September 10, 2024 Presidential Debate Thread. (Insert snarky subtitles here.)

[utvolpj]

That is overplayed. He missed several opportunities to make effective points. Trump is not quick on his feet.

Yeah the rest of the post covered that

 

[n_huffhines]

Trump got the last word on every topic that night and the three fact checks were: (1) No Donny, you really did lose the 2020 election, (2) No Donny, there's no evidence that Haitians in Springfield are eating people's pets, and (3) No Donny, no state allows a woman to give birth to a baby and then allow her to kill it.

OK, so if they were fair, why didn't they fact check this outright lie?

"As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone, in any war zone around the world, the first time this century,” - Kamala

 

[just bob]

Nice post

Being an enigma is a good thing

Just wondering what your post had to do with anything.

 

[Septic]

They're still whining about the thumping Kamala laid on Donny.

They're mad she was able to articulate a cogent argument at a debate?

The trumplicans hit bottom and keep digging.

On an unrelated note, anyone know the correct sous vide temp for a medium rare cat?

 

[just bob]

They're mad she was able to articulate a cogent argument at a debate?

The trumplicans hit bottom and keep digging.

On an unrelated note, anyone know the correct sous vide temp for a medium rare cat?

I would think I'd take it a bit more on the done side.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Just wondering what your post had to do with anything.

Everything not in the right wing narrative

 

[Septic]

OK, so if they were fair, why didn't they fact check this outright lie?

"As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone, in any war zone around the world, the first time this century,” - Kamala

Lots of qualifiers in that statement to make her "technically" right?

 

[utvolpj]

OK, so if they were fair, why didn't they fact check this outright lie?

"As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone, in any war zone around the world, the first time this century,” - Kamala

I jitsu don't understand why the heck Trump couldn't? This should be really simple for any competent person with 4yrs to prepare.

 

[lawgator1]

No, it's not.

Donald Trump said yesterday that he will no longer agree to do a debate on Fox News if Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum are the moderators. Trump said he would only agree to a debate on Fox News if Sean Hannity and Jesse Watters were the moderators.

Are you serious ? Really?

 

[utvolpj]

Lots of qualifiers in that statement to make her "technically" right?

Sure but he wins the moment if he just asks if Syria and Iraq are not combat zones. Or even mentions the soldiers killed in Jordan this year. She's a serious intellectual lightweight but he looked for a personal fight instead of winning on facts. It's his Achilles heel and she was prepared

 

[BowlBrother85]

I said she rejected one. Remember you were arguing semantics earlier. Call Trump a coward all you want, I don't care.

The CC is a coward. No press, no questions, only debated with mods 1000% in her pocket. Keep railing on Trump all day, don't act like she isn't a coward.

A good chunk of your argument goes out the window, if Harris agrees to do a debate on Fox News with Baier and MacCallum and Trump won't do it.

Nobody is going to accept Trump's inference that Baier and MacCallum would be biased in favor of Harris.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I jitsu don't understand why the heck Trump couldn't? This should be really simple for any competent person with 4yrs to prepare.

A guy that can't handle the debate stage any better than him has NO business being POTUS. If social media didn't exist, he could have never been POTUS

 

[BowlBrother85]

Are you serious ? Really?

Yes. Click on the links I posted in post #1,577 of this thread.

 

[just bob]

A good chunk of your argument goes out the window, if Harris agrees to do a debate on Fox News with Baier and MacCallum and Trump won't do it.

Nobody is going to accept Trump's inference that Baier and MacCallum would biased in favor of Harris.

We're not talking about Trump. I've already said to call him whatever you want, that's great. We're talking about your girl. The CC refuses to do a debate in which the mods aren't 1000% in her favor. The CC refuses to take real questions from the press. You believe this is not cowardly?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Sure but he wins the moment if he just asks if Syria and Iraq are not combat zones. Or even mentions the soldiers killed in Jordan this year. She's a serious intellectual lightweight but he looked for a personal fight instead of winning on facts. It's his Achilles heel and she was prepared

Most people know neither have any business near the White House. Unfortunately that's our choices. Who do you think had the better performance at the debate? Who do you think wilted under the pressure?

Edit: There's absolutely no doubt who would be the most entertaining for the next 4 years as POTUS. I think that candidate has blown it

 

[n_huffhines]

Lots of qualifiers in that statement to make her "technically" right?

This happened like 12 days ago. If it's true on some sort of technicality that I don't understand, then IDGAF, it's still an outright lie. Mods should have probed her to let her explain why it's technically true. Everybody would have come out of the explanation saying "Ok, that was a lie."

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If we're being technical, you can't really prove a negative, so fact checking "immigrants are eating pets...." is a claim they can't actually refute with certainty.

