Scary Quote?

#52
#52
You're right, I guess there are less terrorists in Iraq than there were before..
 
#53
#53
Considering how many we've already killed and they keep coming....I'd be willing to go with that line of thinking.
 
#54
#54
J.Quest said:
But it's hard to argue that it's been 5 years since 9/11 and there has been no attack of significance on our soil. And if it is that easy for normal citizens to be recruited into terrorism, then maybe we are simply providing a catalyst for the inevitable?
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Between WTC '93 and 9/11 is a huge gap....go ahead and think that has a significance.
 
#55
#55
OWB said:
You're right, I guess there are less terrorists in Iraq than there were before..
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You have these stats somewhere I suppose?

So I guess the reasoning is that if our military goes somewhere to fight terrorism then terrorists will congregate there. Makes sense, but does not mean we "create" more terrorsits.
 
#56
#56
We create recruiting causes. People who were rational in thinking will see an event and turn their feelings towards the other side. A few prison photos and some killings in certain towns 'created' some new terrorists. People are not born terrorists. Something had to switch on to convince them to kill other people and even die while doing so.
 
#57
#57
CSpindizzy said:
We create recruiting causes. People who were rational in thinking will see an event and turn their feelings towards the other side. A few prison photos and some killings in certain towns 'created' some new terrorists. People are not born terrorists. Something had to switch on to convince them to kill other people and even die while doing so.
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I see, so this is all it takes for some rational person to be willing to blow theirself up. I would say that they were not that rational in the first place. Of course people are not born terrorists, but the ones that are terrorists were inducted into this thinking by people long before we enetered Iraq. The recruiters can use our being there as an additonal tool to recruit with, but when you are inducting some of these future terrorists at the age of 5, I am not going to put the blame on the US being in Iraq.
 
#58
#58
Yep...never underestimate the power of putting panties on someone's head and taking pictures.
 
#62
#62
allvol123 said:
I see, so this is all it takes for some rational person to be willing to blow theirself up. I would say that they were not that rational in the first place.
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So anyone willing to die for their cause is not rational? I guess our military is filled with irrational people...our history is littered with irrational people as well.

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#63
#63
CSpindizzy said:
So anyone willing to die for their cause is not rational? I guess our military is filled with irrational people...our history is littered with irrational people as well.

:blink:
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Our military has people strap bombs to themselves and then has them set the bomb off?
 
#64
#64
"I don't care how he governs, I will support him. I'm a Republican through and through."
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The only way I can describe my reaction is that really odd hollow feeling around your chest/heart.....scary............
 
#66
#66
Not really shocking at all...my grandparents were all like that.
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It should, our grandparents were coming out of the generation that experienced a civil war, their thoughts were different from ours. I would hope we have evolved and excelled in our thought patterns.
 
#67
#67
allvol123 said:
Our military has people strap bombs to themselves and then has them set the bomb off?
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Methods can be taken away. The fact is there are people who are willing to throw themselves on top of grenades, jump in the path of a bullet, etc. for their cause. You are basically mocking anyone who is willing to give their life for their cause. Who cares what method they use. The fact is the intent is still the same.
 
#69
#69
CSpindizzy said:
Methods can be taken away. The fact is there are people who are willing to throw themselves on top of grenades, jump in the path of a bullet, etc. for their cause. You are basically mocking anyone who is willing to give their life for their cause. Who cares what method they use. The fact is the intent is still the same.
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And so if they are willing to do this, then we are not creating 2 or 3 more everytime we kill 1. The original point.
 
#70
#70
allvol123 said:
And so if they are willing to do this, then we are not creating 2 or 3 more everytime we kill 1. The original point.
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There's still no logic to that. Events that occur have the ability to change people's minds and make them fanatics. Just as 9/11 inspired thousands in our own country to enlist and fight, events that occur in the Middle East such as civilians being killed have a tendency to pull people off the fence and convince those already pretty strong in their beliefs to go to extremes.
 
#71
#71
CSpindizzy said:
There's still no logic to that. Events that occur have the ability to change people's minds and make them fanatics. Just as 9/11 inspired thousands in our own country to enlist and fight, events that occur in the Middle East such as civilians being killed have a tendency to pull people off the fence and convince those already pretty strong in their beliefs to go to extremes.
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So you know for a fact everytime we kill a terrorist we create 2 or 3 more?
 
#73
#73
allvol123 said:
So you know for a fact everytime we kill a terrorist we create 2 or 3 more?
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If you don't get the gist of what I was trying to say with that statement, you should just give up now. It's not that hard to understand, at least to the rest of us. CSpin has tried to explain it to you about 5 times now.
 
#74
#74
OWB said:
If you don't get the gist of what I was trying to say with that statement, you should just give up now. It's not that hard to understand, at least to the rest of us. CSpin has tried to explain it to you about 5 times now.
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No, you throw out a statement with no factual basis. Then you get irritated because you can't back it up.
 
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