Should Players Get Paid?

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salutethehill said:
I can't imagine the effect on recruiting paying student-athletes would have. Expect those at the top to stay at the top....forever. And for many, if not most schools, paying student-athletes would be a tremendous financial strain.
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How is that different than the way college sports works now? The same teams already compete for national championships every year. The same teams already attract all the best players. By and large, the same teams that were good at college football and basketball when I was a kid in the 70s are still good at football and basketball. The teams that weren't mostly still aren't.

We just spent $50 million on a football facility, trying to buy our way back into the nation's elite. Most schools couldn't/wouldn't do that. If you're worried about competitive imbalance, why is that okay but compensating the actual players isn't?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
How is that different than the way college sports works now? The same teams already compete for national championships every year. The same teams already attract all the best players. By and large, the same teams that were good at college football and basketball when I was a kid in the 70s are still good at football and basketball. The teams that weren't mostly still aren't.

We just spent $50 million on a football facility, trying to buy our way back into the nation's elite. Most schools couldn't/wouldn't do that. If you're worried about competitive imbalance, why is that okay but compensating the actual players isn't?
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You speak as if the money came from revenue produced by the school.

There were probably people writing big checks to get those facilities built.

Something else that makes this unlike another business. People randomly writing checks with no personal benefit other than a tax write off.
 
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99gator said:
You speak as if the money came from revenue produces by the school.

There probably people writing big checks to get those facilities built.

Something else that makes this unlike another business. People randomly writing checks with no personal benefit other than a tax write off.
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The same people wouldn't write checks into a player stipend fund?
 
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You can't pay them or you will be required to pay every scholarship athlete the same amount of money whether he or she is a football player and on the rowing team. Ever heard of Title 9 - which lead to the creation of all the scholarships for non-revenue generating female sports. Also paying players could likely bankrupt many less than financially stable athletic departments across the NCAA.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
how would you feel if you did something for your job that allowed your company and bosses to make millions of dollars in revenue yet you saw $30,000 a year.
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Is this a joke? I'm pretty sure that most CEO's who make millions have employees that make $30K that are required for the company to operate thus generate revenue. It's all collective in a private company. This is a horrendous example.
 
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V O L S said:
Give them what an average college student makes at a 20-hour-per-week part-time job. I would bet that many players would work if they could. They bring in a ton of money and should at least be able to go to the grocery store or go to the movies.
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Yea you're right. I did see a bunch of UT football players looking in the trash for food and stuff when I went to a basketball game this winter. Some were dumpster diving and some were panhandling. Ain't nobody got time for that...
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
Who pays for all that?

TV contracts and advertising.

And why are there huge TV contracts and advertisers spending millions? The college athletes.


You really don't understand the company analogy. These aren't "average employees". There are the CEOs making the company (university/NCAA) millions of dollars. Yet they are compensated less than an average employee.

Coaches arent the CEOs, ADs aren't. People dont pay money to see them. They pay money to see the athletes. They deserve to be compensated fairly.
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I knew "fair" was going to be brought up. That's such a garbage term thrown out all over the place now as if its possible to make life "fair."

I don't think it's fair that I wasn't born into Trump family. Those Trump kids have access to tons of the things I'll never sniff. That just isn't fair man!
 
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patrick said:
You can't pay them or you will be required to pay every scholarship athlete the same amount of money whether he or she is a football player and on the rowing team. Ever heard of Title 9 - which lead to the creation of all the scholarships for non-revenue generating female sports. Also paying players could likely bankrupt many less than financially stable athletic departments across the NCAA.
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Title IX is going to be amended about 15 minutes after the NCAA loses the O'Bannon case.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
UT has spent dozens of millions of dollars on nice but unnecessary upgrades to almost every athletic facility on campus. The coaches make mllions of dollars. The money's there, should the universities find attracting top athletes is worth it.



Some schools would decide that football's not worth it. Other schools would double down and play players a nice salary.

Most of the people who post on this board think they believe in some flavor of free-market capitalism. I'm not sure why that's supposed to work in every walk of life except college athletics.
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It does work in college athletics - they are being compensated through a free education. And every athlete can choose this form of payment by becoming a student athlete by their choice or they can decline the offer and not play sports or enter into the free market and get a job that pays them in a different way through a paycheck. The student/athlete has options and choices.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Title IX is going to be amended about 15 minutes after the NCAA loses the O'Bannon case.
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It isn't that simple. There is no guarantee whether O'Bannon will prevail on the merits of the case; there have been multiple issues raised in that case. Whatever is decided in that case, the "ruling" will be appealed!

This being said the basic issue in the case (originally) was/is "profiting" from an amateur athlete's "likeness" - see EA Sports. The issue really does not involve pay for play.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Hahahaha. I'm sure LeGrand's making a killing doing "appearances." It's totally worth being in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
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I mean, that's not my point but ok.

You claimed that your first paycheck was greater than his and all I did was cite a few examples that made me think that it's simply not true.

Being paralyzed and in a wheel chair for the rest of his life weren't discussed until your comment above.
 
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