 

[theFallGuy]

"People were concerned that statements were allowed to just hang and not [be] disputed by the candidate Biden, at the time, or the moderators," Davis told the outlet on Wednesday morning. - Linsey Davis

Don't care to get into the weeds on this, but she's basically telling you they were making an effort to "fact check" Trump more based on the Biden debate.

 

[hog88]

How do the MAGA faithful defends supporting a guy so easily baited by someone they claim to be so ignorant??
Harris was playing 3-D chess while Donny was trying to figure out how checkers work.

LOL Harris didn't play chess. She did better than Trump but it's absurd to say she played 3-D chess.

 

[just bob]

This happened like 12 days ago. If it's true on some sort of technicality that I don't understand, then IDGAF, it's still an outright lie. Mods should have probed her to let her explain why it's technically true. Everybody would have come out of the explanation saying "Ok, that was a lie."

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If we're being technical, you can't really prove a negative, so fact checking "immigrants are eating pets...." is a claim they can't actually refute with certainty.

Is this your Terminal Lucidity? What an odd moment of clarity for you.

 

[utvolpj]

Most people know neither have any business near the White House. Unfortunately that's our choices. Who do you think had the better performance at the debate? Who do you think wilted under the pressure?

Edit: There's absolutely no doubt who would be the most entertaining for the next 4 years as POTUS. I think that candidate has blown it

She beat him a most will not care about the fact check after the debate. In that I think she got a lot of help. However the lack of prep by Trump was alarming. I have no doubt I could have done better than he did

 

[BowlBrother85]

We're not talking about Trump. I've already said to call him whatever you want, that's great. We're talking about your girl. The CC refuses to do a debate in which the mods aren't 1000% in her favor. The CC refuses to take real questions from the press. You believe this is not cowardly?

I'm talking about Harris too.

Your argument goes out the window if Harris publicly agrees to do a debate on Fox News with Baier and MacCallum moderating .... but then Trump refuses to do it.

Baier and MacCallum are not 1000% in her favor, or even in favor of Harris at all. It's a ridiculous notion.

 

[utvolpj]

A guy that can't handle the debate stage any better than him has NO business being POTUS. If social media didn't exist, he could have never been POTUS

Not so sure. He got attention in 2016 because he was Trump the entertainer and marketer without the political baggage. The gave him free time on all channels because he made ratings. The mainstream media made him delectable then

 

[just bob]

I'm talking about Harris too.

Your argument goes out the window if Harris publicly agrees to do a debate on Fox News with Baier and MacCallum moderating .... but then Trump refuses to do it.

Baier and MacCallum are not 1000% in her favor, or even in favor of Harris at all. It's a ridiculous notion.

Ok.... You're right in that if that happened I would be wrong, but she has already turned that down for Sep 4th. Are you under the belief that there will be a Fox debate with those moderators before this election? What an odd response... Of course Trump as already said no more debates so she can then say she wanted 50 debates and he'd be refusing them all, but that would be weird.

So you're saying the QB sucks? Well if he went out and threw 30/30 for 600 yards and 10 TD's then you'd be wrong. Checkmate.

Ok? I guess you got me? This post of yours was a bit weird.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Ok.... You're right in that if that happened I would be wrong, but she has already turned that down for Sep 4th. Are you under the belief that there will be a Fox debate with those moderators before this election? What an odd response... Of course Trump as already said no more debates so she can then say she wanted 50 debates and he'd be refusing them all, but that would be weird.

So you're saying the QB sucks? Well if he went out and threw 30/30 for 600 yards and 10 TD's then you'd be wrong. Checkmate.

Ok? I guess you got me? This post of yours was a bit weird.

No, it's factual. Harris hasn't said that she wouldn't do a debate on a Fox News. She just said that the September 10th, which was already scheduled, would come first.

I don't see how Trump can avoid a debate on Fox News, if Harris agrees to it. The optics for him would be terrible.

 

[Sudden Impact]

She beat him a most will not care about the fact check after the debate. In that I think she got a lot of help. However the lack of prep by Trump was alarming. I have no doubt I could have done better than he did

Not everybody can debate. Trump is going to Trump. Debates are about the ability to Command the state and Control the narrative. Also requires a debater to improvise when necessary. Trump whined, could not get a new msg across, and blew his top. Not the guy I want dealing with foreign govts. Harris although prepared and had the ability to bait is all she needed to do. Same old stuff and had more I gotcha moments than Trump. Trump's record is broken but Harris is not the answer. We can fact check after the debate all day long, but the Candidates have to be ready on stage to do so when someone's jargon does not add up.