Saturday 4/5 Scrimmage

[zidanefan]

I really hate to agree, but after listening to Swain yesterday, I came away thinking the same thing. It appears we're gonna have a walkon playing left tackle and that the prize JUCO left tackle of this class has a very, very, very long way to go.....as in, he's losing his 1 on 1 blocking battles straight up, before all the issues of communication, understanding blocking schemes within the offense, handling stunts and twists, etc, ever come into play. #ConcernedInNashville

Would be nice to have James Craigg back to coach OL this year. Need Sullins twins results.

 

[deaconkane]

Yeah, maybe 4 seconds is too much to ask of our o-line. Wishful, hopeful thinking on my part. Maybe 4 seconds from snap to release is more realistic. Our o-line will dictate our success this season for the most part.

4 seconds is a very long time... I hope we can do this also...

 

[Cosmo]

I think that the OL will gel before the season starts. I mean these guys are really just getting familiar with each other. There is talent (albeit limited) on the line. It will just take a little longer to develop the chemistry. I trust the coaches can get them serviceable by the first game, and make them "quality" players by the end of the season.

I am a little more concerned about the DL.

 

[OnceAVol]

Would be nice to have James Craigg back to coach OL this year. Need Sullins twins results.

I believe it was James Cregg. But a very good OL coach, NFL experience too.

 

[KBVol]

The problem with a beat writer is they don't know football like a coach does, and it shows when UT coaches talk to them they dumb down the terminology for them to report it to the masses. Additionally, beat writers only see what the UT coaches want them to see then they are kicked out of the practice, the HS coaches at the clinic are there to learn from the UT coaches and exchange ideas. Media types are never treated with that same respect.

Uhhh..... sure.

 

[gunner]

Uhhh..... sure.

Coaching is a fraternity, they take care of each other, that's why they have a coaches clinic. Media types are a necessary evil that most coaches would rather ignore, but they can't, so most coaches learn to control and feed the media only what they want them to know.

Beat writers get played all the time by coaches only in rare circumstances does a HC trust a beat writer. The best one that I can think of off the top of my head was Fulmer and Hyams.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Totally agree with this I think we see alot of freshman in the two deep. I just have a gut feeling we are gonna see alot of Dillion Bates this year. I also think we see Riley win the qb job. Remember a few years ago one of the knocks on Johnny football was turnovers in spring practice. Not comparing Riley to Johnny by any means but to me you play the guy with the most talent and that to me is Riley

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Spring Practice began on March 31 and ended with the annual Maroon & White game on April 28. It also included an open scrimmage on April 14 and the Friday Night Lights game on April 20.[6] Senior RB Christine Michael's practice was limited, due to recovering from a torn ACL.[7]

In the Maroon & White game, the white (offense) edged out the maroon (defense) 48-44, with the offense running over 100 plays in the first half. Ryan Swope had 8 catches for 156 yards and 2 TDs. The game was also a showcase for the battle between quarterbacks Jameill Showers and Johnny Manziel, with the former tossing 2 TDs to Malcome Kennedy and Ryan Swope, and the latter also having 1 TD to Swope. Top RB Christine Michael did not play, but other backs Ben Malena and Will Randolph still combined for 3 TDs behind a dominant offensive line led by tackle Luke Joeckel. Showers finished 20 of 31 for 203 yards and 2 TDs, while Manziel was 13 of 27 for 154 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT.

13 of 27? DO NOT WANT!!!!

 

[KBVol]

Coaching is a fraternity, they take care of each other, that's why they have a coaches clinic. Media types are a necessary evil that most coaches would rather ignore, but they can't, so most coaches learn to control and feed the media only what they want them to know.

Beat writers get played all the time by coaches only in rare circumstances does a HC trust a beat writer. The best one that I can think of off the top of my head was Fulmer and Hyams.

You're way overthinking this IMO. I'm not arguing the politics of the media with you. I'm pretty sure a guy who's at every practice and has great access to the coaches and program is capable of watching and discerning whether or not a QB is an accurate passer and who in fact might be the most accurate of the four.

For instance, if Daniel Lewis attends the Saturday scrimmage, like he just did, and writes that Ferguson outside of one bad throw had the best day throwing the ball and making plays with his feet, like he just did, I don't know why I should doubt him. There's nothing for the coaches to force feed there.... he simply wrote what he witnessed.

 

[UTProf]

People are just over excited and guessing but im not buying one word on the QB situation out of any of these coaches mouths until morman state week

^Smart thing to do. We heard a lot about how several players were fantastic last year and a lot of those names getting press in Spring were never heard from in the fall. A lot more goes into making these decisions than what the media sees at the open sections of practice and with QBs it gets even more complicated.

