Sampson coming back?

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Maybe true. But ... how much money does a 2nd round draftee RB get? How much NIL money does he get right now? I really don't know.

The short answer is: A LOT.

It's absolutely crazy to think Sampson grades out to go in the second round or so and stays. We can't go near NFL money nor the retirement package in 3 years if he sticks.

People are completely crazy or ignorant of the kind of money involved if he has a good draft position.

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[Volosaurus rex]

I'm the last guy to say I understand how the NFL draft works but Mel Kiper doesn't even have Dylan in his top 10 RB's in this years draft. No RB went in the first round last year and I think only one, maybe two went in the 2nd. He's probably a low 3rd or 4th round pick at best.

The criteria employed by so-called draft analysts, not to mention Heisman voters, are becoming more and more difficult to fathom. There wasn't a single SEC player that finished in the top 10 in Heistman voting. The record-breaking season that Dylan posted was against the best competition in the country. The same cannot be said for the quarterbacks, running backs, and receivers ranked in this latest miscarriage of justice in college football.

 

[Vol865]

I know if I'm a RB who has been battling through bumps and bruises and had the year Sampson has, I'm not taking the risk of coming back and getting hurt over a contract.

 

[UTK]

It may sound absurd at first, and I personally think he goes, but a fat NIL check to run it back at a he place he genuinely enjoys being, never say never.

 

[thehardknoxlife]

Why, if he doesn't have as good of a season as this year then his stock hits the skids. I would like for him to return as bad as you but what would you do if you set the bar as high as he has?

It's not about his draft grade. It's about money. Rookie contracts mostly don't have that much guaranteed money, even with high draft grades. Only the first rounders stand to make enormous amounts. I have no idea how much he's worth in college NIL money, but he's probably only worth 1 to 2 million per yr in the NFL on a rookie contract and that's not guaranteed. The NIL money will be guaranteed so if you can get 5 million for a single year. It's obvious what you should do. He could stand to make more in one year of college than he can on the four year rookie contract. Especially if he goes late. They are usually near league minimum in late rounds.

I think a lot of you guys think NFL = millions upon millions. That's not really the case, especially rookies. They solved the problem of paying rookies a lot for no production a long time ago. I think mid 2000's IIRC. Sure they make a lot compare to a regular Joe but it's not the millions you guys have in your mind. Especially if they don't produce. Good example is Purdy. He's still near league minimum (under 1 mil yr) and he's a Superbowl starting QB. I'll also point out that NFL players have to pay tax in every state they play in. A 10 million guarantee is only worth 5 million roughly.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

He gone. And he should go. Next up.

 

[Sara Clark]

I have NO idea what he does. The era of NIL does indeed have an influence on whether folks declare. I would argue, less appealing to go into the NFL so quickly.

 

[CAVPUT]

I see a few threads here talking about the possibility of D Sampson coming back. What are you people smoking? Not my cigars, certainly.

I would be giddy and ecstatic of course but what makes you think this is even a remote possibility?

RB is such a hard position on the body and Sampson is like a railroad spike but he can only get so many years in the NFL. He needs to go get that money. I mean, what else is there left for him to prove here? He is already one of the greatest RBs in the history of TN.

He might return. Not sure what his value is in the NFL. Plus, it might explain the RBs leaving us for the porta. Or Lewis and Bishop are just that good?

 

[Zues1]

Chase your dream Dylan

 

[rocytop2624]

RBs aren't first rounders anymore, so you need to compare 3rd or 4th round NFL rookie contracts with no guarantees to the guaranteed NIL money. I'd bet the NIL money will be comparable if not more.

I honestly think he'll be back.

RBs are making a comeback.

 

[rocytop2624]

Maybe he knows he needs to improve on blocking and show he isn't the fumbling guy he showed lately. He also may want records and championships.

 

[UT97Vol]

I think most of the discussion has been his draft ranking & potential first NFL contract vs NIL for returning. Most also say that starting the clock towards his 2nd contract is still more important than whatever gain he might get on an another year of a lucrative NIL.

Except that most NFL running backs never make it that long. Tough decision to make. A good one to be in but a tough decision nonetheless

 

[YankeeVol]

RBs aren't first rounders anymore, so you need to compare 3rd or 4th round NFL rookie contracts with no guarantees to the guaranteed NIL money. I'd bet the NIL money will be comparable if not more.

I honestly think he'll be back.

A RB not being selected in the 1st has only occurred twice in the common draft era (since 1967). 2014 and 2022.

 

[hndog609]

The season isn't over so Sampson still has the opportunity to raise his stock and do it on the biggest stage.

