Schiano Sunday

[CAVPUT]

Totally worth it. Was it unfair to Schiano? Sure. But that was only collateral damage. It was necessary for the task at hand.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Greg Schiano, Tom Bradley knew of Jerry Sandusky abuse at Penn State, documents show - The Washington Post

For football reasons, IOWA scored 55 on Ohio State this year....

@Shirleyudontmeanthat - Here is one of those threads

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

Schiano would’ve done a better job than Pruitt and we wouldn’t have had the McDonald bags fiasco.

We're a classy program.... We used Chick-fil-A bags

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Im glad we did not end up with Schiano but it's ironic we ended up with with a far inferior coach that had far more substantiated character and ethical flaws....

And we can thank Fulmer for all of that.

 

[DaddyChad]

Schiano, as a GA, followed the university and NCAA protocol by telling his boss, Tom Bradley. Bradley and Paterno decided not to pursue and to cover up....

(And that is all based 25 year third party hearsay from McQueary's depo)

Did Schiano meet a moral obligation (if the depo was true)? Absolutely not

And just like that you’ve proven he’s a bigger POS than Pruitt. Proven I guess is a strong word but you cannot have a coach with those kinds of possible skeletons in their closet as a head coach at a major program.

 

[DaddyChad]

Schiano would’ve done a better job than Pruitt and we wouldn’t have had the McDonald bags fiasco.

You have no idea if that’s true or not. And to boot if more evidence came out that Schiano knew more about what happened at Penn State it’s a much bigger black eye on the program.

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Scroll down to read about the cheap shots Schiano had his guys take on Peyton and Eli when they were trying to take a knee.

Schiano was and is a dirtbag on all levels on and off the field IMO

Greg Schiano loses Tampa Bay Buccaneers with autocratic style

 

[SpookyAction]

He wasn't worth backing the Brinks truck up to. Nor is Elko. They have screwed this pooch, they just don't know it yet.

I would not say they backed the Brinks truck up.
Elko has to win to make elite money, like it should be.

 

[DaddyChad]

And we can thank Fulmer for all of that.

To be fair Fulmer wanted Tucker. A lot of the issues with the AD position over the past fifteen years is certain boosters having too much say in who is hired.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

And just like that you’ve proven he’s a bigger POS than Pruitt. Proven I guess is a strong word but you cannot have a coach with those kinds of possible skeletons in their closet as a head coach at a major program.

Assuming for arguments sake that 25 year old 3rd person hearsay is 100% accurate isn't proving anything.

I agree with you that the reward in hiring Schiano wasn't worth the unknown risk of something more substantiated and damning coming out....

There was enough football reasons to pass on him.

 

[DaddyChad]

Assuming for arguments sake that 25 year old 3rd person hearsay is 100% accurate isn't proving anything.

I agree with you that the reward in hiring Schiano wasn't worth the unknown risk of something more substantiated and damning coming out....

There was enough football reasons to pass on him.

There’s way more evidence that Schiano is a POS than that instance.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

There’s way more evidence that Schiano is a POS than that instance.

Fair point. All of that went into my point that any reward from Schiano wasn't worth the risk.

And to be fair, there were enough ethical and personality red flags that we chose to ignore with Pruitt

 

[majinVol]

loved that day, tbh i was just happy most of the fan based didnt want schiano as badly as i didnt want schiano. To me it was never about the penn state stuff, it was about going at peytons knees, leaking josh freemans medicals, keeping nfl scouts in a tiny press box miles away from practice at rutgers, coaching at ohio state in general, never liked him and i was very pleased with the riot

 

[turbovol]

One of the best things ever that happened to Tennessee, unfair to ShiaNO haha whatever coaches are mercenaries and glad he’s pissed off still at Tennessee

Completely absurd statement. It was the most embarrassing episode in the history of the UT athletic department--and it resulted in the hiring of Pruitt, who was not only a lousy coach but also got us sanctioned by the NCAA. Yea, that was a "best thing," alright.

