September 10, 2024 Presidential Debate Thread. (Insert snarky subtitles here.)

Not sure what all the fuss is over Trump's claims about eating cats.

Hell, I can just go down the road to the Chinese take out place anytime!
 
The party that purports to wear the big boy pants and preach personal responsibility sure does act like a bunch of whiney ass "victims" most of the time.
Trump certainly lost the debate, but if anyone could easily identify someone playing the victim we know it would certainly be the experts on the subject .
 

Harris is gonna tell you whatever she thinks you want to hear. For the life of me, I cannot understand how people cannot see that she is talking out of both sides of her mouth and no one (not even herself ) knows what she will do if elected. At least with Trump you know what you are getting on the economy, foreign policy and security. We have no idea with this woman. The hate for Trump is over riding any clear vision people may have.
 
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I misheard it .he said I won't have too.....but he did say he wouldn't sign a ban
Gotcha. I stopped it before I heard the full second answer so that might be when he finally said it. The point is he’s not remotely clear in his communication, even when it should be easy to be clear. That was an easy answer based on the things he had just said.
 
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At no point did I say the moderators asked valid questions, I just asked you for the value of that question, which you can't demonstrate so you immediately lash out like a child.
I answered but it didn’t meet your approval so you made a sarcastic comment. You’re consistent if nothing else.
 
there were some out there, they have now aligned with the other various candidates but they were there. it was the same self defeating argument voters have used forever.

"I won't vote third party because they can't get enough votes to justify my vote." because no one is willing to take the first step, everybody is stuck.

got to break yourselves of the habit, and just vote for people you actually want. willing to bet in the case of "blind" vote the third party would shake out a lot better than when the two parties tell the voters a third party is a wasted vote.
there were no viable candidates. The libertarians are just a bunch of disenfranchised liberals.

I don't care for Trump but I will be voting for him because the alternative scares me.
 
Opportunity Economy, wtf is that ?
Code speak for “equity” = trying to engineer equal outcomes. Be it reparations, abusively high tax rates, further redistribution of wealth, random stimulus checks, hiring practices weighted toward other factors than performance and competence, etc., the list “could” include any and all of these. They have to repackage the wording every so often.
 
You say that like it’s something far fetched. People are on tv saying they’re going to parks and taking ducks as well.
This is such a strange talking point. I assume that this was brought up as an emphasis on the need to crackdown on illegal immigration, but even if you assume that this is happening - how do you know that the people involved are in the country illegally, if there haven't been any arrests made?

It seems like if you want to make your case on the importance of having a tough policy on immigration, there are numerous better examples to use. How about the murder of Jocelyn Nungaray?
 
Well, we've seen the Biden administration implement multiple policies designed to get tough and they've tried to pass more, but failed. Not saying I like any of the policies, but popular opinion has already moved that meter.

I agree with your last sentence, but that's just not the world we live in, unfortunately.

Edit: I also kinda don't agree. If politicians were honest and reliably stuck to their guns, do you trust Americans to vote the best ideas into office? Because if you vote in the wrong crusaders...that's when we become Venezuela.
now we can still become Venezuela. and Americans aren't actually voting on the better ideas today anyway, so I don't see a difference there either.

there is pretty much nothing between the two candidates that is going to help this country.
 
This is such a strange talking point. I assume that this was brought up as an emphasis on the need to crackdown on illegal immigration, but even if you assume that this is happening - how do you know that the people involved are in the country illegally, if there haven't been any arrests made?

It seems like if you want to make your case on the importance of having a tough policy on immigration, there are numerous better examples to use. How about the murder of Jocelyn Nungaray?

Illegal invaders and refugee dumps are both a problem. I don’t know if they’re going around killing animals but it’s not extreme to believe it’s possible or even highly likely given the number of complaints by the folks that live there.
 

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