SI is Pizzed that Bama made it!!

[VolPack22]

What is considered UT's marquee win this season?

There really aren’t any marquee wins, just solid wins. Alabama is a top 15 win but nothing special. But we also didn’t lose to Arkansas by 3 touchdowns. We actually held the lead until the last 2 minutes of the game. That’s basically what happened with Alabama-Oklahoma. If we had lost to Arkansas by 3 touchdowns you bet your ass we aren’t in the playoff. They would have ranked Alabama ahead of us, even with a better record and the head to head.

 

[sami]

3 of the Big Ten teams have 1 loss or less and the fourth only has 2 losses. They are never going to keep those types of records in that conference out of the CFP no matter what we think. And I’m glad you brought up SEC road games are hard so yeah let’s look at their records and total point differential in those games. It’s pretty evident Ole Miss and South Carolina completely out-class Alabama in that department.

Alabama 1-3 (-4)

Ole Miss 2-2 (+46)

South Carolina 3-1 (+70)

Don't you get it? It doesn't f***king matter! You could compare resumes from here to kingdom come, and Alabama is getting the nod.
There are three SEC schools that matter - Alabama, Georgia, and Texas. One way or another, those three were going to be in this thing along with other power schools like Ohio State, Penn State, and Notre Dame.

Comparing resumes is a colossal waste of time when it comes to one of these schools. If Georgia had three losses, the "committee" would be doing cartwheels to make sure they were in. They create interest and bring ratings. Period, end of story.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

At the end of the day you are what your record says, and your record is more than talent...it is coaching, resources, etc...in addition to talent.

Yes people care about yesterday, as a PREDICTOR of how good they will be. During the season that goes out the window because we have ACTUAL results. Bama ACTUALLY lost to Vandy and OK and that is a fact.

So you think our coaches wouldn't have a preference if we were matched up against 5-7 Auburn versus a 5-7 team from the ACC like Virginia if a playoff berth was on the line? All teams with the same record are the same right? Playing 5-7 Auburn with its top 10 recruiting classes year in and year out should be just the same as 5-7 UVA that's never had a top 20 class in their history?

 

[rjd970]

Can't belive you're making me defend freaking Bama smh. When both teams lose multiple games they shouldn't, the wins absolutely matter. If I have 1 more loss than you, but I played 5 teams that were in the CFP race to your zero, and I beat 4 of those 5 teams, my argument is stronger than yours. You can put any teams in that same scenario and my stance would still be the same. I could careless that it happens to be Bama.

You are defending Bama, I'm not making you. My point all along is at the end of the day Bama has 3 losses, two of which are to OK and Vandy (just for emphasis, this is Vandy). Miami only has two losses, and I'll concede, an easier schedule.

If you can honestly sit there and genuinely believe that your argument would hold for any team not named Bama with the same resume, then so be it. However, in my opinion, we would have not gotten in with the same resume and Miami would be in for all the reasons I outlined. Bama is in because of brand, not merit.

 

[rjd970]

So you think our coaches wouldn't have a preference if we were matched up against 5-7 Auburn versus a 5-7 team from the ACC like Virginia if a playoff berth was on the line? All teams with the same record are the same right? Playing 5-7 Auburn with its top 10 recruiting classes year in and year out should be just the same as 5-7 UVA that's never had a top 20 class in their history?

This is a hypothetical that can't happen, and I don't know what our coaches would want...nobody does except them.

And for clarification I don't think all teams with a 5-7 record are the same. But in this instance, we have a handful of teams with 3-losses all grouped in the rough 11-15 spots. They are ranked that way because they are comparable, otherwise they would be grouped with some 3 loss teams in the 20's. What is different here is now there is a 3-loss team being bumped ahead at the expense of a 2-loss team with a very close ranking. That is suspect, and it has playoff implications now. This is the same nonsense that got Bama in over an undefeated FSU last year. There are shenanigans with this playoff selection process and it is being driven by agendas.

Any objective argument for Bama can be countered with an objective argument against. It's a futile exercise, but to not recognize the agenda-driven process is outweighing the objective process is being naive with wings.

 

[BDP!]

Miami would score more than 3 points against a bad sooner team.

