SI is Pizzed that Bama made it!!

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VolPack22 said:
My sentiments exactly. Why is Alabama’s 24-3 game against Oklahoma ignored but South Carolina’s 27-3 game against Ole Miss held against them? There is a huge double standard in this sport. If your name is Alabama, Ohio State, or Notre Dame you can get away with murder.
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Because Alabama has the win over Georgia to fall back on. Plus South Carolina and Missouri who are ranked. And a blowout at LSU that's a good win.

They have arguably the most impressive collection of wins in the entire nation. Nobody has as many ranked wins.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Because Alabama has the win over Georgia to fall back on. Plus South Carolina and Missouri who are ranked. And a blowout at LSU that's a good win.

They have arguably the most impressive collection of wins in the entire nation. Nobody has as many ranked wins.
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Last I checked, the committee thought Georgia was the 12th best team in the country after that Ole Miss game. If they thought so highly of Georgia why did they drop 9 spots? Didn’t South Carolina just beat the 12th best team according to the committee? They pick and choose which criteria to use and sometimes they outright don’t even use criteria and use the “eye test”. How tf is that quantifiable? It’s all subjective.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Last I checked, the committee thought Georgia was the 12th best team in the country after that Ole Miss game. If they thought so highly of Georgia why did they drop 9 spots? Didn’t South Carolina just beat the 12th best team according to the committee? They pick and choose which criteria to use and sometimes they outright don’t even use criteria and use the “eye test”. How tf is that quantifiable? It’s all subjective.
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This is the crux of it. If the committee was consistent all year and Bama is in, then so be it. But the fact of the matter is the committee is using whatever criteria makes Bama look the best and not applying it the same to anyone else. Yes, Bama has the most and best wins, but in no world have they been punished for their horrendous losses like other teams have and at the same time they have been credited for wins more than other teams.

This isn’t Bama hate, it is what happened. How folks don’t see this is beyond me.
 
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rjd970 said:
This is the crux of it. If the committee was consistent all year and Bama is in, then so be it. But the fact of the matter is the committee is using whatever criteria makes Bama look the best and not applying it the same to anyone else. Yes, Bama has the most and best wins, but in no world have they been punished for their horrendous losses like other teams have and at the same time they have been credited for wins more than other teams.

This isn’t Bama hate, it is what happened. How folks don’t see this is beyond me.
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And they barely escaped their two best wins AT HOME by a combined 6 points. Those LSU and Mizzou wins are laughable because both of those teams are hot garbage, Mizzou didn’t even have their starting QB.
 
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Orange931 said:
And they barely escaped their two best wins AT HOME by a combined 6 points. Those LSU and Mizzou wins are laughable because both of those teams are hot garbage, Mizzou didn’t even have their starting QB.
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And LSU is a one dimensional football team. If you take away that win vs South Carolina that was heavily aided by some of the worst officiating I’ve ever seen then they are 7-5 (4-4), finishing 11th in the conference. Yeah that’s such a feather in the cap for Alabama. We went down there and destroyed them a couple of years ago and had their fans emptying out in the 3rd quarter. And that team played for the SEC Championship. That was something to be proud of. This year’s LSU team is very average.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Disagree. Oklahoma is still a top 10 team based on composite recruiting talent. They've just had a bad season on offense. But talent wise they're not bad. Vandy just pushed us in a do or die game. They're not the Vandy of old. That's not a bad loss.
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WTH does composite recruiting talent have to do with how good a team performs? OU is not a top 30 team because they didn't get it done on the field! Vandy didn't push us. We manhandled them. Vandy was done in the 2nd qtr.
 
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901 Orange said:
You're right the W/L records are fact. That means the wins matter too. Bama beat UGA, SC, and Mizzou. Who did Miami beat that's better than any of those 3??
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I get it. However... if you don't use hard numbers, you leave it up to some dopes to arbitrarily decide who is "better". We don't want that. UT will get screwed every time. History has proven this fact. They simply need to create a well thought out formula that we can all SEE and use that metric. There is no better way to do it. If so... let me know what you think.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Alabama is only in because the rest of the contenders for the #12 spot are pure garbage.

