
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LouderVol said:
you know there was a civil war going on long before any foreign power got involved right?

Syria started having issues in 2011. at the time they were going through a huge drought and before had been a major down turn in their economy. add to that the less than humanitarian & democratic actions by Assad during that time.

Syria GDP | 1960-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Almost 18,000 died in Syria's prisons: Amnesty - News from Al Jazeera

Syria had every little thing going for a revolution at the time it happened. its not like we stepped into stable country killed a leader and left; this was all internal strife until Assad started making open calls for help.
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Just because it goes back a long time doesn't mean a foreign power wasn't involved. The Arab Spring, supported by the Muslim Brotherhood, was full speed by 2010. You can usually tell if we support or oppose a coups by how quickly we recognize the new government.

Egypt - Morsi (Muslim Brotherhood) was elected in June 2012, by the end of June the US was seeking to "expand" relations with the Muslim Brotherhood. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-expand-relations-with-muslim-brotherhood/2011/06/30/AGVgppsH_story.html. Morsi was so bad the Egyptian Army had to take over so he couldn't establish an Islamic government.

Libya - Qaddafi was deposed in 2011 by the Muslim Brotherhood. That probably doesn't happen without NATOs help. Shortly after there were reports we were running weapons from Libya to Syria culminating in the Benghazi attack.

Clinton's own emails state Qatar and Saudi (our allies) are funding ISIS. She should know, her right hand seems to have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

We're talking about 3 of the secular, quasi democracies with relatively high standards of living in the Muslim world. Why would we not oppose them being overthrown by an organization that wants to install an Islamist government?
 
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LouderVol said:
I guess I am just saying that I said the same thing you did earlier. our comrade friends never had an answer to those questions and i think that kinda reflects the reality you pointed out.
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Gotcha. Sorry for the miscommunication.
 
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Syria a democratic and prosperous country before the war?

The mindless propaganda from our resident Kremlin allies never ceases to amaze.

I can't understand being that enslaved to a foreign nation.

The audacity to even call yourself an "American"! Just shameful.
 
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