And they would beat Candy

 

[CPVOL]

College Football is a cash cow. Don’t think for a second that money and TV doesn’t play into it.

We let in Bama=$$$$$
We let in Miami=$$

It’s not that hard.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

This is a hypothetical that can't happen, and I don't know what our coaches would want...nobody does except them.

You're delusional if you think a single coach in America would take 5-7 Auburn with its talent profile as an opponent over 5-7 Virginia. These guys grind on the recruiting trail for a reason. They know talent matters. They also know that just because two teams have the same record that doesn't make those two similar in terms of talent. Every coach will fear the athletes at Auburn even if they're 5-7. If you can't acknowledge this then we don't need to discuss this topic further cause you're too far gone.

 

[rjd970]

You're delusional if you think a single coach in America would take 5-7 Auburn with its talent profile as an opponent over 5-7 Virginia. These guys grind on the recruiting trail for a reason. They know talent matters. They also know that just because two teams have the same record that doesn't make those two similar in terms of talent. Every coach will fear the athletes at Auburn even if they're 5-7. If you can't acknowledge this then we don't need to discuss this topic further cause you're too far gone.

Talent isn't the only thing. Like I said, if it was, there would be no need to play the games. Right?

You are dealing in hypotheticals like they are fact. I'm dealing in what actually happened, because, you know, it is fact.

 

[FanDude]

The consternation about Alabama getting in over Miami is mostly that Alabama is never punished for losses that would drag down other teams. Losing to Vanderbilt, getting annihilated by a mediocre Oklahoma -- either of these would disqualify another team, but not Bama. Neither of Miami's losses are as bad as those two. I think it's clear the committee is mostly focused on horse trading between the SEC and the Big Ten:
Bama gets in but the Big Ten gets to host two first round games.

Bammer is not punished for losses like they are not punished for holding, pass interference, etc., etc.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Talent isn't the only thing. Like I said, if it was, there would be no need to play the games. Right?

You are dealing in hypotheticals like they are fact. I'm dealing in what actually happened, because, you know, it is fact.

Never said talent was the only thing. Coaching matters a lot as well. My point was there's a difference in "bad" teams. Oklahoma and Auburn type of "bad" ain't the same as Virginia and Cal type of "bad". Oklahoma and Auburn can have bad seasons and still be tougher outs than the typical 6-6/5-7 team that doesn't recruit at their level. I would even go so far as to say teams like Oklahoma and Auburn are tougher outs than teams with better records in conferences that don't have a lot of programs that recruit at a high level like the Big 12 and ACC.

 

[Volfan574]

This is what I think of Bama, Sankey and the committee. Roll boogers roll!

 

[Orange-Blooded]

Alabama is a better team than Miami. They played a tougher schedule. Had better wins. And will be favored by Vegas to do better in the playoffs than Miami.

You can hate Bama all you want but these are the facts. The committee got it right. They deserve to be in over Miami

to me is a toss up who is better, but who do you think wins in a shoot out between those 2 teams. because both Ds are sub par this year

 

[901 Orange]

So theoretically if Alabama loses to Western Kentucky, South Florida, and Mercer but win the rest of their games, they would still be a deserving CFP participant?

You sound ridiculous now bro. Vandy & OU ain't non P4 schools.

 

[901 Orange]

And GT took Georgia to 8 OT in Athens. So what’s the difference there?

Did GT win or lose to UGA?? If you wanna talk about almost, Vandy almost beat Texas.

 

[adam.vol]

The critics are correct: The College Football Playoff committee is not rewarding strength of schedule

Synopsis: The committee is noticeably inconsistent. Big 12 is as bothered by Boise State’s SOS as we are about ND’s.

 

[901 Orange]

You are defending Bama, I'm not making you. My point all along is at the end of the day Bama has 3 losses, two of which are to OK and Vandy (just for emphasis, this is Vandy). Miami only has two losses, and I'll concede, an easier schedule.

If you can honestly sit there and genuinely believe that your argument would hold for any team not named Bama with the same resume, then so be it. However, in my opinion, we would have not gotten in with the same resume and Miami would be in for all the reasons I outlined. Bama is in because of brand, not merit.

