September 10, 2024 Presidential Debate Thread. (Insert snarky subtitles here.)

#926
#926
BowlBrother85 said:
Her name was on the ballot for VP in 2020.

As far as leadership is concerned .... Trump is not exactly a pillar of accountability. On one hand, he is dismissive of so many former members of his administration being publicly critical of him. Basically, he speaks of them as being disgruntled former employees, who he had fired. But who hired them in the first place?

Also, Trump had instilled his followers with the belief that he could still retain the presidency on January 6, 2021. He certainly did have a role in the violence that ensued at the Capitol that day .... 'I had nothing to do with it."

The buck never stops with Trump. He is all ego.
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you aren't going to get any argument for me about Trump. he is terrible, but he has done the job. being on the ballot as VP is about as useful as tits on a bull. that shows absolutely nothing.

speaking of Kamala and the Dems. They have dismissed her boss as incapable of doing the job, and not held her accountable for lying to the public for however long you want to believe Biden has been mentally unfit. most of the problems she talks about fixing were issues that arose under her VP'ship if you think that was actually worth a darn. seeing as how Biden isn't even legally liable for his own actions you would think there would be at least one adult in the WH making some decisions to fix the problems. why is she waiting for 6 months to do what her and her boss haven't done?

There is no leadership on either side.
 
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I didn't watch last night, but I seriously am curious.

Is there anyone that watches these that ever actually has their mind changed, or is undecided to the point these actually make them pick a side?

At the end of the day Reps saw what they wanted to and Dems saw what they wanted to.
 
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I do remember at one point Kama implied that Jan 6th was the greatest attack on our country since the Civil War. What a slap in the face to WTC victims on the eve of 9/11. Can't believe Trump missed an opportunity there to eviscerate her over that comment.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
I didn't watch last night, but I seriously am curious.

Is there anyone that watches these that ever actually has their mind changed, or is undecided to the point these actually make them pick a side?

At the end of the day Reps saw what they wanted to and Dems saw what they wanted to.
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if you want to live with your head in the sand then come into this forum and take in all the back and forth.
Go watch the debate and draw from it what you want without relying on a chat board to do it for you.
 
#933
#933
InVOLuntary said:
RFK is still a left wing liberal. He aligns with about 10% of my ideals. Same with Tulsi. Endorsing Trump doesn't do anything for me.
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the point still stands. what made Trump any more viable in 2020 than any of the other candidates that lost? he still lost. the only reason Trump was up there, was because people were willing to vote for him. you could literally just replace Trump in 2020 with anyone and still voted for a loser. Trump was no more "viable" than anyone but Biden.

the only "viable-ness" a voter ever needs to consider is "Do I actually want this person to be president", as a pure standalone statement. if you can't say yes to that question on its own, they shouldn't be viable to you. you shouldn't consider them, or vote for them. because that is what your vote is saying. I want THIS person to be president. it doesn't ask about anyone else, it doesn't ask any relative statements comparing that person to anyone else. it is purely asking do you want that person to represent you as a citizen of this nation.

everything else is an excuse used to keep yall herded up on the party's plantation. too scared to free yourself and see what is off the plantation.

granted, some people are going to say yes, I really do want this person to be president. and that's fine, its a free country. but whining about viableness is just making excuses
 
#934
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mr.checkerboards said:
I didn't watch last night, but I seriously am curious.

Is there anyone that watches these that ever actually has their mind changed, or is undecided to the point these actually make them pick a side?

At the end of the day Reps saw what they wanted to and Dems saw what they wanted to.
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No, I don't think these things really move the needle for anyone who has already made up their mind. It may sway some independents ( I guess), but for the life of me, I don't know anyone that hasn't already made their mind up, and who waits until the debate to make that determination. I generally think these debates are a waste of time. They don't even ask pertinent questions.

here are a few of the stupid questions ABC asked during this debate:
- trump made a comment at a rally about Kamala being black
- January 6th
- whether Trump thought he actually lost "by a whisker" and whether that was sarcasm

and a couple of others I can't remember
 
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n_huffhines said:
Your response kicked things off, I just responded in kind. It all started with a genuine question and you went with the "Gee, IDK" line. I made a sarcastic comment because you did.

Kick rocks.
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Are you really responding with I know you are but what am I?

Have a good day junior.
 
