Seeking interviews for prospective short documentary - Schiano Sunday

[VolnGermany]

I liked the way Urban Meyer roasted UT for not hiring him, and then when he had to miss some games the next season, he put his Offensive Coordinator in as the temporary head coach and not Schiano. Speaks volumes.

 

[secking]

I can't wait to see your documentary.

Some key tidbits for you to include:
-- Greg Schiano just went 7-6, again, at Rutgers
-- He has a losing record, lifetime, as a college head coach: 94-101 (.482)
-- Meanwhile, Josh Heupel's 2024 campaign went 10-3, and his lifetime record as a head coach is 65-23 (.739)
-- And that doesn't even include the vast differences in their value systems.
-- Yes, we had to go through 3 years of Pruitt to get here, but it was certainly worth it. Much better than rusting in mediocrity with Schiano for any length of time.

Go Vols!

UT did not hire Heupel instead of Schiano. You have to report the record of Pruitt vs Schiano to be accurate. UT fans rejected Schiano because his name was not Jon Gruden, who everyone was convinced was coming If he wants accuracy.

Longest threads ever on VN was Gruden threads, they were so long, they had to be numbered.VN was alive and was looking for clues with every MNF broadcast. Goodness, Grudenites was a thing so you can’t tell the story without Gruden. People supposedly seeing his wife looking at schools, rumors that he was looking at houses in Xyz neighborhoods. Everyone was having fun during the Gruden watch and some convinced themselves he was coming and no one else would be acceptable.

 

[secking]

It wasn't a done deal. Davenport never signed the contract.

Correct, a memorandum of understanding was signed by him and the University but the Chancellor never signed according to ESPN. Surprised no one has mentioned Clay Travis yet. I’m sure he would give his account as he started the revolt.

 

[MemphisVol77]

I can't wait to see your documentary.

Some key tidbits for you to include:
-- Greg Schiano just went 7-6, again, at Rutgers
-- He has a losing record, lifetime, as a college head coach: 94-101 (.482)
-- Meanwhile, Josh Heupel's 2024 campaign went 10-3, and his lifetime record as a head coach is 65-23 (.739)
-- And that doesn't even include the vast differences in their value systems.
-- Yes, we had to go through 3 years of Pruitt to get here, but it was certainly worth it. Much better than rusting in mediocrity with Schiano for any length of time.

Go Vols!

You know, I figured that would be a nice bit of info to include

Just jokes haha

I don't know how the information you collect will drive the narrative of your documentary. I hope some of this information makes it in.

TN and OSU were the only two FBS programs that had never suffered an 8 loss season before our 2017 disaster.

Kirk Herbstreit commented that "TN should be thrilled to have Schiano" at the time. I feel that comment, and a few others by him, unfairly castigated our fanbase as ingrates

A year later, Schiano was on staff at OSU when Urban Myer left. Schiano wasn't even considered for the OSU job.

 

[05_never_again]

From Schiano’s perspective it was a done deal.

Doesn't matter what he thought from his perspective. The contract wasn't fully signed.

 

[GiveHim6InSC]

Try to interview any of those morons at CBS sports who roasted us for being tired of mediocrity

Yep. Then they just faded off once things started coming out.

 

[GiveHim6InSC]

Probably better not to touch on this sensitive subject, until so many more years on down the road. Long story short, fans listen to their conscience and took a stand against evil. For a lot of people in Tennessee, this was personal and went above and beyond Tennessee football.

I had no idea who he was until some of my buddies started texting me with “I can’t believe y’all are gonna hire him” type stuff. Started looking into it and could not believe anybody would hire him at UT.
The revolt was one of the proudest moments of my life as a Tennessee fan.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

You should contact Theo Von. He won't know the topic, but, it won't matter and he'll be hilarious.

 

[perico]

A more fun documentary would be on the night Lane Kiffin bolted.

Schiano Sunday was just embarrassing for the football program and so… slimy. Currie was such a dip$&!+ for even entertaining the idea, and then he let Mike Gundy play us for another raise for the 2nd time in 5 years.

I didn’t approve the way the fans went about it. Schiano had nothing to do with Sandusky and didn’t deserve to be painted as some kiddy diddler enabler. Clay Travis took one 2nd hand quote that was unproven and amplified it with the fan base. It was unsettling.

