Should the government introduce price controls on necessary goods?

1.) Food Items 2.) Fuel 3.) Utilities 4.) Housing 5.) Labor

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#51
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turambar85 said:
I have worked full-time, do work full-time, am married, etc. What responsibilities are left? Are the barren and impotent not capable of being adults? Do I have to have a kid?
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yes but you are working "in transition." this is not your life or your future. edit: do you think it is a coincidence that many here had you pegged as an academic almost immediately?
 
#53
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droski said:
yes but you are working "in transition." this is not your life or your future. edit: do you think it is a coincidence that many here had you pegged as an academic almost immediately?
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I have two years off between undergraduate studies and my entry into a Philosophy graduate school. That is quite a long time, and my financial situation can get pretty heavy during this transition. This being a transition period does not make it easy, a joke, or carefree.
 
#54
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turambar85 said:
I have two years off between undergraduate studies and my entry into a Philosophy graduate school. That is quite a long time, and my financial situation can get pretty heavy during this transition. This being a transition period does not make it easy, a joke, or carefree.
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if you cared about your financial situation you wouldnt' be getting a graduate degree in philosophy.
 
#56
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droski said:
if you cared about your financial situation you wouldnt' be getting a graduate degree in philosophy.
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My wife is going to law school, philosophy professors make between 60-90 a year in good universities, and I care about finances more in the direction of sustaining a level of living, of not having want, than I do about being able to jump up social ladders and buy anything I want.
 
#57
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turambar85 said:
My wife is going to law school, philosophy professors make between 60-90 a year in good universities, and I care about finances more in the direction of sustaining a level of living, of not having want, than I do about being able to jump up social ladders and buy anything I want.
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You can thank capitalism for setting the pay for university professors at that level. Also, you can thank it for both the choices you were allowed to make in which school you'd like to go to and the money your wife will be able to earn as a lawyer.
 
#58
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turambar85 said:
My wife is going to law school, philosophy professors make between 60-90 a year in good universities, and I care about finances more in the direction of sustaining a level of living, of not having want, than I do about being able to jump up social ladders and buy anything I want.
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you seem to have a significant lack of drive. this explains your political views. the gov't or your wife should hand you everything. and you are high if you think landing a prof job is some sort of lock particurally with universities endowments down 40%. if you are coming from a mediocre grad program it's even more difficult. also keep in mind you will have to move wherever the job market is for your job. the women who wears the pants may not like your new location.
 
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#59
#59
I took a philosophy class in college only because it was required. The guy that taught it was in his early 30's and seemed to hate life. He also seemed to buy a lot of what he was selling.
 
#61
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droski said:
you seem to have a significant lack of drive. this explains your political views. the gov't or your wife should hand you everything. and you are high if you think landing a prof job is some sort of lock particurally with universities endowments down 40%. if you are coming from a mediocre grad program it's even more difficult. also keep in mind you will have to move wherever the job market is for your job. the women who wears the pants may not like your new location.
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Wow, that was an ignorant post, I would have kept that to myself. I have a lack of drive because I am not basely materialistic? I have a lack of drive because a combined income of 200,000 is enough for me to live happily and because I do what I love? What should the government hand me? I didn't mention a word about them. What should my wife hand me? She'll make a little more than me while she practices, then less when she works for an organization, but who the hell cares? If I were single, a prof. salary would be more than enough.

Also, who said I am coming from a mediocre program? When did I indicate that I don't know the difficulty of finding a job in the field, or that I didn't know that I may have to move to find one? And while some programs are struggling, it is not at all universal.
 
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utvolpj said:
thank capitalism? No way a philosophy professor is worth 90k on the free market
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There are other market forces at work though. If you generate sufficient student demand for your university you create the revenue to cover the operating costs. Given the need for philosophy classes in the curriculum and the number of available candidates relative to slots, the market certainly sets the price for the job.
 
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turambar85 said:
Wow, that was an ignorant post, I would have kept that to myself. I have a lack of drive because I am not basely materialistic? I have a lack of drive because a combined income of 200,000 is enough for me to live happily and because I do what I love? What should the government hand me? I didn't mention a word about them. What should my wife hand me? She'll make a little more than me while she practices, then less when she works for an organization, but who the hell cares? If I were single, a prof. salary would be more than enough.

Also, who said I am coming from a mediocre program? When did I indicate that I don't know the difficulty of finding a job in the field, or that I didn't know that I may have to move to find one? And while some programs are struggling, it is not at all universal.
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you by definition have a lack of drive if your greatest ambition is to be a philosophy professor. and pray tell what school do you go to?
 
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volinbham said:
There are other market forces at work though. If you generate sufficient student demand for your university you create the revenue to cover the operating costs. Given the need for philosophy classes in the curriculum and the number of available candidates relative to slots, the market certainly sets the price for the job.
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it was kind of a joke but I still view that demand as inflated. Is there truly a demand for that class or is it the need for business students to fill some stupid elective requirement to graduate?

As you can tell I'm still pissed Medieval studies was full and I had to struggle through Western Civ.
 
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utvolpj said:
it was kind of a joke but I still view that demand as inflated. Is there truly a demand for that class or is it the need for business students to fill some stupid elective requirement to graduate?

As you can tell I'm still pissed Medieval studies was full and I had to struggle through Western Civ.
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I'd say some philosophy classes are part of the core curriculum for all majors at most universities and rightfully so. I guess you could argue if that's true demand but in a sense it's not much different than getting features you didn't want or plan to use on a product you buy that otherwise fits your needs.
 
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droski said:
you by definition have a lack of drive if your greatest ambition is to be a philosophy professor. and pray tell what school do you go to?
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A lack of drive involves 4 years of undergraduate studies, 5-7 years of graduate studies, writing, teaching, etc.? Interesting. And I went to UT as an undergrad, but that was because of location. The graduate school you go to is what decides your job, and the schools I'm applying to are better than UT.
 
#70
#70
I support teachers and I believe the world needs good ones regardless of subject. My wife is a prof and I myself spent 6 years teaching high school english. That being said, the crap you have to go through to get a certificate to teach is enough to force you to set your goals higher and higher. They dont give those things away easily and to be honest, after all the piddily crap you have to go through, extending your education to become a prof really isnt that far fetched. Whats a few more years, after you bust your butt to get through? The hard part's done by that point, and if you really dig what you do, why not do it at the highest level?
 
#71
#71
volinbham said:
I guess it depends on the definition of "price controls". Utilities do face some "control" of their pricing via public boards and other mechanisms.

I thought OE was talking about government setting price levels.
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didn't price control cause alot of problems in Cali a few years ago when they had massive blackouts due to lack of energy?

people were blaming it on deregulation but the problem was that the cal gov wouldn't allow the energy companies to raise rates so they could invest to make and fix more plants.
 
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#72
turambar85 said:
A lack of drive involves 4 years of undergraduate studies, 5-7 years of graduate studies, writing, teaching, etc.? Interesting. And I went to UT as an undergrad, but that was because of location. The graduate school you go to is what decides your job, and the schools I'm applying to are better than UT.
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do you really think going to grad school is more difficult than working a real job with real obligations?
 
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turambar85 said:
A lack of drive involves 4 years of undergraduate studies, 5-7 years of graduate studies, writing, teaching, etc.? Interesting. And I went to UT as an undergrad, but that was because of location. The graduate school you go to is what decides your job, and the schools I'm applying to are better than UT.
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congratulations, you're applying to better schools. Maybe you can list your applications on your resume some day. I'm certain that potential employers will be blown away, much as I am right now.
 
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