Shooting in El Paso

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GAVol said:
I'm no psychologist, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that driving 9 hours to gun down people in a Walmart is a pretty telling sign of instability.
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I’ll go farther out on that limb and say if you’ve got 9 hours to contemplate murdering innocent people and still do it, no rhetoric of any kind is penetrating your skull.
 
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evillawyer said:
You guys really don't understand that different speakers carry different persuasive force. If you think a middlin' comedian (Kathy Griffin) carries as much weight as the POTUS, you're sadly mistaken.
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So everyone that opposes Trump gets a free pass?

Got it.
 
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Mexico is now threatening to sue US because 3 Mexican nationalists were shopping. It doesnt get much ridiculous than that.
 
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ajvol01 said:
At least you’re finally honest about your loathing/hatred for America
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LOL, some of us just live in reality. Shouldn't you be tending to your fantasy world over in the Q thread?
 
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Beto O’Rourke Spreads Hoaxes on CNN; Jake Tapper Fails to Correct

Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-TX) used the occasion of the mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, this weekend to spread fake news Sunday about President Donald Trump’s policies and blame him for the violence.

O’Rourke, speaking to Jake Tapper of CNN on State of the Union while standing in El Paso, compared the president’s rhetoric to the Third Reich of Nazi Germany, and blamed Fox News and “the Internet” for the shooting. He also said the following:
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These are white men, motivated by the kind of fear this president traffics in. The mosque in Victoria, Texas, was burned to the ground on the same day that President Trump signed his order [sic] attempting to ban Muslim travel to the United States of America [sic], when he says after Charlottesville that Klansman and white supremacists and neo-Nazis are “very fine people” [sic], the commander-in-chief is sending a very public signal to the rest of this country about what is permissible, and in fact even what he encourages to happen. So let’s connect the dots here on what is happening and why it is happening and who is responsible for this right now. … You don’t get mass shootings like these [sic], you don’t torch mosques, you don’t put kids in cages [sic] until you have a president who has given people permission to do that and that is exactly what is happening in the United States of America today.​
Almost everything O’Rourke said was false:
 
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volbeast33 said:
To me the guy in El Paso is not a terrorist.... they are just descriptor terms that a stupid for people to argue over.... A terrorist to me is someone that belongs to group with matching ideas.... They typically have financial backing and even in several cases has govt backing.... an example of a white terrorist organization would be the Klan... Islamic terrorists and/or gang bangers actually give us something to fight against..... The El Paso guy and other white guys like him is much harder to figure out bc they are just random whack jobs
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They're all crazy, they're simply motivated in different ways. The El Paso killer was just as terroristic as the the 9/11 hijackers.

They both murdered innocents because of political bias.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The manifesto expresses the same point of view of Trump and his supporters. He drove 10 hours to a spot where he knew he could shoot Mexicans. He posted the manifesto on a white supremacy website.

You can't pass this off as just a troubled person.
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You can shoot Mexicans anywhere without driving 10 hours.
 
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Harris on Mass Shootings: There Are ‘Consequences’ to Trump ‘Sowing Hate’

Sunday on CNN, 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) said in the wake of the most recent mass shootings in Texas and Ohio, there were consequences to President Donald Trump “sowing hate and division in our country.”

Partial transcript as follows:
 
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ajvol01 said:
Troll along good buddy
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I can't help it because you don't have the intellectual capacity not to conflate my believing America isn't exceptional with "hate and loathing". That's literally the dumbest most mind numbingly idiotic thing I've read in a long time, which given this environment should be hard to distinguish - and yet it wasn't. I mean I didn't think you were that smart before, now I wonder if you were deprived of oxygen as a neonate.
 
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Septic said:
They're all crazy, they're simply motivated in different ways. The El Paso killer was just as terroristic as the the 9/11 hijackers.

They both murdered innocents because of political bias.
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I think someone like this will find motivation wherever they want to. If not this it’s something else. Planned parenthood, middle class pay gap, having student loans. Crazy will justify crazy.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
You loons created gun free zones. Get rid of that tripe then citizens can handle themselves.

And I’d bet we see a falloff in this craziness too.
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Let’s be honest here. I don’t know a single person who carries regularly who leave their weapon in their vehicle because they have to go into a “gun free zone” except schools, airports, or .gov buildings.
 
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volfanhill said:
I think someone like this will find motivation wherever they want to. If not this it’s something else. Planned parenthood, middle class pay gap, having student loans. Crazy will justify crazy.
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Oh, no doubt. In the end, murder is murder - no matter how spelled out.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Let’s be honest here. I don’t know a single person who carries regularly who leave their weapon in their vehicle because they have to go into a “gun free zone” except schools, airports, or .gov buildings.
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I don’t think the Walmart was a gun free zone either. I was actually kinda shocked a customer didn’t pop him.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I don’t think the Walmart was a gun free zone either. I was actually kinda shocked a customer didn’t pop him.
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I was trying to point out that gun free zones in general are just virtue signals and most people who carry couldn’t care less about that little sign. Now I for one won’t go into an establishment that decides to hang that sign up if it’s just me. But if we meet friends out some place to eat, shop, etc. I carry regardless of the sign. I think most people do.
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
You play the ovaltine decoder ring game with a 4chan troll.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see that the El Paso shooter had a Q tshirt and a MAGA hat. I'm not saying that's why he gunned those folks down, just that it wouldn't be shocking to find out he posted [Q DroPs] to internet message boards.
 
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