Scrimmage Updates

#51
#51
Other than a few fumbled snaps, what did Crompton do wrong yesterday? I read where EA called a timeout before the scrimmage started and then a timeout on each of the first 3 plays of the scrimmage. I'm afraid that if he doesn't progress well into the next scrimmage that Crompton will have to be forced in, that is if he progresses as well.
 
#52
#52
First of all, as UT fans we better hope and pray that Ainge finds his groove and isnt a total bust. This is looking like 05 again guys. If Ainge cant get it together we are dead. Cal will hand it to us if our passing game cant execute. And now half of VN wants to throw Crompton to the lions. This guy has only had semi live scrimmage and practice action against his own team. And if yall will read the articles, he screwed up just as much as Ainge did. The pass for a td to Coker was a bad ball that Lamarcus made a great play on. He fumble two snaps and lost one. I pray that this crap ends and Ainge comes out of the coma he seems to be in, b/c if he doesnt our defense will stay on the field all year. And that will not be a good thing.


My point is this, Ainge is like a crazy bi polar on the field, but he does have the experience and he has won big games. Let him play a complete game, from start to finish. Dont do the 2 series and switch. Give him a full game and if he cant produce against Cal, then we are headed for another long migraine of a season.
 
#53
#53
I think it is easier to fix botched snaps than a messed up head. And the main thing we need from the QB right now is ball security. We aren't getting that from EA at this point(hopefully by next scrimmage though).
 
#54
#54
(hvwarrior58 @ Aug 13 said:
I think it is easier to fix botched snaps than a messed up head. And the main thing we need from the QB right now is ball security. We aren't getting that from EA at this point(hopefully by next scrimmage though).
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This offense isn't talented enough at the other positions to get by with a caretaker QB. If one of these guys can't actively make plays, all "ball security" will ensure is that we lead the SEC in punts.
 
#55
#55
(hatvol96 @ Aug 13 said:
This offense isn't talented enough at the other positions to get by with a caretaker QB. If one of these guys can't actively make plays, all "ball security" will ensure is that we lead the SEC in punts.
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Absolutely 100% agree. We need a good QB right now more than anything. We are to young at RB and OL to make up for QB mistakes. Our D is gonna be physically out of energy by the 3 rd game.


I got a question for you Hat. Isnt this QB crap the reason we Hired Cut?? Can he not even fix this mess???
 
#56
#56
(checkerboard_charly @ Aug 13 said:
Absolutely 100% agree. We need a good QB right now more than anything. We are to young at RB and OL to make up for QB mistakes. Our D is gonna be physically out of energy by the 3 rd game.
I got a question for you Hat. Isnt this QB crap the reason we Hired Cut?? Can he not even fix this mess???
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I'm certainly not mini-Fulmer's biggest fan, but I wouldn't put this on him. Ainge looked completely defeated by the end of last season and Crompton has no experience. I'm not sure any coach would flourish in that situation.
 
#57
#57
(hatvol96 @ Aug 13 said:
I'm certainly not mini-Fulmer's biggest fan, but I wouldn't put this on him. Ainge looked completely defeated by the end of last season and Crompton has no experience. I'm not sure any coach would flourish in that situation.
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They did alright in Peyton's first season with three freshmen. Manning, Helton, and Stewart. We still managed 8 wins.

He got enough out of Tee to win a NC. surely to god he can fix Ainge.


I thought Ainge had this great brain?? He uncle Danny does the brain typing thing, and I thought Erik was off the charts. He just seems incapable of seeing the whole field and making quick decisions. Maybe he should come down here to Tech and play. They need a QB.
 
#58
#58
Our OL isn't horribly young. Of the 8 I think we rely on(Sears, Scott, Ligon, Frogg, McNeil, Parker, Foster, and Young), 2 are SRs and 2 are JRs. Not the oldest in years but definitely not something that can't be overcome.

The RBs are pretty young. If Hardesty won't be ready, then I think our top 3 will be a SO, a FR, and a SR. We do have at least 1 playmaker though.

I never said JC couldn't be a good QB. He is very mobile and has a rocket on his shoulder that actually is accurate. He just has to get some of the detail down.

Our WRs can be an asset, though they need to be consistent.
 
#59
#59
(hvwarrior58 @ Aug 13 said:
Our OL isn't horribly young. Of the 8 I think we rely on(Sears, Scott, Ligon, Frogg, McNeil, Parker, Foster, and Young), 2 are SRs and 2 are JRs. Not the oldest in years but definitely not something that can't be overcome.

The RBs are pretty young. If Hardesty won't be ready, then I think our top 3 will be a SO, a FR, and a SR. We do have at least 1 playmaker though.

I never said JC couldn't be a good QB. He is very mobile and has a rocket on his shoulder that actually is accurate. He just has to get some of the detail down.

Our WRs can be an asset, though they need to be consistent.
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In another year Crompton should be an all SEC QB. But not now. He has no experience at all. You have to ween these guys, not just throw them to the wolves. Ainge just needs to get it togehter.


Has Ainge not looked good during practice??? Maybe he just had a bad day.
 
#60
#60
That's what I'm hoping for, CBC, that it was just a bad day. Unfortunately, that one bad day looked just like all of last season, save for the Kentucky game.
 
#62
#62
No, he hasn't looked good in practice. He threw at least 2 INTs this week before the scrimmage.