 

[turbovol]

Oddly enough, they were all silent when OSU didn’t hire him as HC a few years ago. I never figured out why not, if he was the man and coach they said he was when UT didn’t hire him.
Ironic, eh?

Yea, ask OSU fans how they feel about that decision now that the buckeyes have lost three straight to Michigan....

 

[BigOrangePhoenix]

So we all know about David's transgressions with Bethsheeba. Well, he knocked her up, pretty much had her husband killed, and Nathan called him out for it. Well, to pay for the transgressions, the child died. However, they had another win named Solomon, who finished the Temple and became one of the wisest men to ever live. Now, Solomon done many foolish things that called strife as well.

So, in other words, something great can come from something very bad. Heupel just needs to stick with the Temple building, and don't do stupid stuff. If that happens, we will be fine.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Completely absurd statement. It was the most embarrassing episode in the history of the UT athletic department--and it resulted in the hiring of Pruitt, who was not only a lousy coach but also got us sanctioned by the NCAA. Yea, that was a "best thing," alright.

The UTAD deserved the reaction they got for 4 straight bargain bin hires. Fans were ticked and the PSU stuff put enough gas on that fire...

The biggest mistake from Schiano Sunday was Phil sliding into the AD chair...

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Greg and Jeremy are both giant douche cannons. I hope this settles the debate.

 

[BleedOrange16]

 

[Volteacher]

This is just my prediction and opinion (so not saying anyone else's opinion is incorrect or wrong) - I could see Stoops going back to KY for one year and then taking over at Iowa. I think Kirk Ferentz gets one more year and gets to 200+ wins with Iowa (not career wins). Iowa may not be a premier job but its his alma mater could be a good fit.

Iowas has really low expectations AND you don't have to play Tennessee and UGA with some LSU/Bama sprinkled in their yogurt Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota etc....COME ON a good coach can get 9-3 or 8-4 every flipper year

 

[Delmar]

Let’s beat this dead horse one more time. If you poll UT fans, I guarantee that 75 to 80% will say that Schiano wasn’t a good fit. Not glad that they hired Pruitt but you can lay that one directly at the feet of Phil Fulmer. Water under the bridge now.

For what It’s worth (and it ain’t much), Pat Forde took another shot at UT for not hiring Schiano in a Sports Illustrated article today. Called it a “disingenuous” connection to the Paterno situation. Frankly I didn’t know he was smart enough to know the meaning of that word. He said at least Texas A&M was honest about backing away and now he’s the one being disingenuous. Bottom line is that fan and booster revolts caused both situations. Period.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

Let’s beat this dead horse one more time. If you poll UT fans, I guarantee that 75 to 80% will say that Schiano wasn’t a good fit. Not glad that they hired Pruitt but you can lay that one directly at the feet of Phil Fulmer. Water under the bridge now.

For what It’s worth (and it ain’t much), Pat Forde took another shot at UT for not hiring Schiano in a Sports Illustrated article today. Called it a “disingenuous” connection to the Paterno situation. Frankly I didn’t know he was smart enough to know the meaning of that word. He said at least Texas A&M was honest about backing away and now he’s the one being disingenuous. Bottom line is that fan and booster revolts caused both situations. Period.

The fans don't have to revolt at all if you select a coach that they have some respect for. The mess does not originate with the fans. Let's be clear.

 

[Kylo]

Who at least recruited most of the talent that made 2022 possible. Schiano wouldn’t have even given us that IMO

McDonald's should get as much credit as Cornbread for that...

 

[Delmar]

The fans don't have to revolt at all if you select a coach that they have some respect for. The mess does not originate with the fans. Let's be clear.

We agree fully on that point. UT trying to hire Schiano and the Aggies thinking about Stoops caused the same reaction. Both were mistakes that many boosters and most fans couldn’t stomach. Neither “revolt” would have been needed if the powers that be had been thinking at all.

 

[BigOrangePhoenix]

Completely absurd statement. It was the most embarrassing episode in the history of the UT athletic department--and it resulted in the hiring of Pruitt, who was not only a lousy coach but also got us sanctioned by the NCAA. Yea, that was a "best thing," alright.

But it eventually led to Heupel.