My stance is they were never back far enough to fall out the conversation. Bama was 4-0 with a win over UGA when they lost to Vandy. They fell 6 spots after that loss. They beat SC & lost to us the next 2 weeks. Obviously SC is a strong win & we were 11th at the time, so it's not a bad loss. They were 15th with a 4-2 record with half the season to go. On what planet can any team not move up in 6 weeks with the right schedule?? They then beat 2 ranked teams back to back. Mizzou was 6-1 #21 and LSU was 6-2 #15 which put Bama at #7 going into the the OU game. They fell 6 spots after that loss. Vandy and OU are both bowl eligible SEC teams, they're not some none P4 losses. I get it, they lost 3 games but they were ranked high enough to absorb 2 different 6 spot falls in the rankings. They beat too many good teams not to move back up, it has nothing to do with merit.

 

[901 Orange]

You are defending Bama, I'm not making you. My point all along is at the end of the day Bama has 3 losses, two of which are to OK and Vandy (just for emphasis, this is Vandy). Miami only has two losses, and I'll concede, an easier schedule.

If you can honestly sit there and genuinely believe that your argument would hold for any team not named Bama with the same resume, then so be it. However, in my opinion, we would have not gotten in with the same resume and Miami would be in for all the reasons I outlined. Bama is in because of brand, not merit.

If u need anymore proof just look at where Ole Miss and SC are ranked. Ole Miss is 2 spots behind Bama and they started the season near Bama in the rankings. Bama's resume is a little stronger because of Mizzou & LSU. SC is 3 spots behind Bama and 1 spot behind Ole Miss. They were nowhere near the top 10 when the season started. They also lost to Bama & Ole Miss.

 

[VolPack22]

You sound ridiculous now bro. Vandy & OU ain't non P4 schools.

You sound ridiculous defending Alabama. Answer the question and let us know what you really think. If they had lost all three of those non conference games but gone undefeated would you feel the same way? You said the wins mattered. How much would they matter if they lost to USF?

 

[VolPack22]

Did GT win or lose to UGA?? If you wanna talk about almost, Vandy almost beat Texas.

You’re crazy if you think a game that went to 8 OT is viewed anywhere close to a game finishing in regulation. 2 point conversions are not a valid way to determine winning and losing and everyone knows it. If we want to talk about almost, Alabama almost has a halfway decent résumé. If you can’t win more than 1 conference game on the road then you shouldn’t even be in the conversation. It’s laughable.

 

[VolPack22]

If u need anymore proof just look at where Ole Miss and SC are ranked. Ole Miss is 2 spots behind Bama and they started the season near Bama in the rankings. Bama's resume is a little stronger because of Mizzou & LSU. SC is 3 spots behind Bama and 1 spot behind Ole Miss. They were nowhere near the top 10 when the season started. They also lost to Bama & Ole Miss.

So we are to take this biased committee as proof? Come on now. Their rankings aren’t proof of other than showing they want to prop up the Big Ten.

 

[GVol1966]

Alabama is a better team than Miami. They played a tougher schedule. Had better wins. And will be favored by Vegas to do better in the playoffs than Miami.

You can hate Bama all you want but these are the facts. The committee got it right. They deserve to be in over Miami.

Bama that only scored 3 vs Oklahoma??

 

[VolPack22]

Bama that only scored 3 vs Oklahoma??

My sentiments exactly. Why is Alabama’s 24-3 game against Oklahoma ignored but South Carolina’s 27-3 game against Ole Miss held against them? There is a huge double standard in this sport. If your name is Alabama, Ohio State, or Notre Dame you can get away with murder.

 

[GVol1966]

My sentiments exactly. Why is Alabama’s 24-3 game against Oklahoma ignored but South Carolina’s 27-3 game against Ole Miss held against them? There is a huge double standard in this sport. If your name is Alabama, Ohio State, or Notre Dame you can get away with murder.

$$$$$$

 

[Chad F]

Pat Forde is an idiotic hack who has slandered Tennessee and gone out of his way to trash our program every chance he gets. He can stuff his d-bag opinions up his backside.

But Alabama does suck.