SEC Tournament Cancelled

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MinisterofDef#92 said:
This is exactly what I am talking about...yes, there is no vaccine (yet) but not everyone who gets covid-19 dies. There are numerous treatments being used and the vast majority of patients are recovering from covid-19 everyday (and many people around the world have likely had covid-19 and DID NOT EVEN KNOW based on data from South Korea which indicates the mortality rate is <1% and their daily new cases peaked and has been in decline for over a week now).

I am not even going to get into the fact that each season the flu vaccine only picks the right viral strain of the flu about 30-40% of the time.
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No, not everyone dies who gets Covid but you can infect someone who might. It is EXTREMELY contagious.
 
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omghulkhands said:
But it’s not about the players risk. It’s about their risk to expose more high risk people they interact with on a daily basis, such as Rick Barnes. He is in the risk age group of over 60.
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That's what I was thinking earlier. A lot of these coaches are over 60, and some are even over 70.
 
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omghulkhands said:
But it’s not about the players risk. It’s about their risk to expose more high risk people they interact with on a daily basis, such as Rick Barnes. He is in the risk age group of over 60.
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That was not the question I was asked. To your question, I then ask to what degree should we adopt this preventative mentality and why have we not taken these extreme measures in the past when the situation was far worse (e.g., swine flu which killed 10+ k yet we waited to declare a national emergency until 1 k had died)? We could likely save 20+ k of lives every flu season if we shut everything down and avoid interactions which looks to be exponentially more lives saved than from what covid-19 will do (the global death toll <5 k). Maybe we cap driving speeds at 30 mph which would save tens of thousands of lives we interact with on the roads everyday?
 
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VolGee4 said:
If just one NBA player doesn't want to play, then you have a problem. There are also liability issues. You keep playing and God forbid, a player does get seriously ill. Everyone reacts differently. You just can't say that "they are all young and can deal with it." Well, there are some coaches in the NBA who are 60+.

Not sure why you would compare this to HIV. You have to exchange bodily fluids for that- not just come into contact with someone. That's not a good example.
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Next man up if someone does not want to play (which I respect any such decision). Again, if a coach needs to step away it is his decision but let's not act like they are not already at risk with the flu and in the past with other viral outbreaks.

HIV is a perfect example because it was new and scary without any vaccine and there was much fear that it could be easily transmitted since there was virtually not clinical studies to reference.
 
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Delmar said:
No, not everyone dies who gets Covid but you can infect someone who might. It is EXTREMELY contagious.
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What are you basing this on? Also, please quantify what you mean by "extremely"?

The data gathered to-date does not support this in the least.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Ridiculous, the over reaction causes more and more panic by people.
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You are dead on. How many people making these decisions actually understand the way a viral infection works. We are exposed to viral infections every single day. covid-19 is only noticeable because there is no pre-existing antibody in most people. Anyone with a healthy immune system will quickly make the needed antibodies and fight off the infection.
Quick quiz.....how do you kill a virus?
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Next man up if someone does not want to play (which I respect any such decision). Again, if a coach needs to step away it is his decision but let's not act like they are not already at risk with the flu and or with past outbreaks.

HIV is a perfect example because it was new and scary without any vaccine and there was much fear that it could be easily transmitted since there was virtually not clinical studies to reference.
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I disagree about HIV. While it may have been "new," it was known not to spread by just the touch.

All I can tell you is that doctors are more concerned about this. I have personally heard it discussed that there is no vaccine and that the unknown just causes you to take precaution. As I stated previously, a vast majority of the pediatric deaths from flu this year were from unvaccinated kids. Having a vaccine is a bigger deal.

If you google it, the NBA did seem to have a plan in place for the swine flu. There were rumors that Lebron tested positive for it, but that was never confirmed. I would guess if multiple NBA players had tested positive, then it may have been handled differently. It was also during preseason and never really ramped up past that.

Bottom line is that I am ok with using caution.
 
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chadslaughter said:
I'm not saying I disagree with cancelling sporting events but I am curious as to why we are treating this virus differently than we did with the 2009-2010 H1N1 outbreak. There were an estimated 12,000 H1N1 related deaths in the US and between 150,000 and 575,000 worthwide.

H1N1 United States Fast Facts - CNN
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It had a mortality rate of 0.02%, which is a lot lower than coronavirus. Additionally, it was mostly just a mutated flu.

This is more like a less dangerous SARS than a more dangerous H1N1
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
That was not the question I was asked. To your question, I then ask to what degree should we adopt this preventative mentality and why have we not taken these extreme measures in the past when the situation was far worse (e.g., swine flu which killed 10+ k yet we waited to declare a national emergency until 1 k had died)? We could likely save 20+ k of lives every flu season if we shut everything down and avoid interactions which looks to be exponentially more lives saved than from what covid-19 will do (the global death toll <5 k). Maybe we cap driving speeds at 30 mph which would save tens of thousands of lives we interact with on the roads everyday?
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I just think you’re misinformed and have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue at hand. Comparing this to Swine Flu makes that clear. I know many people are convicted and can’t be moved, but time will make it obvious. Hundreds of thousands in the US will lose their lives this year no matter what precautions we take.
 
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508mikey said:
look on the back of any Lysol can - this virus is nothing new
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yep..it's called # '19' for a reason.....there has been 18 previous viruses of the same strain if I am saying it correctly...this being stronger evidently
 
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omghulkhands said:
I just think you’re misinformed and have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue at hand. Comparing this to Swine Flu makes that clear. I know many people are convicted and can’t be moved, but time will make it obvious. Hundreds of thousands in the US will lose their lives this year no matter what precautions we take.
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This. Frankly I'm kind of done trying to reason with some people. If your response is "derp, the flu!" then you're either quite ignorant to the situation or you're just repeating what someone has told you to think about it.
 
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This is going to sound like sour grapes, mostly because it is and especially given the probability of things going our way, but I find it highly suspect to award bids on Selection Sunday for a tournament that could be played at a later date without first having the conference tournaments played to fruition.
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
This is going to sound like sour grapes, mostly because it is and especially given the probability of things going our way, but I find it highly suspect to award bids on Selection Sunday for a tournament that could be played at a later date without first having the conference tournaments played to fruition.
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Assuming that the tournament gets postponed and played at a later date, which is assuming a lot at this point, conference tournaments aren't absolutely necessary in the process of crowning a national champion, and that's what the focus would be if the situation does allow for the tournament to be rescheduled. Some, albeit not many, have said for years that there shouldn't even be conference tournaments. While I'm not a proponent of that, time is of the essence in a case like this, and the automatic bid for the conferences that didn't finish their conference tournaments can just go to the regular season champion.

Personally, I see a postponement of the NCAA Tournament taking place until an unspecified date. If the situation is contained and mitigated within the next 30-45 days (huge huge IF), there is a possibility we see the NCAA tournament played. If not, postponement will turn into cancellation.
 
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