Sen. John edwards caught with mistress and love child!

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615 Vol said:
What are they?
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The biggest and most glaring difference is Edwards had his affair while seeking to be our next president. While McCain's wife was recovering from a car accident when he left his wife to be with Cindy, Edwards had this affair while his wife fights for her life against cancer. I'm not defending McCain his actions were wrong but he apparently was not happy and left his wife to be with another. Edwards on the other hand wants to have his cake and eat it too. Not to mention the child left in his wake who will undoubtedly be told the truth one day and wonder why his father did not take full responsibility for him and treat him like a dirty secret.
 
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KB5252 said:
The biggest and most glaring difference is Edwards had his affair while seeking to be our next president. While McCain's wife was recovering from a car accident when he left his wife to be with Cindy, Edwards had this affair while his wife fights for her life against cancer. I'm not defending McCain his actions were wrong but he apparently was not happy and left his wife to be with another. Edwards on the other hand wants to have his cake and eat it too. Not to mention the child left in his wake who will undoubtedly be told the truth one day and wonder why his father did not take full responsibility for him and treat him like a dirty secret.
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An affair is an affair. Does it make it any better if your wife is healthy at the time or something? If Edwards and his wife made up and get passed the situation then how is that worse than McCain outright leaving his wife? Also, Edwards says the kid isn't his, how do you know it is? Both cases are bad and I don't want to defend either man on this, I just don't think there are lesser degrees of having affairs. You either have one or you don't and both men are guilty of it. I do, however, believe you have to forgive and forget so I wouldn't hold it against McCain if I plan to vote for him and he has seemed to settle in with Cindy so it hasn't been a repeat case with him.
 
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615 Vol said:
An affair is an affair. Does it make it any better if your wife is healthy at the time or something? If Edwards and his wife made up and get passed the situation then how is that worse than McCain outright leaving his wife? Also, Edwards says the kid isn't his, how do you know it is? Both cases are bad and I don't want to defend either man on this, I just don't think there are lesser degrees of having affairs. You either have one or you don't and both men are guilty of it. I do, however, believe you have to forgive and forget so I wouldn't hold it against McCain if I plan to vote for him and he has seemed to settle in with Cindy so it hasn't been a repeat case with him.
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Short answer is no. But I do believe some circumstances can make it worse. He says it isn't his kid and she says the same. He says he will take a paternity test, she says she won't allow it, all the while money seems to be sent her way from Edwards. It just looks to me like she is getting paid to keep this quiet.
 
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IMO, the more we harp on this Edwards affair, the more it hurts John McCain. McCain admitted he had an affair many years ago, but the recent accusations (by the New York Times no less) that he had an affair with Vicky Iseman have never been proven.
 
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If this news had come out during or before the D primary process, would it had changed the dymanics in a way that Hillary would have been the nominee?
 
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TennNC said:
I believe the vast difference is that McCain is a Republican and Edwards a Democrat.
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You don't think the fact that Edwards' wife was fighting for her life and the fact that the affair happened while he was seeking the presidency is any different? McCain's affair was bad enough but when you deny a child that makes it a little worse IMHO.
 
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Trust me: we Republicans not want to have this argument. Sure, we may be correct in our assessment that Edwards' affair is much worse than McCain's affair (in our opinion), but by continuing to discuss this matter, it only helps to highlight that John McCain committed adultery too.

So, if the goal is to win an argument about whose adultery was worse (impossible), then we should continue the discussion, but if the goal is to win the election, then we need to quit harping on John Edwards no matter how fun it might be b/c it will inevitably backfire on John McCain.

I'm actually surprised that FOX, Hannity, Rush are still talking about this. It's completely irrelevant, and it hurts our chances of winning. Then again, maybe these folks don't really want John McCain to win?
 
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KB5252 said:
You don't think the fact that Edwards' wife was fighting for her life and the fact that the affair happened while he was seeking the presidency is any different? McCain's affair was bad enough but when you deny a child that makes it a little worse IMHO.
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Their careers were in different stages, yes, but is that difference of any significance? And either the child is his or not - if it's his, then I'm sure he will provide for it. If it's not, then it's not his responsibility. The differences btwn the two affairs are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. They both cheated while their wives were facing serious physical challenges and while they still were young and virile enough to hop in the sack with someone significantly younger than they.

side note, but didn't his affair technically occur before he announced he was running for president in late 2006?
 
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notverycrucial said:
Trust me: we Republicans not want to have this argument. Sure, we may be correct in our assessment that Edwards' affair is much worse than McCain's affair (in our opinion), but by continuing to discuss this matter, it only helps to highlight that John McCain committed adultery too.

So, if the goal is to win an argument about whose adultery was worse (impossible), then we should continue the discussion, but if the goal is to win the election, then we need to quit harping on John Edwards no matter how fun it might be b/c it will inevitably backfire on John McCain.

I'm actually surprised that FOX, Hannity, Rush are still talking about this. It's completely irrelevant, and it hurts our chances of winning. Then again, maybe these folks don't really want John McCain to win?
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I don't really see how this story is linked to McCain. This was already tried by the left and it came off as kind of desperate and it they soon backed off on it. One has little to do with the other unless someone steps forward with credible info on McCain.
 
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notverycrucial said:
I'm actually surprised that FOX, Hannity, Rush are still talking about this. It's completely irrelevant, and it hurts our chances of winning. Then again, maybe these folks don't really want John McCain to win?
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notverycrucial, you might actually have a point for once.

Whoever wins is going to be forced to step into a big pile of doo-doo, and it's going to be stinky for quite awhile. I don't know if the GOP can win back the House or Senate, but it might behoove the party to let a Dem administration deal with the stink and then come back and win the WHouse in 4 years when the odds are better for some positive momentum.

So, reminding people about McCain's adulterous affair might turn out to be good for the GOP.
 
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TennNC said:
Their careers were in different stages, yes, but is that difference of any significance? And either the child is his or not - if it's his, then I'm sure he will provide for it. If it's not, then it's not his responsibility. The differences btwn the two affairs are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. They both cheated while their wives were facing serious physical challenges and while they still were young and virile enough to hop in the sack with someone significantly younger than they.

side note, but didn't his affair technically occur before he announced he was running for president in late 2006?
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I might be wrong about this but from what I understand it continued and was ongoing during his campaign and after. Just to be clear this is what I gather and I could be wrong.
 
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KB5252 said:
I don't really see how this story is linked to McCain. This was already tried by the left and it came off as kind of desperate and it they soon backed off on it. One has little to do with the other unless someone steps forward with credible info on McCain.
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McCain has acknowledged his adulterous affair in his own writings, no?

Arizona, the early years

"Their marriage began disintegrating while McCain was stationed in Jacksonville. McCain has admitted to having extramarital affairs."
 
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TennNC said:
McCain has acknowledged his adulterous affair in his own writings, no?

Arizona, the early years

"Their marriage began disintegrating while McCain was stationed in Jacksonville. McCain has admitted to having extramarital affairs."
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So TennNC, why do you think the NY Times did a front page segment on a supposed affair between McCain and some lobbyist but didn't dare touch this Edwards thing?
 
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