Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility

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#78
Pacer92 said:
Because you and Lloyd say so?! That’s really amusing…

Its about to get ugly for Zelensky and Ukraine..
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No clown boi. Because pretty much all of western intelligence has said so and ISIS-K openly and proudly claimed it. And I know you really believe you have, but you’ve offered nothing of substance to counter it. Me saying western intelligence should trigger an estrogen laden rant in your next reply so I eagerly await it!
 
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#82
Pacer92 said:
We know they’re a western/Mossad conception.

The only time they ever hit Israel with anything…they claimed it was by mistake and apologized immediately after..
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Lmao. Blaming hardline muzzie terrorists and their attacks on the Jews is so batsheit crazy on its face that I am not even gonna make fun of it.

Anything goes wrong/makes Russia look bad and its automatically:

Capitalist US bastards
Imperialist US bastards
Israel
Those dirty Zionists
Mossad
The Jews
Those filthy American pigs
The Jews. Gotta be the Jews.
OR
" Russia meant to do that."

Am I doing it right? I want a check too. Bidenomics killing me.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Anything goes wrong/makes Russia look bad and its automatically:

Capitalist US bastards
Imperialist US bastards
Israel
Those dirty Zionists
Mossad
The Jews
Those filthy American pigs
The Jews. Gotta be the Jews.
OR
" Russia meant to do that."
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OK, I'm making notes.

marcusluvsvols said:
Am I doing it right? I want a check too. Bidenomics killing me.
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One must suffer to ascend.
 
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#87
theFallGuy said:
www.theguardian.com

New Islamic State videos back claim it carried out Moscow concert hall attack

Footage of gunmen reinforces terror group’s claim to have masterminded worst terror attack on Russia in two decades
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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@Pacer92 i realize this is no where near as concrete as an unsubstantiated tweet by two whack job rando conspiracy theorists but this is the actual kind of stuff most of the rest of us call “evidence” and what you’d also see in a place like a court of law to bank a claim 😂
 
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So let’s see if I get this. The CIA used a sham ISIS mullah to activate zealots in Russia to commit terror and then had Ukraine open their borders to facilitate their (failed) escape? Oh and maybe CIA liaisons with mossad to create the mullah and get resources for the attack.

Not an entirely crazy theory, sadly but Im sure if anyone besides ISIS sponsored, they scrubbed their fingerprints because that could cause a major war. ISIS is a rent a terrorist org these days so it could well be that they are being used to cover someone else’s tracks.
 
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C/O said:
Islamic State Khorasan (Isis-K), a regional affiliate of the Islamic State (Isis) wider movement. Jihadist terrorist movements have long posed a serious threat to Russia, and Isis-K has taken over from Chechen rebels as the perpetrators of the most serious attacks there, including the bombing of the St Petersburg metro in 2017, which left 15 dead.


Largely based in Afghanistan and central Asia, Isis-K has become increasingly focused on Russia, which it sees as equivalent to the US in its “hatred” for Islam. It cites Russia’s 2015 intervention in Syria in support of the Assad regime against, among others, Isis fighters, as well as its support for central Asian governments opposed to Isis.


Although these incidents rarely get much coverage in the West, Isis-K has been behind a series of smaller-scale plots, including an attempt earlier this month to attack a synagogue in the Kaluga region southwest of Moscow. This was foiled by the Federal Security Service (FSB).
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All of these "ISIS" spinoff organizations are supported and trained by The West/US. They are convenient proxies that are used to destabilize a region or to provoke actions by Russia or China. The US fought side-by-side with ISIS and the PKK against Assad in Syria, they sent an ISIS spinoff to The Philippines to disrupt Duterte, and they used ISIS-K in Afghanistan in 2021 to fight against The Taliban. The groups that make up ISIS-K are remnants of fighters from Central Asia and the Caucuses that The West/US used two decades ago in Chechnya to destabilize Russia's perimeters and in 2015 were used to disrupt Russia's efforts in Syria. And these Central Asian fighters have also tried to destabilize China's Xinjiang Province with an insurgency there, which The West was able to label as China trying to genocide Uyghurs. There is also a group of these fighters (mostly Chechen) that are headquartered in Denmark that have been fighting in Ukraine since 2014... and there were teamed up with The Right Sektor.
 
