Should the Osama death pictures be released?

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#126
I've been looking at those photo's looks like the two brothers and maybe the son, but not Bin Laden.
 
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#129
droski said:
I can't say i disagree with the logic. what's the upside to releasing them?
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I don't think there's an upside either. If the photos are released, they instantly become a symbol for martyrdom and jihad..
 
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VolDad said:
Seals don't mess around.
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They look pretty playful to me...

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#136
#136
Nah they should just keep them sealed up, i mean we trust them right? Shoot the most wanted terrorist in the world in the head, dump his body at sea 5 minutes later, sounds legit to me.
 
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Cartervol said:
Nah they should just keep them sealed up, i mean we trust them right? Shoot the most wanted terrorist in the world in the head, dump his body at sea 5 minutes later, sounds legit to me.
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It does seem a little against protocol. I mean, hell, in country our SOP was to hand over the bodies of HVTs to the Ugandans. They then placed the heads on pikes at the entrance to the FOBs.
 
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IPorange said:
Looks like it was designed to deflect radar, doesn't it?
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Helps some, as does the CARC paint, but the 10 meter ceiling is the main radar protection. Low, fast and good route planning is the way to protect a helicopter.
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therealUT said:
It does seem a little against protocol. I mean, hell, in country our SOP was to hand over the bodies of HVTs to the Ugandans. They then placed the heads on pikes at the entrance to the FOBs.
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I don't know what to make of it. I have little doubt Osama Bin Laden is dead. I have some serious doubts about the way it went down and what they actually did with the body.
 
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therealUT said:
It does seem a little against protocol. I mean, hell, in country our SOP was to hand over the bodies of HVTs to the Ugandans. They then placed the heads on pikes at the entrance to the FOBs.
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Are their many Africans doing security type work in Iraq? I read on some blog that many African forces were losing veterans who were going to work for the coalition.
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JTrainDavis said:
Are their many Africans doing security type work in Iraq? I read on some blog that many African forces were losing veterans who were going to work for the coalition.
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Contracted Ugandans provided all force protection at the FOBs in Iraq when I was there last.
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Cartervol said:
I don't know what to make of it. I have little doubt Osama Bin Laden is dead. I have some serious doubts about the way it went down and what they actually did with the body.
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And why does Barry want flag draped coffins and pics of "abuse" at Abu Ghraib released but not the photo with OBL head half blown off?
 
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volfanjustin said:
And why does Barry want flag draped coffins and pics of "abuse" at Abu Ghraib released but not the photo with OBL head half blown off?
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I am not a Obama fan but I have not heard him wanting those type pics released. I did find:

Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged...

The graphic nature of some of the images may explain the US President’s attempts to block the release of an estimated 2,000 photographs from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan despite an earlier promise to allow them to be published.

Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape' - Telegraph
 
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VolDad said:
I am not a Obama fan but I have not heard him wanting those type pics released. I did find:

Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged...

The graphic nature of some of the images may explain the US President’s attempts to block the release of an estimated 2,000 photographs from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan despite an earlier promise to allow them to be published.

Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape' - Telegraph
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When he first took office he wanted the pics released, he fought to get all of them released.
 
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volfanjustin said:
When he first took office he wanted the pics released, he fought to get all of them released.
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He did. Then after seeing the photos and listening to his military leaders who said that their release could endanger troops he changed his mind and has fought the court order.

Similar to what he is saying now.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Helps some, as does the CARC paint, but the 10 meter ceiling is the main radar protection. Low, fast and good route planning is the way to protect a helicopter.
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This is true. You can shape and add stealth treatments, but by it's nature of flight it is extremely difficult to make a helo low observable. CONOPS and active counter-radar measures are what will really get the job done.
 
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VolDad said:
He did. Then after seeing the photos and listening to his military leaders who said that their release could endanger troops he changed his mind and has fought the court order.

Similar to what he is saying now.
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Don't try to rationalize with vfj. When someone changes their mind due to having access to new/more information that only makes them an indecisive waffler. Weak spined bastages, they need to stick with their original positions regardless.......
 
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#150
#150
so apparently that is a stealth chopper that has never been seen before and we want it back (before they give it to the Chinese)
 
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