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He's the thing about the 28 pages of the Senate and House intelligence committees joint report titled “Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters”. We know the 9/11 Commission Report that had Senate and House investigators who worked on the joint congressional report said that the Saudi Govenerment were not financially involved in the attacks because the report states that
It does not appear that any government other than the Taliban financially supported al Qaeda before 9/11, although some governments may have contained al Qaeda sympathizers who turned a blind eye to al Qaeda’s fundraising activities. Saudi Arabia has long been considered the primary source of al Qaeda funding, but we have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization.
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Fund-raisers and facilitators throughout Saudi Arabia and the Gulf raised money for al Qaeda from witting and unwitting donors and diverted funds from Islamic charities and mosques. The Commission staff found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or as individual senior officials knowingly support or supported al Qaeda; however, a lack of awareness of the problem and a failure to conduct oversight over institutions created an environment in which such activity has flourished.
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Former Sen. Bob Graham, chairman at the time of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, called for the release of the 28 pages says that "The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11, and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as being the principal financier.”

Philip D. Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission said
“the famous 28 pages” conclude there was no evidence that the Saudi government and its top officials helped finance al Qaeda
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Also one reason that the 28 pages have been redacted is because the intelligence in the "28 pages" of the Joint congressional reports accuracy was never confirmed or determined.

Also everyone knows that Saudi Private citizens helped fund Al-Qaeda. The question is whether or not the Saudi Government knowingly fund them. The answer to that question has been no.
 
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carlos86 said:
He's the thing about the 28 pages of the Senate and House intelligence committees joint report titled “Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters”. We know the 9/11 Commission Report that had Senate and House investigators who worked on the joint congressional report said that the Saudi Govenerment were not financially involved in the attacks because the report states that



Former Sen. Bob Graham, chairman at the time of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, called for the release of the 28 pages says that "The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11, and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as being the principal financier.”

Philip D. Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission said

Also one reason that the 28 pages have been redacted is because the intelligence in the "28 pages" of the Joint congressional reports accuracy was never confirmed or determined.

Also everyone knows that Saudi Private citizens helped fund Al-Qaeda. The question is whether or not the Saudi Government knowingly fund them. The answer to that question has been no.
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Why not release the 28 pages and remove all doubt?
 
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carlos86 said:
He's the thing about the 28 pages of the Senate and House intelligence committees joint report titled “Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters”. We know the 9/11 Commission Report that had Senate and House investigators who worked on the joint congressional report said that the Saudi Govenerment were not financially involved in the attacks because the report states that



Former Sen. Bob Graham, chairman at the time of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, called for the release of the 28 pages says that "The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11, and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as being the principal financier.”

Philip D. Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission said

Also one reason that the 28 pages have been redacted is because the intelligence in the "28 pages" of the Joint congressional reports accuracy was never confirmed or determined.

Also everyone knows that Saudi Private citizens helped fund Al-Qaeda. The question is whether or not the Saudi Government knowingly fund them. The answer to that question has been no.
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Have you seen the other reports that state every time investigators got leads that actually pointed them in the direction of Saudi Arabia that they were shut down by the FBI for diplomatic immunity reasons, or that one of the financiers shared a cigar with Bush at the White House after the attacks?
 
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carlos86 said:
He's the thing about the 28 pages of the Senate and House intelligence committees joint report titled “Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters”. We know the 9/11 Commission Report that had Senate and House investigators who worked on the joint congressional report said that the Saudi Govenerment were not financially involved in the attacks because the report states that



Former Sen. Bob Graham, chairman at the time of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, called for the release of the 28 pages says that "The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11, and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as being the principal financier.”

Philip D. Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission said

Also one reason that the 28 pages have been redacted is because the intelligence in the "28 pages" of the Joint congressional reports accuracy was never confirmed or determined.

Also everyone knows that Saudi Private citizens helped fund Al-Qaeda. The question is whether or not the Saudi Government knowingly fund them. The answer to that question has been no.
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Facade
 
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davethevol said:
Have you seen the other reports that state every time investigators got leads that actually pointed them in the direction of Saudi Arabia that they were shut down by the FBI for diplomatic immunity reasons, or that one of the financiers shared a cigar with Bush at the White House after the attacks?
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Still pondering the royal family's complicity?
 
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volinbham said:
It is my criticism of him. It's all I've criticized him on WRT this situation and have repeatedly said I would support him keeping it classified.

