Sebelius? You guys must be proud.

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rjd970 said:
The argument was about potential. With human help, your skin cells have the potential to become a human life. Does a blastocyst have more potential? Sure, I obviously understand that. Qualitatively speaking though, the blastocytic cells at that stage are no different in their ability to feel pain or remember experiences than any other cell in the human body.

Without further understanding of when consciousness actually arises, this issue should be looked at through the prism of suffering. And the only real compassionate conclusion to come to is that the little girl with burn marks on 80% of her body should trump the interests of a clump of 150 cells every single time. Especially when those clump of cells only reach their full potential roughly half the time.
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The cells aren't the same. One has the ability to become a human unaided by science. The other doesn't. That makes the difference as large as possible relative to this discussion.

Suffering as a measure is as arbitrary as size. It's only logical to the extent you're looking to support abortion.
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#77
abortion would be reduced if a state mandated birth control was induced for the welfare mongers who only have kids for the morning.
 
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#78
666 said:
I think the problem was that passing the law that she vetoed would allow people to stop an abortion, even in an emergency situation.
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If there is an emergency situation and the mother was in danger the doctor has been trusted to make those calls unless the next of kin or the patient themselves objects, I don't see that this bill effects that at all. I could be wrong but it looks like it was a convenient out for those to vote against it.
 
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