 

[UTProf]

Due to weakness in the trenches and the brutal schedule they play , this team goes 5-7 or at best 6-6 this season. A 4-8 season would not surprise me. Not being negative but just being realistic. I hope fans realize this program is still at least another year or two away from being able to compete with the upper echelon of the SEC

If the trenches are that bad it won't matter who starts at QB, we'll get to see all four of them maybe Ashford too.

 

[Preds&Vols]

Didn't realize Pearson was that physical. He dominated Payne and I didn't expect that. If our O-line can give our QB 4 seconds, we should be much improved on offense with this receiver core.

That's a 23 year old man going against an 18 year old High School senior.

 

[gunner]

You're way overthinking this IMO. I'm not arguing the politics of the media with you. I'm pretty sure a guy who's at every practice and has great access to the coaches and program is capable of watching and discerning whether or not a QB is an accurate passer and who in fact might be the most accurate of the four.

For instance, if Daniel Lewis attends the Saturday scrimmage, like he just did, and writes that Ferguson outside of one bad throw had the best day throwing the ball and making plays with his feet, like he just did, I don't know why I should doubt him. There's nothing for the coaches to force feed there.... he simply wrote what he witnessed.

I'm not overthinking anything, your naive to trust a beat writer who only sees parts of practice everyday and regurgitate what they are all told to write by the coaches. They disseminate the information for the masses. Most beat writers are layman and the coaches are the experts.

The only media types that I would ever consider their opinions as valid are one's who are former players or coaches that have extensive knowledge about football, the way it's played, and what it takes to play the game.

Eric Ainge is a good example, his evaluations of UT players is usually spot on. Even though he doesn't attend each and every practice like a beat writer. But, he sees enough to form an opinion, an expert opinion, while the average beat writer would have a layman's opinion.

I will listen to the experts, you can have your beat writers.

 

[KBVol]

I'm not overthinking anything, your naive to trust a beat writer who only sees parts of practice everyday and regurgitate what they are all told to write by the coaches. They disseminate the information for the masses. Most beat writers are layman and the coaches are the experts.

The only media types that I would ever consider their opinions as valid are one's who are former players or coaches that have extensive knowledge about football, the way it's played, and what it takes to play the game.

Eric Ainge is a good example, his evaluations of UT players is usually spot on. Even though he doesn't attend each and every practice like a beat writer. But, he sees enough to form an opinion, an expert opinion, while the average beat writer would have a layman's opinion.

I will listen to the experts, you can have your beat writers.

High school coaches are experts on college player evaluations....after watching 2 practices? I guess a handful could be but there's no way you can make a blanket statement that high school coaches are experts in evaluating D1 QBs. Just can't see the head coach at Dover or Ripley high school being that guy.

By the way, agree 100% with your comment about Ainge. Also by the way, He and Lewis have been on the same page almost verbatim regarding Riley's performance to date. I love (and trust) the information I get from listening to Ainge. I also trust the information I get from Hubbs and Brice from VolQuest for example. You don't and you certainly don't have to. We'll agree to disagree.

 

[gunner]

High school coaches are experts on college player evaluations....after watching 2 practices? I guess a handful could be but there's no way you can make a blanket statement that high school coaches are experts in evaluating D1 QBs. Just can't see the head coach at Dover or Ripley high school being that guy.

By the way, agree 100% with your comment about Ainge. Also by the way, He and Lewis have been on the same page almost verbatim regarding Riley's performance to date. I love (and trust) the information I get from listening to Ainge. I also trust the information I get from Hubbs and Brice from VolQuest for example. You don't and you certainly don't have to. We'll agree to disagree.

A good high school coach can coach and evaluate talent, much better than any beat writer including Hubbs. But, Hubbs is reliable not because of his experience, but because of his ties to the program, he often provides inside information that was told to him by one of the coaches speaking off the record. Do not underestimate the opinion of a high school coach that has seen practices for the week, and spoken to the UT coaches about the UT players, and their abilities. Many of them are coaching high school football only because of their families, and their unwillingness to relocate to another area to take a college job. Many are very capable of coaching college football at any level.

 

[Madkins8]

I'm not overthinking anything, your naive to trust a beat writer who only sees parts of practice everyday and regurgitate what they are all told to write by the coaches. They disseminate the information for the masses. Most beat writers are layman and the coaches are the experts.

The only media types that I would ever consider their opinions as valid are one's who are former players or coaches that have extensive knowledge about football, the way it's played, and what it takes to play the game.

Eric Ainge is a good example, his evaluations of UT players is usually spot on. Even though he doesn't attend each and every practice like a beat writer. But, he sees enough to form an opinion, an expert opinion, while the average beat writer would have a layman's opinion.

I will listen to the experts, you can have your beat writers.

Hubbs has been to every UT practice and game for more than 15 years, not to mention countless combines and recruiting camps.

I would take his opinion over Ainge every day of the week. Ainge hasn't figured out how to take emotions out of the picture and be objective.

FWIW, most NFL scouts did not play in the NFL.

 

[volger]

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