SEC Tournament Cancelled

#79
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jordan4vols said:
Yet the flu has killed 20,000 this year already. Compared to 1400 worldwide from coronavirus. Unless you have underlying health issues or are elderly your risks are beyond minimal. It would feel flu like for a few days and recover.
What you are seeing is hysteria being built to a fever pitch so that when they release a vaccine the pharmaceutical company makes billions of dollars off of the media hype.
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How many people have had the flu this year? That is a key missing number. You can't just throw out 20k dying from the flu without knowing how many have had it. I bet it's a huge number- in the millions. BUT there is a vaccine for the flu that, at the very least, mitigates it when you get the virus. I have 6 members in my family (all had flu shots), and 5 of us got the flu this year.

There is no vaccine for corona, and it appears to spread quicker than the normal flu. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but doctors are literally telling everyone this is different, and some still don't want to listen.
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
That's precisely what causes a collapse. For most people, this is just going to be a minor illness at worst; what sense is there in "shutting down" the country when it's not as if this is the plague?
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To be clear, I'm talking about shutting down large attendance events. But if we don't take steps to contain the infection rates, the healthcare industry (from providers to the supporting supply chain partners) won't be able to sustain the demand and then you have big time issues.

I guess what I'm saying is, I agree we are overreacting to this, but underreacting would have worse consequences. I just don't think we have enough data to just simply brush it off as nothing and go on as if nothing is happening.
 
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orangejuice said:
I don’t understand why everyone keeps saying overreaction. Was Italy overreacting when they closed the country? I mean that’s HUGE compared to canceling a tournament. I don’t know about you guys but I would prefer the hospitals not be overwhelmed with sick peoples because we are worried about overreacting.
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Primarily because the total number of real cases is not known (mild cases are misdiagnosed) and, if it were, it would very likely reduce the mortality rate to a very large degree. South Korea is the best example of this as I believe they have performed the most tests to-date (over 140 k) and their statistics, which I believe are trustworthy, indicate the absolute worst-case is ~1.5% mortality rate but more likely to be <1% which is a far cry from the fear porn estimates. Plus, SK's "daily new cases" peaked and is already declining (as is China's although not sure their numbers can be believed).

Also, for historical context, we waited until there were ~1 k deaths from the swine flu before we even declared a national emergency and that went on to affect ~60 MM people and place ~300+ k in the hospital with ~10 k ultimately dying all here in the US (it is estimated between 200-400 k people died worldwide) but we did not shut down a thing.
 
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wtmvol said:
To be clear, I'm talking about shutting down large attendance events. But if we don't take steps to contain the infection rates, the healthcare industry (from providers to the supporting supply chain partners) won't be able to sustain the demand and then you have big time issues.

I guess what I'm saying is, I agree we are overreacting to this, but underreacting would have worse consequences. I just don't think we have enough data to just simply brush it off as nothing and go on as if nothing is happening.
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Ah, my mistake; I thought you were suggesting a more full-scale ceasing of operations a la what Hong Kong/parts of China have endured.
 
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orangejuice said:
Did I miss where multiple countries are picking who lives and dies because hospitals are overwhelmed with people deathly sick from the flue? Did flu season shut down a country like it’s WW2? This is more about limiting how quickly this spreads and overwhelms hospitals more than anything.
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You do realize we are talking about only 300 k cases WORLDWIDE - right?
 
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orangejuice said:
I don’t understand why everyone keeps saying overreaction. Was Italy overreacting when they closed the country? I mean that’s HUGE compared to canceling a tournament. I don’t know about you guys but I would prefer the hospitals not be overwhelmed with sick peoples because we are worried about overreacting.
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Such as you????
 
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volfanjustin said:
Why don't we stop everything every year when flu season starts?
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Fear of the unknown. Maybe this is nothing and we look back shaking our heads at the self induced recession we threw ourselves into. It's just as likely that we look back and say 'thank God we cancelled those mass attendance events'. I lean towards thinking that this is an overreaction, but again, that isn't a certainty.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I don't think these conferences are getting advice from the media. They are consulting with health professionals, and I think the overall thinking is that events with a large amount of people are not a good idea. In addition, the positive test from 2 NBA players really took it over the top.
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Events with a large amount of people are NEVER a good idea if you want to prevent the transmission of any airborne illness...lol. And, does it seem rational that 2 people is what took it over the top?!?!?

As I stated in another post, we waited until ~1,000 people were DEAD with the swine flue before we even declared a national emergency and ~60 MM caught it with ~300 k people hospitalized.
 
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