The one hit against Alabama is that they can't win on the road. Outside of LSU and Wisconsin, their road performances have been dreadful.
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Alabama is in because of name and Sankey. Nothing else..
 
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barrylee said:
Alabama is in because of name and Sankey. Nothing else..
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Who else to put? Personally, I might have gone with one of the 10-2 Big12 teams (leaning BYU since they beat SMU) but even they aren't a great contender. So many teams destined for #12 choked and that got Alabama back in.
 
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LAVol1 said:
WTH does composite recruiting talent have to do with how good a team performs? OU is not a top 30 team because they didn't get it done on the field! Vandy didn't push us. We manhandled them. Vandy was done in the 2nd qtr.
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Most teams that are ranked high in the polls at the end of the season tend to be the teams that recruit the best. That's why recruiting rankings matter. If you think Oklahoma isn't better than their record then you don't know football. I know coaches like Josh Huepel aren't pretending they're an easy opponent because they went 6-6.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Most teams that are ranked high in the polls at the end of the season tend to be the teams that recruit the best. That's why recruiting rankings matter. If you think Oklahoma isn't better than their record then you don't know football. I know coaches like Josh Huepel aren't pretending they're an easy opponent because they went 6-6.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I probably know football every bit as well as you. A team is not as good as their recruiting. That's only an indication of their potential. Coaching, player development, and team chemistry are also major factors in a team's performance. A team is only as good as their record. There is no other way to grade a team. 2024 OU is not a top-tier SEC team, no matter how many 5* players they have on their roster. If you think otherwise, then you don't know football.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Most teams that are ranked high in the polls at the end of the season tend to be the teams that recruit the best. That's why recruiting rankings matter. If you think Oklahoma isn't better than their record then you don't know football. I know coaches like Josh Huepel aren't pretending they're an easy opponent because they went 6-6.
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You are what your record says. Oklahoma is a scrub team this year.
 
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LAVol1 said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I probably know football every bit as well as you. A team is not as good as their recruiting. That's only an indication of their potential. Coaching, player development, and team chemistry are also major factors in a team's performance. A team is only as good as their record. There is no other way to grade a team. 2024 OU is not a top-tier SEC team, no matter how many 5* players they have on their roster. If you think otherwise, then you don't know football.
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Orange931 said:
You are what your record says. Oklahoma is a scrub team this year.
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What would Oklahoma's record be if they played Indiana or Penn State's schedule?
 
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Who would have to win/lose on championship day to knock Alabama out of consideration for the playoffs, or are they a lock no matter what happens?
Anyone with a brain knows Alabama doesn't deserve to get in. They're just in by name recognition and branding alone.
 
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mscc1998 said:
Who would have to win/lose on championship day to knock Alabama out of consideration for the playoffs, or are they a lock no matter what happens?
Anyone with a brain knows Alabama doesn't deserve to get in. They're just in by name recognition and branding alone.
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The only thing that can knock them out is if Clemson wins and the committee deems SMU worthy. But we all know what they are going to choose 💰💰💰
 
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VolPack22 said:
The only thing that can knock them out is if Clemson wins and the committee deems SMU worthy. But we all know what they are going to choose 💰💰💰
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Under normal conditions, I’d say you are correct. Looking at the other side of the coin though, it won’t be an easy decision. If SMU loses and they drop them out, that sends a bad message to those teams playing in a conference championship game. It has been said that a loss in a conference championship game should not affect a team who was in before the game.

Personally I think all games should come into play in the decision but they didn’t ask me. If SMU loses and they drop them out and leave Bama in, there will be a ton of screaming about SEC bias and Greg Sankey’s influence (which he certainly has). It comes down to which hill the committee wants to die on. Either way somebody is going to be pissed and screaming.
 
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