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#91
Rasputin_Vol said:
All of these "ISIS" spinoff organizations are supported and trained by The West/US. They are convenient proxies that are used to destabilize a region or to provoke actions by Russia or China. The US fought side-by-side with ISIS and the PKK against Assad in Syria, they sent an ISIS spinoff to The Philippines to disrupt Duterte, and they used ISIS-K in Afghanistan in 2021 to fight against The Taliban. The groups that make up ISIS-K are remnants of fighters from Central Asia and the Caucuses that The West/US used two decades ago in Chechnya to destabilize Russia's perimeters and in 2015 were used to disrupt Russia's efforts in Syria. And these Central Asian fighters have also tried to destabilize China's Xinjiang Province with an insurgency there, which The West was able to label as China trying to genocide Uyghurs. There is also a group of these fighters (mostly Chechen) that are headquartered in Denmark that have been fighting in Ukraine since 2014... and there were teamed up with The Right Sektor.
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ISIS is sponsored by the US?

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Rasputin_Vol said:
All of these "ISIS" spinoff organizations are supported and trained by The West/US. They are convenient proxies that are used to destabilize a region or to provoke actions by Russia or China. The US fought side-by-side with ISIS and the PKK against Assad in Syria, they sent an ISIS spinoff to The Philippines to disrupt Duterte, and they used ISIS-K in Afghanistan in 2021 to fight against The Taliban. The groups that make up ISIS-K are remnants of fighters from Central Asia and the Caucuses that The West/US used two decades ago in Chechnya to destabilize Russia's perimeters and in 2015 were used to disrupt Russia's efforts in Syria. And these Central Asian fighters have also tried to destabilize China's Xinjiang Province with an insurgency there, which The West was able to label as China trying to genocide Uyghurs. There is also a group of these fighters (mostly Chechen) that are headquartered in Denmark that have been fighting in Ukraine since 2014... and there were teamed up with The Right Sektor.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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#93
Gandalf said:
Not an entirely crazy theory, sadly
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It is certainly well within the realm of possibility. Not something that can be so easily dismissed. And I noticed you said "sadly"... This is the state of affairs when it comes to our foreign policy.

Gandalf said:
but Im sure if anyone besides ISIS sponsored, they scrubbed their fingerprints because that could cause a major war.
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The people running our country and our intelligence agencies are not as good as their post-WWII ancestors. These people are incompetent.

Gandalf said:
ISIS is a rent a terrorist org these days so it could well be that they are being used to cover someone else’s tracks.
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They're just the glove over the iron fist.
 
#99
#99
Vol8188 said:
Idk if I’ve ever seen anyone taken out of context so badly in my life.

Actual quote from trump regarding that claim “I was being sarcastic”.

He stating Obama’s weak policies gave rise to ISIS
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The Red Line and the Rat Line Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels

The full extent of US co-operation with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar in assisting the rebel opposition in Syria has yet to come to light. The Obama administration has never publicly admitted to its role in creating what the CIA calls a ‘rat line’, a back channel highway into Syria. The rat line, authorised in early 2012, was used to funnel weapons and ammunition from Libya via southern Turkey and across the Syrian border to the opposition. Many of those in Syria who ultimately received the weapons were jihadists, some of them affiliated with al-Qaida. (The DNI spokesperson said: ‘The idea that the United States was providing weapons from Libya to anyone is false.’)

HILLARY CLINTON ACKNOWLEDGES SAUDI TERROR FINANCING IN HACKED EMAIL, HINTING AT TOUGHER APPROACH

“… we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”
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