Now having said the above as I type this I haven't seen anywhere that had Dylan higher than RB4 and the rest could go quite a bit lower. This is considered a deep class at the position and that makes it iffy if you aren't one of the big names.

Now even having said that we still have the combine which can make a difference* BUT that isn't until after one would have declared for the draft so despite it's ability to raise draft stock it can't be used to help decide about declaring in the first place.

*And that's not just the workouts. If a team really likes your interviews a player can absolutely jump others ahead "on paper".

 

[tngivem6]

NIL has changed things vs the NFL rookie contract.
Dsamp could get more for coming back one more year, then play a few more years in NFL.
NIL changes things.

 

[thehardknoxlife]

A RB not being selected in the 1st has only occurred twice in the common draft era (since 1967). 2014 and 2022.

That's irrelevant info but thanks. It's no secret that RBs aren't valued as high as they once were and was the point. They talk about it every draft day. Sampson is definitely not a 1st rounder. I don't even think Jeanty is projected in the first, I could be wrong.

 

[YankeeVol]

That's irrelevant info but thanks. It's no secret that RBs aren't valued as high as they once were and was the point. They talk about it every draft day. Sampson is definitely not a 1st rounder. I don't even think Jeanty is projected in the first, I could be wrong.

You literally said they aren't 1st rounders anymore. It's relevant, you're just wrong lol.

ESPN (Field Yates) and CBS has AJ going in the 1st to the Cowboys currently.

Jaylen Wright signed a 4 year, $4,780,020 contract as a 4th round pick. I'd say Sampson would go before the 4th.

 

[hndog609]

That's irrelevant info but thanks. It's no secret that RBs aren't valued as high as they once were and was the point. They talk about it every draft day. Sampson is definitely not a 1st rounder. I don't even think Jeanty is projected in the first, I could be wrong.

Jeanty is projected way high first. Right now the concensus is Dallas.

 

[Doctrippin]

I think most of the discussion has been his draft ranking & potential first NFL contract vs NIL for returning. Most also say that starting the clock towards his 2nd contract is still more important than whatever gain he might get on a another year of a lucrative NIL.

And years til you qualify for pension which is huge

 

[EastTNVol6240]

RBs aren't first rounders anymore, so you need to compare 3rd or 4th round NFL rookie contracts with no guarantees to the guaranteed NIL money. I'd bet the NIL money will be comparable if not more.

I honestly think he'll be back.

If he has the ability to see a few years into the future he won’t be. The goal for him being the life of the RB is short is the NFL second contract. He needs to get there and set himself for life. That NIL money is crumbs compared to being a successful RB in the NFL on your second contract.

 

[thehardknoxlife]

You literally said they aren't 1st rounders anymore. It's relevant, you're just wrong lol.

ESPN (Field Yates) and CBS has AJ going in the 1st to the Cowboys currently.

Jaylen Wright signed a 4 year, $4,780,020 contract as a 4th round pick. I'd say Sampson would go before the 4th.

I wasn't wrong. I was using RBs as a whole, not the best one in the class. I could re-word it but why bother.

So you confirmed what I said. That contract is worth 1.1 million a year roughly. After all the taxes he has to pay in every state he played in it's about half of that. So a 4 million NIL in Tennessee where there is not a state tax is worth almost double. Afaik NIL is only taxed in the state that is given.

Most RBs never get that big 2nd contract, especially small ones that don't pass block well.

 

[YankeeVol]

I wasn't wrong. I was using RBs as a whole, not the best one in the class. I could re-word it but why bother.

So you confirmed what I said. That contract is worth 1.1 million a year roughly. After all the taxes he has to pay in every state he played in it's about half of that. So a 4 million NIL in Tennessee where there is not a state tax is worth almost double.

Samspon isn't getting $4 mil to come back. He's not even in The Top 100 for NIL value.

 

[thehardknoxlife]

Samspon isn't getting $4 mil to come back. He's not even in The Top 100 for NIL value.

I just used it as an example and I said earlier I didn't know what he was worth in NIL, neither do you. That why he's shopping himself. I repeat, he could stand to make more in one year than he could on a mid to late rookie contract You're just arguing to be arguing.

 

[IUGradVol]

Unless you’re an elite prospect at RB, you aren’t getting drafted higher than the 3rd round in today’s NFL. At least from what I’ve seen in recent drafts…

 

[YankeeVol]

I just used it as an example and I said earlier I didn't know what he was worth in NIL, neither do you. I repeat, he could stand to make more in one year than he could on a mid to late rookie contract You're just arguing to be arguing.

Highly unlikely, but still not the point.