SIAP John Crompton tells Bama fans...

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TGVol said:
About 80% of this :crazy: forum?

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How shocked will Layla be when this is what she sees at her first Tuscaloosa pool party?
 
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It's a shame there is such a list. All these guys gave it their best shot.

1. Daniel Lincoln - Navy Seal
2. Matt Simms - Current NY Jet
3. Randy Sanders - Owner of 2 NC rings
4. Fulmer (He moves to #1 a times) - VLF and NC ring owner
5. Crompton - Got drafted into the NFL.
6. Palardy - Future NFL punter
 
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Best I remember, the whole team liked him. And if people would be honest, if you had polled Vol fans everywhere at, say, about 7 PM Eastern time on that fateful Tuesday evening, they would have said they liked LK also. I don't remember the talk radio airwaves earlier that day burning up with people saying we've got the wrong coach, I hate him, etc. The only reason I was upset with his leaving was because I DID like him and believed he'd get us back on track. I still say what he did pales in comparison to the damage Dooley did.
 
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Crompton was a top 5 prostyle qb coming out of highschool. Kiffin didn't make him look any better than when he played against some teams as a freshman and showed a rocket arm.
They both live off the ga game. People seem to forget the auburn, ucla and ole miss games where he looked like trash and kiffin called terrible games to boot.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Only from the true rednecks.
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I never understood all the hate for Clausen. Was it because he wasn't Peyton or Tee? Honestly, he won me over in his first game against Bama when he got his helmet ripped off and kept scrambling for a first down.

As for Crompton, Kiffin did help him look better than he did previously, so his comments make sense to me. Crompton bought into what Kiffin was selling and it helped him get to the pros, regardless of how many times he has been cut. Another Vol that fans love to rag on, Marsalis Teague, did well as a receiver under Kiffin as a freshman. Then when Dooley came in, he asked Teague to move to DB in the fall of 2010....

Many of us Vol fans bought into Lane and I believe we are still paying for doing so. Especially after watching Tajh Boyd, Bryce Petty, and the DC leadership of John Chavis at LSU. That's where my bitterness toward Kiffin comes in, I guess, from all that has been lost.
 
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Freak said:
Good point about Cutcliffe.
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Duke is in the ACC. We play Bama every year. Given the way Kiffypoo left and ended up with an ArchRival...it just doesn't lend to a simplistic understanding of Crompton's statement. Manning's statement is rather benign compared to Cromp's. JMO don't ban me. :)
 
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Crompton bounced back pretty well his senior year. Seems like Kiffin figured out that rolling him out worked pretty well and it always appeared that helped get him in the groove.

Having said that, Cutcliffe decided he'd rather start a QB with a broken thumb who was addicted to pain killers than Crompton. I'm not sure his inability to make an NFL team should come as much surprise.
 
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Congrats to TideSports.com for tracking down probably the only player from Tenn 2009 that would say nice things about Kiffin. This column gives a false impression of the season Crompton actually had in '09. His performances against UCLA and in the first half of the Auburn game are some of the worst quarterback play I have ever seen from a Tenn starter. Crompton was a 6'4 230 lb qb with a good arm and above average athleticism. He was a can't miss prospect that missed - badly.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
People can mock all they want but if Kiffin comes in, keeps his mouth shut, and does his job he will be an asset to Bama's team. Like him or not, the guy knows X's and O's and he knows how to develop a QB. I think some of you will be surprised by Alabama's offense this season.

Crompton has every right to feel the way he does about Kiffin. He helped turn Crompton into a servicable QB.
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I'm not certain this statement is true. Every facet of this statement when asked to a USC fan can be refuted. Would Matt Barkley say the same thing? Let's be honest about Kiffin at UT, had he won the Bama game it would have been a success but he BLEW the gift Ingram gave him with his x and o's in the last minute of the game.
 
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Vol logic said:
I'm not certain this statement is true. Every facet of this statement when asked to a USC fan can be refuted. Would Matt Barkley say the same thing? Let's be honest about Kiffin at UT, had he won the Bama game it would have been a success but he BLEW the gift Ingram gave him with his x and o's in the last minute of the game.
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after that fumble UT drove for a TD, recovered an onside kick and drove into position to kick a winning FG. All of that was accomplished in less than 4min. That took coaching and was against one of the best to ever wear a headset.
 
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utvolpj said:
after that fumble UT drove for a TD, recovered an onside kick and drove into position to kick a winning FG. All of that was accomplished in less than 4min. That took coaching and was against one of the best to ever wear a headset.
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These are facts that many around here can't see for their blind hatred.
 
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utvolpj said:
after that fumble UT drove for a TD, recovered an onside kick and drove into position to kick a winning FG. All of that was accomplished in less than 4min. That took coaching and was against one of the best to ever wear a headset.
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I'll give the little weasel props for good game there.

I'll also add that gem of a game 2 weeks later against ole miss.

D. McCluster 25 att 282 yrds 11.3 avg 4 td 71 long.
 
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UTProf said:
Two things: 1. if someone gives you a chance when you know you probably deserve to ride the pine or even if they just give you chance period then more likely than not you're going to be grateful/say nice things about the person 2. when your self-esteem is shot or you're having any mental blocks (emotional/self-esteem wise/etc.) or even if you're, as you put it, 'downtrodden' you're more apt to give credit to others when you succeeed. Those with low self-esteem are notorious for never thinking they can do it. They can't fathom that they might actually be good at something or improve at something and have a tendency to give credit to others when more often than not they did it themselves with no more help than someone saying 'you can (or will) do this.' They forget their accomplishments as soon as they happen and write off their talent. That's why low self-esteem can be so darned destructive.

I'm not sure on the NFL thing but Fulmer's players did pretty darn well for themselves in the Pros, imo as did a few of Kiffin's (if one year can be counted as making them such). Still I see that side of the debate as a red herring at worst and just a waste of time at best. Just something that will just run everyone in circles if we choose to engage it, especially given the counterpoints that could be brought up regarding Kiffin's USC players. That's just an endless cycle of madness where folks can argue either side ad nauseum.
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There's a lot in your post I can agree with in regards to the low esteem portion.

As for Fulmer's guys, yep did well, but it was a NFL coach if I remember right who said they hadn't coached up. I'd assume he'd know having had direct contact with them.
 
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gnm53108 said:
I'll give the little weasel props for good game there.

I'll also add that gem of a game 2 weeks later against ole miss.

D. McCluster 25 att 282 yrds 11.3 avg 4 td 71 long.
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No doubt that was bad.
I'm sure that it had nothing to do with backlash from the great cheeseburger robbery.
 
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Kiffin had his good and bad. For every story like Crompton's there's another that is not flattering.

He's been humbled from the comments I've heard. He totally mishandled things at UT. USC, even on reduced schollies arguably had the highest star ratings top to bottom. He flubbed it.

It won't be hard for him at Bama. Vanilla offense.
 
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