Now that being said, Currie was too stupid to read the room temperature. You don’t let a fan base like Tennessee work itself up into a frenzy only to bring in Schiano. If you let the situation escalate like he did, then you better swing for the fences. His backup plan for Schiano? LOL Dave Doeren. At least Fulmer had the sense to allegedly sabotage that one.

Currie and Hamilton were both dip$h!ts, but the whole Hart/Currie era really tested my patience.

Plus Schiano Sunday also led to Fulmer as AD and we know how that ended- our NC winning coach proving all the naysayers correct and face planting in front of the whole country.

 

[loservol]

A more fun documentary would be on the night Lane Kiffin bolted.

Schiano Sunday was just embarrassing for the football program and so… slimy. Currie was such a dip$&!+ for even entertaining the idea, and then he let Mike Gundy play us for another raise for the 2nd time in 5 years.

I didn’t approve the way the fans went about it. Schiano had nothing to do with Sandusky and didn’t deserve to be painted as some kiddy diddler enabler. Clay Travis took one 2nd hand quote that was unproven and amplified it with the fan base. It was unsettling.

Now that being said, Currie was too stupid to read the room temperature. You don’t let a fan base like Tennessee work itself up into a frenzy only to bring in Schiano. If you let the situation escalate like he did, then you better swing for the fences. His backup plan for Schiano? LOL Dave Doeren. At least Fulmer had the sense to allegedly sabotage that one.

Currie and Hamilton were both dip$h!ts, but the whole Hart/Currie era really tested my patience.

Plus Schiano Sunday also led to Fulmer as AD and we know how that ended- our NC winning coach proving all the naysayers correct and face planting in front of the whole country.

Go home Herbstreit. He knew about the abuse and wouldn't come forward, because he knew it would be the end of his coaching career.

 

[Voltopia]

UT fans rejected Schiano because his name was not Jon Gruden, who everyone was convinced was coming If he wants accuracy.

Longest threads ever on VN was Gruden threads, they were so long, they had to be numbered.VN was alive and was looking for clues with every MNF broadcast. Goodness, Grudenites was a thing so you can’t tell the story without Gruden. People supposedly seeing his wife looking at schools, rumors that he was looking at houses in Xyz neighborhoods. Everyone was having fun during the Gruden watch and some convinced themselves he was coming and no one else would be acceptable.

This is what I remember the situation being. Everyone spent a month telling themselves it was Gruden, then went nuclear when Schiano's name leaked. The anger was overwhelming at first, but also unfocused. It took a day or two for some folks to unify behind the "we don't want anyone associated with the PSU scandal," even though no one had any evidence of anything Schiano had or hadn't done. That wasn't the point, though. The point was to make the situation so radioactive that it'd force Tennessee to backtrack. Lurid, but effective. And it worked.

After a string of bargain-basement coaching hires, all while watching Alabama pile up multiple national titles and win over a dozen against the Vols, the fans blew their stack. Kiffin ditched Tennessee, Dooley's tenure was embarrassing, and then Butch did Butch things. People were tired of feeling like Tennessee was rummaging through the DVD bin for coaches. They wanted a big splash, they wanted Gruden. "Why aren't we swinging for the fences?" It could have been almost any mid-major hire at that point. Schiano was just particularly egregious and uninspiring, and had a history they could use to make the protest real for Tennessee. They wanted their anger heard - by Tennessee, and by the rumored power behind Tennessee's hiring process, the Haslams.

That second part is worth remembering. Whether rightly or wrongly, (which I only say because I am not "in the know," I certainly have opinions), the Haslams were perceived to be the driving force behind the Schiano hiring, and a number of other decisions and hirings made over the past decade. One of the more common jokes during the 2010s was to call UT the "Tennessee Browns," after all. I think some of the anger also stemmed from people feeling like Tennessee was being mismanaged by people whose money and influence made them unaccountable. Again, rightly or wrongly, not for me to say.

In any case, after Schiano was kicked to the curb, things died down. Once the protest got Schiano out and Currie was fired, and with the national media ferociously mocking the Tennessee situation, the fans were spent. It was wagon circling time. Tennessee brought in Fulmer, and people weren't about to riot against Fulmer's pick, whoever it was, and that's how we got to Jeremy Pruitt.

