School Shooting in Knoxville

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#351
allvol123 said:
According to luther, you are qualified to buy as many of those kind per month, as you want.

We should be so thankful for his allowance.
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Imagine getting mowed down by a Model 11 shotgun but taking solace as you bleed out that the gun is over 50 years old and was the only gun the shooter purchased that month. At least he followed the common sense laws...
 
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luthervol said:
It's keeping the purchase of those guns from becoming more difficult.
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Pick which parts of NFA1934 we remove regulation on. C’mon you’ve gotten bump stocks last year and you’re after pistol braces now.

So in the spirit of the great compromise you seek we should remove regulation on silencers and SBRs. It’s only rational and reasonable after all.
 
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luthervol said:
That's absurd.
Laws impact my behavior daily.
I live right off of a newly widened 4-6 lane road. The speed limit is 45 and constantly monitored by LEOs. I never drive over 54 on the road even though I know I could easily and safely drive 60 to 65.
........and I'm thankful for the speed limit every time my son is leaving or coming home.
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So you’re saying you knowing break the law, and the change in speed limits haven’t stopped you from speeding. Thanks for proving us right.
 
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hog88 said:
Name something slowed down once the government restricted citizens from buying or limited how much they could buy.
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Alcohol Consumption During Prohibition.
We estimate the consumption of alcohol during Prohibition using mortality, mental health and crime statistics. We find that alcohol consumption fell sharply at the beginning of Prohibition, to approximately 30 percent of its pre-Prohibition level. During the next several years, however, alcohol consumption increased sharply, to about 60-70 percent of its pre-prohibition level. The level of consumption was virtually the same immediately after Prohibition as during the latter part of Prohibition, although consumption increased to approximately its pre-Prohibition level during the subsequent decade.
 
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luthervol said:
Let me help you out. Go back and reread....focus on the bolded below.
"I'm more concerned with the would be criminals who are discouraged by the illegality."

Get some rest.
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So would you have to log every purchase in some kind of registry?

If you’re going that far, it seems like the more direct solution is to make it a crime to keep the gun in an unlocked, unattended car and make it a crime to fail to report a stolen weapon. I’m sure there are a few other things that might incentivize responsible gun ownership. You’d have an easier time selling the zealots on that (doubt they will go for the registry).
 
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hog88 said:
So you’re saying you knowing break the law, and the change in speed limits haven’t stopped you from speeding. Thanks for proving us right.
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lol.......Nice try.
I drive 8 mph over the posted speed limit, so the posted speed limit most definitely determines how fast I drive.
 
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luthervol said:
Alcohol Consumption During Prohibition.
We estimate the consumption of alcohol during Prohibition using mortality, mental health and crime statistics. We find that alcohol consumption fell sharply at the beginning of Prohibition, to approximately 30 percent of its pre-Prohibition level. During the next several years, however, alcohol consumption increased sharply, to about 60-70 percent of its pre-prohibition level. The level of consumption was virtually the same immediately after Prohibition as during the latter part of Prohibition, although consumption increased to approximately its pre-Prohibition level during the subsequent decade.
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And illegal activity surrounding it skyrocketed to the point that the government concluded that it was a stupid idea and did away with it.
That’s how bad an idea it was and still is. The government actually did away with it.
 
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luthervol said:
That's absurd.
Laws impact my behavior daily.
I live right off of a newly widened 4-6 lane road. The speed limit is 45 and constantly monitored by LEOs. I never drive over 54 on the road even though I know I could easily and safely drive 60 to 65.
........and I'm thankful for the speed limit every time my son is leaving or coming home.
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Honestly this example is a perfect representation of government and doesn't help your case at all. You would feel comfortable driving at a higher speed, but the government has established an arbitrarily low speed limit in the name of "safety" which is just code for revenue generation and a built in excuse to pull people over for myriad fishing expeditions hoping to land a warrant, DUI, expired license, etc. The speed limit exists as a means for the government to force interactions with citizens. The system would be more efficient and just as safe without the government intervening. The government has intervened and it hasn't markedly changed your behavior as you have rationalized what speed you feel is "safe" regardless of the government's decree.
 
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That post about how I start all the food fights is aging about as well as the unrefrigerated lobster roll I’m about to chuck at somebody.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
So would you have to log every purchase in some kind of registry?

If you’re going that far, it seems like the more direct solution is to make it a crime to keep the gun in an unlocked, unattended car and make it a crime to fail to report a stolen weapon. I’m sure there are a few other things that might incentivize responsible gun ownership. You’d have an easier time selling the zealots on that (doubt they will go for the registry).
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It could be that the record of the purchase is deleted after 30 days.
But yea, I'm for a registry and I know the zealots will fight it.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
Repeal the whole ****ing thing.
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No no no. We want to be rational and reasonable after all. This year we compromise on silencers and SBRs. Next year fully automatic weapons and sawed off shot guns are removed from the list. Then the following year we “compromise” on explosive devices like hand grenades and mines.

Time to start putting the elephant back together one bite at a time.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Imagine getting mowed down by a Model 11 shotgun but taking solace as you bleed out that the gun is over 50 years old and was the only gun the shooter purchased that month. At least he followed the common sense laws...
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Now flip that around. Imagine getting mowed down by an automatic from a criminal, while you a law abiding citizen have your one round shooting musket, because common sense laws say you are safer
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
And illegal activity surrounding it skyrocketed to the point that the government concluded that it was a stupid idea and did away with it.
That’s how bad an idea it was and still is. The government actually did away with it.
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Hog asked for an example. I gave him one.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
Repeal the whole ****ing thing.
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In that case in front of the SCOTUS the government successfully argued that the 2A only protects weapons of war. That’s a hurdle that the gun grabbing fools are going to have a tough time overcoming.
 
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luthervol said:
It could be that the record of the purchase is deleted after 30 days.
But yea, I'm for a registry and I know the zealots will fight it.
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Actually first you have to give something up. Compromise you know since bump stocks and now pistol braces are on the chopping block.

If not silencers and SBRs then fully auto weapons and sawed off shot guns?
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Now flip that around. Imagine getting mowed down by an automatic from a criminal, while you a law abiding citizen have your one round shooting musket, because common sense laws say you are safer
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I would do like Unca Joe taught me and fire my only bullet into the sky so that the sheriff could hear it from town. Hopefully the posse makes it to my ranch before we all get strung up.
 
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