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#605
utvolpj said:
“Not everybody in the community–in the Hispanic and the African American community, particularly in rural areas that are distant and/or inner-city districts–know how to use–know-how to get online to determine how to get in line for that COVID vaccination at the Walgreens or at the particular store,”

The ID one is obvious
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Assume you're talking about this?

Fact Check-Fabricated Joe Biden tweet about minorities using the internet

Fact check: Joe Biden tweet including apology, stereotypes is fake

Biden didn’t tweet about ‘minorities not being able to use the internet’


VERDICT
False. There is no evidence that Biden ever said these remarks about minorities’ use of the internet and computers.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .
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Maybe Reuters is in on it.

We should blame the media.
 
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utvolpj said:
No what I posted was actually stated in a town hall meeting. I didn't post a tweet
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Is it not what you implied? I asked who said that and you answered with a quote. A quote that was attributed to Biden and then debunked as fake.
 
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Septic said:
Is it not what you implied? I asked who said that and you answered with a quote. A quote that was attributed to Biden and then debunked as fake.
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The quote is real but there was an apology tweet that was fake. He actually said what I posted in quotes
 
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Tastylicks said:
No you haven't.

and no more whataboutisms please. There are like 50 threads here where you can bitch about Biden
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I have started it multiple times but here you go - Santorum is stupid and is irrelevant. Must be why he's on CNN

Still not enough threads for the Biden disaster
 
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#615
n_huffhines said:
OE, maybe you'd like this story (completely unrelated):

My cousin is Rio Rancho PD (Albuquerque) and he was a rep for the Union and helped negotiate contracts. Apparently he made some enemies in that role and when he was up for a promotion (I think Lieutenant) one of his "enemies" who administered the test changed his answers so that he did not get the promotion.

It was well known that this guy did not like my cousin. My cousin shrugged off the rumors that he was cheated. Then like 6 years later this test administrator took the stand in a trial as a witness. To establish his credibility, he was asked to address this rumor about the test. HE TOTALLY OWNED IT!!! My cousin didn't want the promotion at this point, but he gladly took the 6 years in back pay that he was owed had he been awarded the promotion.

Super weird story. Also, my cousin looks exactly like Farva.
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Damn, thread bump uncovered this story about my cousin who has since passed. RIP
 
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Septic said:
Apparently he's been busy looking for reasons to needlessly insult the Native American population.
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you believe there is a bunch of Native American culture present in the typical American culture? And that Santorum insults them by saying there isn't?

Or that the native Americans were a more or less single unified people, that the Puritans more or less stole the idea of a unified America from, and thus insults them?

Or was it the mention of nothing being here? Considering there were less than 10 million natives in North America where the puritans were that averages out to less than 3 people per square mile. Thats the population density somewhere between Alaska (50th at 1.2 people/sqmile) and Wyoming (49th at 5.8). Pretty sure that counts as "nothing" when starting a nation.

no idea how the topic even came up for him to be making these comments. and the snippet comes off as tone deaf and possibly insulting, if you are looking to be insulted, but he's not wrong. its not like the colonists moved into an Etruscan/Italian/Roman setting.
 
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LouderVol said:
you believe there is a bunch of Native American culture present in the typical American culture? And that Santorum insults them by saying there isn't?

Or that the native Americans were a more or less single unified people, that the Puritans more or less stole the idea of a unified America from, and thus insults them?

Or was it the mention of nothing being here? Considering there were less than 10 million natives in North America where the puritans were that averages out to less than 3 people per square mile. Thats the population density somewhere between Alaska (50th at 1.2 people/sqmile) and Wyoming (49th at 5.8). Pretty sure that counts as "nothing" when starting a nation.

no idea how the topic even came up for him to be making these comments. and the snippet comes off as tone deaf and possibly insulting, if you are looking to be insulted, but he's not wrong. its not like the colonists moved into an Etruscan/Italian/Roman setting.
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Was gonna rant at your ignorance myself but someone wrote into Santorum's hometown paper and said it better than I could...