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LouderVol said:
the point still stands. what made Trump any more viable in 2020 than any of the other candidates that lost? he still lost. the only reason Trump was up there, was because people were willing to vote for him. you could literally just replace Trump in 2020 with anyone and still voted for a loser. Trump was no more "viable" than anyone but Biden.

the only "viable-ness" a voter ever needs to consider is "Do I actually want this person to be president", as a pure standalone statement. if you can't say yes to that question on its own, they shouldn't be viable to you. you shouldn't consider them, or vote for them. because that is what your vote is saying. I want THIS person to be president. it doesn't ask about anyone else, it doesn't ask any relative statements comparing that person to anyone else. it is purely asking do you want that person to represent you as a citizen of this nation.

everything else is an excuse used to keep ya'll herded up on the party's plantation. too scared to free yourself and see what is off the plantation.

granted, some people are going to say yes, I really do want this person to be president. and that's fine, its a free country. but whining about viableness is just making excuses
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This has nothing to do with Trump. Not sure why ya'll are so fixated. This has to do with a viable 3rd party candidate that aligns with what I deem as qualities I want in a president. Trump has the best chance of defeating this abomination of a radical left wing, communist ideology. I'm not tossing my vote in the garbage as you that think you are making some kind of statement. If Kamala get's in it won't be because of me. You on the other hand.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
This has nothing to do with Trump. Not sure why ya'll are so fixated. This has to do with a viable 3rd party candidate that aligns with what I deem as qualities I want in a president. Trump has the best chance of defeating this abomination of a radical left wing, communist ideology. I'm not tossing my vote in the garbage as you that think you are making some kind of statement. If Kamala get's in it won't be because of me. You on the other hand.
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If Kamala wins, it will be because Republicans nominated a terrible candidate. Everybody shares the blame
 
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theFallGuy said:
No, I don't think these things really move the needle for anyone who has already made up their mind. It may sway some independents ( I guess), but for the life of me, I don't know anyone that hasn't already made their mind up, and who waits until the debate to make that determination. I generally think these debates are a waste of time. They don't even ask pertinent questions.

here are a few of the stupid questions ABC asked during this debate:
- trump made a comment at a rally about Kamala being black
- January 6th
- whether Trump thought he actually lost "by a whisker" and whether that was sarcasm

and a couple of others I can't remember
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That's my point. I've watched them before and they're pretty pointless. I just don't see these things being relevant anymore.
 
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#944
BowlBrother85 said:
Trump ran on wanting to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act ..... in 2016. So why is he still talking about his healthcare plan in terms of being in a "concept" stage in 2024?
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Bc like aboriton was for the Dems its more fun to make it a wedge issue
 
#945
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theFallGuy said:
I do remember at one point Kama implied that Jan 6th was the greatest attack on our country since the Civil War. What a slap in the face to WTC victims on the eve of 9/11. Can't believe Trump missed an opportunity there to eviscerate her over that comment.
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He missed almost all his opportunities and instead tried to bring everything back to the southern border and illegal immigration, so it’s not surprising. A simple scare tactic is all he could muster.

Both events were alarming, but one was unifying and one was divisive.
 
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#947
InVOLuntary said:
This has nothing to do with Trump. Not sure why ya'll are so fixated. This has to do with a viable 3rd party candidate that aligns with what I deem as qualities I want in a president. Trump has the best chance of defeating this abomination of a radical left wing, communist ideology. I'm not tossing my vote in the garbage as you that think you are making some kind of statement. If Kamala get's in it won't be because of me. You on the other hand.
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I have never denied my culpability, I very much believe the Rush lyrics "if you chose not to decide you still have made a choice". it absolutely has to do with you too. you feed into the system that gave you Trump. any half decent R candidate would be mopping the floor with Kamala. but you vote for Trump to stick it to the communists, and what you get is a Trump who is a terrible candidate and the communists win anyway.

every election is sold the exact same way, and if you haven't seen it, you aren't paying attention. Its always THIS election that is the most important, we just have to beat them this time so we can get a better candidate NEXT time. same exact story every single time. and you still fall for it. applies to both sides.

you could just vote for someone else that is actually a good candidate. say enough people splinter off from Trump and Kamala to where this third person gets 20%. Kamala wins in the end this time. but next election. the powers that be are forced with a decision. Stick with Trump, appoint someone else in their party, or go with the third party that got 20%? Because you play along you don't force any decisions amongst the party. you never present them with a candidate you actually want. you just vote up the same slop they always feed you and ask for more. and we all stay stuck in the same loop.
 
#948
#948
theFallGuy said:
I do remember at one point Kama implied that Jan 6th was the greatest attack on our country since the Civil War. What a slap in the face to WTC victims on the eve of 9/11. Can't believe Trump missed an opportunity there to eviscerate her over that comment.
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Missed that one as well as rally comment. He missed a chance to back her down with one American killed and two shot attending his event.
 
#949
#949
BowlBrother85 said:
Trump ran on wanting to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act ..... in 2016. So why is he still talking about his healthcare plan in terms of being in a "concept" stage in 2024?
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because he is just as terrible of a candidate as Kamala is. or Kamala is just as bad of a candidate as Trump is.

I don't know why you asked me, they are both trash and people shouldn't vote for either one.

want to address any of the points, or justify why/how Kamala has shown off an ability to lead the nation?
 
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