For some reason you can't address that issue and instead launch into some insane theories.

Ironic you accuse one group of grandstanding then flip out when any criticism is leveled at Obama.

What's a good reason for him not to read the 28 pages?
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US Supreme Court rules Iran must pay nearly $2 bn to terror victims for financial support to Hezbollah who was proven provided financial supply to the 9/11 attackers.
 
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The one thing that think maybe in the "28 pages" is that the Saudi's unknowingly funding some Islamic charities that later funded Al-Qa’ida. As John Schindler said. "The road to 9/11 was paved by Riyadh’s moneymen and Tehran’s spies, who despite their mutual antipathy were both eager to help bin Laden and his movement in their jihad against the West."
 
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Sin City Vol said:
I could care less.... When it comes to matters of national security the public does not need to know what is going on.
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How does info about a country that financed 9-11 need to be suppressed from the public in the name of national security? I mean we've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq; bombed Lybia and killed Qaddafi; we're currently advocating regime change in Syrian... but the people that actually attacked us remain our allies. :crazy:

I don't think keeping those documents secret is a matter of national security. I think a handful of powerful people know they have a lot uncomfortable explaining to do and they know the public won't accept their reasoning.
 
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red butler said:
How does info about a country that financed 9-11 need to be suppressed from the public in the name of national security? I mean we've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq; bombed Lybia and killed Qaddafi; we're currently advocating regime change in Syrian... but the people that actually attacked us remain our allies. :crazy:

I don't think keeping those documents secret is a matter of national security. I think a handful of powerful people know they have a lot uncomfortable explaining to do and they know the public won't accept their reasoning.
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I would bet SA remaining an allies has a lot to do with they are the 2nd highest oil producing country in the world behind Venezuela.

Neither of us know if the documents are a matter of national security, you don't think so and I do but until the government decides the public can see them we'll never know.
 
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Obsessed said:
I don't know if it's been posted, but if it has, my apologies

Saudi Arabia is threatening economic meltdown to the US if the US allows them to be held accountable on the 9/11 attacks...(lawsuits)
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SA bluffing here. If they even attempted to do what they are suggesting, it would cripple their economy. The Sauds didn't get rich by being stupid.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
I would bet SA remaining an allies has a lot to do with they are the 2nd highest oil producing country in the world behind Venezuela.

Neither of us know if the documents are a matter of national security, you don't think so and I do but until the government decides the public can see them we'll never know.
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The government classifies documents to protect sources and methods. They can easily redact any information that would put either of those at risk. I suspect the pages deal mainly with bank transactions though - so it wouldn't compromise anything.

The fact that Saudi is the 2nd highest oil producing country in the world shouldn't mean anything to US national security because most of our oil is produced domestically. Besides, if we had proof that Saudi financed the attack, I'm sure we could have garnered enough support to invade them and take their ****.
 
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red butler said:
The government classifies documents to protect sources and methods. They can easily redact any information that would put either of those at risk. I suspect the pages deal mainly with bank transactions though - so it wouldn't compromise anything.

The fact that Saudi is the 2nd highest oil producing country in the world shouldn't mean anything to US national security because most of our oil is produced domestically. Besides, if we had proof that Saudi financed the attack, I'm sure we could have garnered enough support to invade them and take their ****.
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As I understand it, though, just saying what we know might necessarily indicate how we know it. Or from whom.
 
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Not all is happy in the land of sand.

Saudis snub Obama on Riyadh arrival amid growing tension - CNNPolitics.com

President Barack Obama received a chilly reception from Saudi Arabia's leaders as he landed in Riyadh Wednesday, a clear sign of the cooling relations between once-close allies amid regional upheaval and dropping oil prices.

When Obama touched down in Riyadh shortly after 1 p.m. local time, there were no kisses with the kingdom's ruler as President George W. Bush once exchanged. The Saudi government dispatched the governor of Riyadh rather than a senior-level royal to shake Obama's hand, a departure from the scene at the airport earlier in the day when King Salman was shown on state television greeting the leaders of other Gulf nations on the tarmac.
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carlos86 said:
US Supreme Court rules Iran must pay nearly $2 bn to terror victims for financial support to Hezbollah who was proven provided financial supply to the 9/11 attackers.
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That ruling was an absolute joke. To even remotely place blame on Iran for 9/11 is just comical.
 
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