Shooting in El Paso

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evillawyer said:
It's usually either 3 or 4 shot in a shooting. Some have more strict definitions, requiring 3 or 4 fatalities.
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Exactly, it appears they are using every shooting where multiple people are shot. One the NYT used was an arguement/fight in a bar where a guy pulled a gun and shot three people.

I think most rational people would think of mass shootings as things like today or The Pulse Club where someone enters some place of business and indiscriminately shoots people. One is to many obviously but we arent having 1 a day.
 
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I hate all of this political rhetoric nonsense trying to blame mass shootings on Trump or the Democrats.

The fact is, nutjobs are going to nutjob regardless of what party they're affiliated with.

This kind of rhetoric actually incites more violence.
 
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Matt2496 said:
I hate all of this political rhetoric nonsense trying to blame mass shootings on Trump or the Democrats.

The fact is, nutjobs are going to nutjob regardless of what party they're affiliated with.

This kind of rhetoric actually incites more violence.
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True, there will always be nut jobs looking for the fastest and easiest way to inflict mass carnage.
 
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luthervol said:
True, there will always be nut jobs looking for the fastest and easiest way to inflict mass carnage.
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I think that's what bothers people the most. Nobody wants to admit that they're not in control.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm scared to ask, but why is his Dad's profession noteworthy?
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If he was a patient of his dad or another therapist who prescribed him meds for depression, ADHD or any other psychiatric or psychological condition it is very noteworthy.

Based on his dad’s profession, I’d say the odds are very good.
 
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ajvol01 said:
If he was a patient of his dad or another therapist who prescribed him meds for depression, ADHD or any other psychiatric or psychological condition it is very noteworthy.

Based on his dad’s profession, I’d say the odds are very good.
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So your belief is that meds lead to mass shootings?
 
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luthervol said:
I'm not following your logic.
Fewer guns would lead to fewer deaths by guns.
Fewer vehicles would lead to fewer deaths and injuries.
Everything has a cost/benefit that is weighed by society as a collection of individuals.
Vehicles and guns have differing cost/benefit ratios. (as determined by society)
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Yes everything has a cost benefit , it doesn’t cost you anything for me to own my firearms and they benefit me and my family . so my rights outweigh the Feelz of progressive liberals trying to tell me what I should or shouldn’t own .
 
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GAVol said:
I think that's what bothers people the most. Nobody wants to admit that they're not in control.
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Which in a way circles back around to the root of the gun debate.

Does the current US gun culture give one more or less control?
Gun lovers would probably answer more.
Gun regulators would probably answer less.
And it sort of boils down to breadth of perspective.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I think they can desensitize young people to violence.
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There's no proof of that. That talking point gets trotted out every time this happens, and it is proved false every time.

In yet another study on the subject, it shows that there is no link between playing violent video games and aggression in adolescents.

Courtesy of the Oxford Internet Institute and the University of Oxford, this new study was published in Royal Society Open Scienceand is being touted as being one of the most comprehensive studies on the subject to date.

That is because this study used a combination of subjective and objective data to measure teen aggression and violence in games. Compared to previous research on the subject, which relied on self-reported data from teenagers, this study used information from parents and carers to judge the level of aggressive behavior in their children.
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The result of this thorough approach showed that there was no link between violent video games and teenage aggression, something that the lead researcher Professor Andrew Przybylski went on to clarify.

"The idea that violent video games drive real-world aggression is a popular one, but it hasn’t tested very well over time. Despite interest in the topic by parents and policy-makers, the research has not demonstrated that there is cause for concern."​

New Study Shows That There Is No Link Between Violent Video Games And Aggression In Teenagers
 
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0nelilreb said:
Yes everything has a cost benefit , it doesn’t cost you anything for me to own my firearms and they benefit me and my family . so my rights outweigh the Feelz of progressive liberals trying to tell me what I should or shouldn’t own .
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I do pay a cost for living in a country with 390,000,000 guns.
And in some ways I receive a benefit.

The costs outweigh the benefits IMO. (and in the opinions of a growing number of Americans)
 
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1972 Grad said:
I think screwed up people lead to mass shootings, and certain meds can lead to screwed up people..
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I get what you're saying, but that's a little bit like blaming oxygen because everybody that commits crimes breathes it. I don't think people go on shooting does because of Zoloft, it's just that mentally ill people tend to be on those drugs just because. It's one of those correlation/causation dilemmas.
 
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luthervol said:
I do pay a cost for living in a country with 390,000,000 guns.
And in some ways I receive a benefit.

The costs outweigh the benefits IMO. (ant in the opinions of a growing number of Americans)
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My guns didn’t cost you one penny , my guns have never been around you , my guns have never been unsecured ... I am the person that’s responsible for my firearms. It’s almost like magic , they do nothing until I make them .
 
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0nelilreb said:
My guns didn’t cost you one penny , my guns have never been around you , my guns have never been unsecured ... I am the person that’s responsible for my firearms. It’s almost like magic , they do nothing until I make them .
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Thanks for being responsible.

And remember, I have never once advocated for taking away your right to own a gun(s). Just rational and reasonable limitations and regulations.
 
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