How exactly will Crompton build this experience if we don't put him in? I'm not saying right now to throw Crompton in, but, if Ainge doesn't improve into the next scrimmage and Crompton does, then we need to look at that alternative. We can't be 1-1 going into the UF game with a headcase at QB and try to throw Crompton in midway through the 2nd quarter because Ainge is on his way to another collapse.
 
#63
#63
It was just one scrimmage, but we only get I think 3 before the season. If no progress is made, then Ainge may make a good backup.
 
#64
#64
Hopefully this bad showing is the best thing that could happen to Ainge. I would hope he will realy bear down and start dealing with the pressure and as Cut says 'just do it" instead of talk about it and show some real improvement next Saturday.

You know this showing by Ainge will be a motivating force for Crompton to realy turn it on.
 
#65
#65
Here is a potential problem though. As bad as Ainge was yesterday, here are some quotes from him:

"I felt like I did pretty good," Ainge said. "There were times where I felt like I did very well and there were times where I felt like I did not do very well. I feel a lot more comfortable right now compared to where I was this time last year.

"There were a couple decisions that I made today that I should not have made. I forced two balls today that I should not have. Those are the plays from the first scrimmage that you watch the film and when you come out for the second scrimmage and those same throws are being forced then you are not getting better."

He thinks he did pretty good. Our defense on the other hand thinks that they only did average.
 
#66
#66
(hatvol96 @ Aug 13 said:
I don't know if it's the shoulder injury, lack of confidence, or simply the fact that he was never really as good as some of us thought, but it certainly appears that Ainge is quite possibly done. I hope I'm wrong.
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Ainge was never as good as people thought, because he looked good aginst poor defenses(UNLV, La. Tech, and FLA.) and he started off good against Ole Miss. and GA but came down to earth. He then looked very average at USC. Didn't set the woods on fire against ND either. But as far as a roll out passer throwing on the run he's the best I've seen, but standing in the pocket he's one of the worst.
 
#67
#67
(rockytopinalabam @ Aug 13 said:
Ainge was never as good as people thought, because he looked good aginst poor defenses(UNLV, La. Tech, and FLA.) and he started off good against Ole Miss. and GA but came down to earth. He then looked very average at USC. Didn't set the woods on fire against ND either. But as far as a roll out passer throwing on the run he's the best I've seen, but standing in the pocket he's one of the worst.
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You included Florida in poor defenses. Come on. Florida never has a poor d. Maybe off but never poor.
 
#68
#68
By Fla standards, the defense was way down that year. Miss State ran all over them in 2004.
 
#69
#69
(Lexvol @ Aug 13 said:
By Fla standards, the defense was way down that year. Miss State ran all over them in 2004.
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Yeah but they are as, if not more, athletic and talented as us. They always bring it on D.
 
#70
#70
(hvwarrior58 @ Aug 13 said:
Other than a few fumbled snaps, what did Crompton do wrong yesterday? I read where EA called a timeout before the scrimmage started and then a timeout on each of the first 3 plays of the scrimmage. I'm afraid that if he doesn't progress well into the next scrimmage that Crompton will have to be forced in, that is if he progresses as well.
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What to you mean by each of the first three plays? If I understand you correctly, I don't remember that being the case.

(hvwarrior58 @ Aug 13 said:
I think it is easier to fix botched snaps than a messed up head. And the main thing we need from the QB right now is ball security. We aren't getting that from EA at this point(hopefully by next scrimmage though).
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I have to agree about Ainge. You can't have your qb scoring 14 points for the other team every game.

The bad snaps are to be expected I think. That will be worked out by the next scrimmage I bet.
 
#71
#71
Yeah, I was wrong about the TOs. It was the first 3 possessions, not plays. Still though, that is too much.
 
#72
#72
(hvwarrior58 @ Aug 13 said:
Yeah, I was wrong about the TOs. It was the first 3 possessions, not plays. Still though, that is too much.
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It is too much but it's not terrible for the first scrimmage. I thought they got in and out of the huddle pretty well for the most part.
 
#73
#73
(vol_freak @ Aug 13 said:
I have to agree about Ainge. You can't have your qb scoring 14 points for the other team every game.

The bad snaps are to be expected I think. That will be worked out by the next scrimmage I bet.
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Yeah, the offense isn't capable of recovering if EA gives them 14pts.

I bet every 1st scrimmage has bad snaps. Maybe it was the center's fault not the QB's?
 
#74
#74
I'm not ready to hit the panic button just yet. I think the Cal game will show us if Ainge will be The Man or not. If he struggles bad in that game bench him and give it to Crompton. I know he will struggle but hey Peyton and Casey were freshman when they were given the nod and they both turned out fine.

If Cut cant fix Ainge's psyche it cant be fixed.

God I am really missing Schaeffer right now. He is going to turn heads at Ole Miss. The kid can make plays with his feet and arm.
 
#75
#75
I think Crompton starts the Cal game for a couple of reasons.

Three years ago when Ainge and Schaeffer won the starting job over R Clausen and CJ Leak they did not playing that much better then Leak and Clausen in scrimmages. Fulmer decided to go with the youth, because they had a bigger future.

I think for the same reason Crompton is going to be given the starting job over Ainge. From what I have read Crompton played much better then Ainge in the first scrimmage. IMO he only has to play as well as Ainge to get the starting job. This doesn't even bring up Ainge's problems playing under pressure in games.

There's only 3 weeks to the Cal game and a couple of scrimmages. If Ainge doesn't start looking a lot better at QB then Crompton I think they go with Crompton as the starter. :pilot:
 
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