EDITORIAL BY THE PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: Rick Santorum needs a lesson on Native American history

just one snippet (but the whole thing is worth reading):
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"The list of their contributions is lengthy, but perhaps the most significant impact by Native Americans involves the U.S. Constitution.
Dating to 1142, the Iroquois Confederacy is said to be the world’s oldest living participatory democracy. This confederacy of six Iroquois-speaking tribes in New York, Pennsylvania and Ontario, Canada, provided inspiration for the original 13 colonies of the United States to band together.

To this day, the Great Seal of the United States features an eagle holding 13 bundled arrows, a nod to Onondaga leader Canassatego, who argued in the 18th century that many arrows together are tougher to snap than just one."
 
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Tastylicks said:
Was gonna rant at your ignorance myself but someone wrote into Santorum's hometown paper and said it better than I could...

EDITORIAL BY THE PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: Rick Santorum needs a lesson on Native American history

just one snippet (but the whole thing is worth reading):
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"The list of their contributions is lengthy, but perhaps the most significant impact by Native Americans involves the U.S. Constitution.
Dating to 1142, the Iroquois Confederacy is said to be the world’s oldest living participatory democracy. This confederacy of six Iroquois-speaking tribes in New York, Pennsylvania and Ontario, Canada, provided inspiration for the original 13 colonies of the United States to band together.

To this day, the Great Seal of the United States features an eagle holding 13 bundled arrows, a nod to Onondaga leader Canassatego, who argued in the 18th century that many arrows together are tougher to snap than just one."
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right....
the guys "we" fought, killed off, and displaced showed us enough strength to validate our own approach to democracy, against the guys they lost to.

they are simply another example of a democracy that came before ours, that stopped well short of what ours did. In as much as they are an example of democracy sure they had an indirect influence, but not directly. their democracy depended on a double super majority at least 2/3, to elect and change. and there was no representative aspect like ours where the representatives voted on the measures themselves, they went back to the tribe.

and 1 example for an entire non-nation of tribes hardly seems like the basis of our future.

there are other examples that fit better.
 
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Tastylicks said:
Was gonna rant at your ignorance myself but someone wrote into Santorum's hometown paper and said it better than I could...

EDITORIAL BY THE PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE: Rick Santorum needs a lesson on Native American history

just one snippet (but the whole thing is worth reading):
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"The list of their contributions is lengthy, but perhaps the most significant impact by Native Americans involves the U.S. Constitution.
Dating to 1142, the Iroquois Confederacy is said to be the world’s oldest living participatory democracy. This confederacy of six Iroquois-speaking tribes in New York, Pennsylvania and Ontario, Canada, provided inspiration for the original 13 colonies of the United States to band together.

To this day, the Great Seal of the United States features an eagle holding 13 bundled arrows, a nod to Onondaga leader Canassatego, who argued in the 18th century that many arrows together are tougher to snap than just one."
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LOL
 
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Septic said:
Is it not what you implied? I asked who said that and you answered with a quote. A quote that was attributed to Biden and then debunked as fake.
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He said it. Listen to it here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zTZyqpwonnw

Search the quotation or the context and you find a fact check of some ra don’s reaction to it, with a headline that leads the reader to believe the quotation is false. This is how a lot of the fact check articles are set up.
 
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LouderVol said:
right....
the guys "we" fought, killed off, and displaced showed us enough strength to validate our own approach to democracy, against the guys they lost to.

they are simply another example of a democracy that came before ours, that stopped well short of what ours did. In as much as they are an example of democracy sure they had an indirect influence, but not directly. their democracy depended on a double super majority at least 2/3, to elect and change. and there was no representative aspect like ours where the representatives voted on the measures themselves, they went back to the tribe.

and 1 example for an entire non-nation of tribes hardly seems like the basis of our future.

there are other examples that fit better.
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"we" did not fight the Iroquois nation. Learn some history

and it wasn't ONE example. I clearly stated it was a short snippet from the opinion article, that cited a lot more than one.

Even then the excerpt literally began with the words, The list of their contributions is lengthy, but perhaps the most significant... to anyone that can read English, that is implying there are more than ONE example, but for brevity here's a significant one...
 
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#625
Septic said:
Is it not what you implied? I asked who said that and you answered with a quote. A quote that was attributed to Biden and then debunked as fake.
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Have you debunked the quote yet? Maybe I missed it
 
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