 

[NAILS]

SOON!!!!!

 

[volsforever27]

Didn’t Haslam tell Marsha Blackburn that they made the hires, and to stay out of it? Seems like I remember her confirming it.

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

I wonder if the threads from here are still around. The administration had a guy on here pushing for Schiano , he got lambasted on here but was adamant that Schiano was the hire and how great it was. After that day poof never heard from again on here

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

In retrospect, he probably would have been better than what we got.

Uh no way , if you have an ounce of intelligence and or conscience he was always a heck no. U can affiliate yourself w pedophile enablers , I myself refuse

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

Lincoln, never forget that Schiano, although he supposedly had a done deal with Tennessee, NEVER, EVER SUED. He wasn’t going to do anything that put him under oath about what he knew went on at Penn State. Too many people forget or neglect this fact.

Boom , mic drop …

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Hello fellow Vols,

My name is Lincoln Bohrer, and I am a senior journalism student at UT. I am hoping to make a documentary on the Schiano hire of 2017 and the resulting protests this upcoming semester. If you attended the protests, live near (within 90 minutes of) the Knoxville area, and are okay with being on camera, please send me an email at lrbohrer21@gmail.com so I may add you to a list of potential interview subjects.Schiano hire was Volnation's finest hour.

Thanks and go Vols!

Lincoln

Good lucky on this good idea. I think the objection/protest to the Schiano hire was Volnation's finest hour.

 

[brockytop]

Doesn't matter what he thought from his perspective. The contract wasn't fully signed.

That still doesn’t mean he couldn’t sue UT and have a great chance winning in court.

Bottom line is Schiano was never going to sue regardless what took place with the hiring process here.

 

[05_never_again]

That still doesn’t mean he couldn’t sue UT and have a great chance winning in court.

Bottom line is Schiano was never going to sue regardless what took place with the hiring process here.

He would have no chance of winning in court, which is why he didn't sue. We hadn't signed the contract.

If Davenport had signed that deal, we would have owed him whatever buyout amount was given in the deal.

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

That still doesn’t mean he couldn’t sue UT and have a great chance winning in court.

Bottom line is Schiano was never going to sue regardless what took place with the hiring process here.

lol without a signed contract he had zero chance … cmon man

 

[TheVolunteer002]

Hello fellow Vols,

My name is Lincoln Bohrer, and I am a senior journalism student at UT. I am hoping to make a documentary on the Schiano hire of 2017 and the resulting protests this upcoming semester. If you attended the protests, live near (within 90 minutes of) the Knoxville area, and are okay with being on camera, please send me an email at lrbohrer21@gmail.com so I may add you to a list of potential interview subjects.

Thanks and go Vols!

Lincoln

Good luck with the doc. Be sure to post it here when you're done with post production so we can check it out.

 

[EastTNVol423]

I'd start with the guys at fox sports knoxville - fan run radio. they are the guys that started the protest on campus

 

[Lankykong]

I'd start with the guys at fox sports knoxville - fan run radio. they are the guys that started the protest on campus

Yeah, I feel like Jon Reed would be a fun interview for this

 

[taylorvol]

If people were really honest, they would admit they didn't really even know about the Schiano/Sandusky connection until after it was mentioned. It was really that as Vol fans we wanted a better coach. It was an attempt to make us look more ethical, but really, we just thought he was a horrible coach.

Not true for many. There was too much evidence of a cover up by Schiano as a PSU GA is on record informing Schiano about Sandusky’s actions. Schiano, like many at PSU, didn‘t inform the proper authorities. Coach Paterno did inform his boss, who did nothing.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

I remember driving my son back to college when the news broke, and I told him he wasn't going to make the cut...and he said what are you talking about, UT just said they're putting the offer together, and I told him to just wait, b/c it ain't gonna happen...that was my immediate reaction. The PSU stuff was cover...but valid cover. At the end of the day, he was viewed as Butch 2.0, and the thought of having another "brick by brick" quoting coach w/ mediocre success, who had a player revolt as NFL coach, just set him up in a bad situation where AD Currie had zero self-awareness on the pulse of Vol Nation. In retrospect, he'd have been much better than Pruitt though...but that ain't saying much.

Wrong about the last sentence. Pruitt recruited the 2022 team.