So...the HEAT is already on New UF Coach Jim McElwain

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lawgator1 said:
You are not giving our offense enough credit for their experience in getting off the field after three downs. They are really good at that.
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Lol awesome. Honestly this should be a good game this year as long as BOTH O lines show up. UF is stiil a very strong defensive team with one of the best secondary corps in college football and the best CB. I think while I like our RB tandem I think the breadth of our WR corp is is stronger. It's going to be hard to cover all of them on every play. And Dobbs is dangerous if he gets out of the pocket.

If one teams O line implodes it could be a really long day for that team
 
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Lulu said:
In Kentucky?
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:lolabove:

I guess we now know the real reason Lane is transferring hundreds of miles and a time zone away from his hometown of Winter Haven, Florida.

To be closer to his family keep from being buried behind Kelvin Taylor and Jordan Scarlett on the depth chart.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Grier is an upgrade over Driskel and Harris. Jury's out on what happens when the lights come on and the bullets start flying.

I get the optimism over Dobbs, but I can promise you our secondary will be the best he'll face all year...our defense is much more athletic than Iowa and more talented than South Carolina.

The infusion of talent on UT's DL concerns me. You guys made huge strides there.
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UT has lost at the LOS more often than not against UF and typically on both sides. Last year the OL got mauled and the DL kinda held its own against a bad UF offense. I think UTs DL is finally in a spot where they can make a difference and not just stalemate.

Comparing Iowa and USC to UF on that side of the ball is not even worth the time. If Dobbs has to fling it all over the field to be productive UT will struggle against the better Ds (which includes UF)

UTs offense is gonna be better than last year because of better more experienced talent at the skill positions including QB. If the OL has made strides it will be substantially better, but that has yet to be determined.

UT should win........maybe :unsure:
 
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Had Bajak channeled his inner Johnny Majors (via Robert Neyland) last year UT wins an ugly game by 2 scores with a terrible OL and a statue under center.
 
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BeecherVol said:
UT has lost at the LOS more often than not against UF and typically on both sides. Last year the OL got mauled and the DL kinda held its own against a bad UF offense. I think UTs DL is finally in a spot where they can make a difference and not just stalemate.

Comparing Iowa and USC to UF on that side of the ball is not even worth the time. If Dobbs has to fling it all over the field to be productive UT will struggle against the better Ds (which includes UF)

UTs offense is gonna be better than last year because of better more experienced talent at the skill positions including QB. If the OL has made strides it will be substantially better, but that has yet to be determined.

UT should win........maybe :unsure:
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Good post as usual Beech.

I feel like the Dobbs hype was a product of who UT played. Don't get me wrong, kid is a definite upgrade over Worley. It took Bama's defense several series to figure Dobbs out.

But running circles around Iowa, South Carolina and Vandy doesn't exactly strike fear into UF's defense.

If we can make him throw, UT could be in for a long day.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Good post as usual Beech.

I feel like the Dobbs hype was a product of who UT played. Don't get me wrong, kid is a definite upgrade over Worley. It took Bama's defense several series to figure Dobbs out.

But running circles around Iowa, South Carolina and Vandy doesn't exactly strike fear into UF's defense.

If we can make him throw, UT could be in for a long day.
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The USC and Iowa games have thrown the hype into overdrive no doubt. Its obvious that his abilities fit the scheme much better than Worley. The question is, is he ready to to do that against an entire schedule?

If Im UT, Im making Florida's offense beat me. I would feel good enough about my D in this game that you shouldn't need a lot of points. You give UF a couple of short fields and some MO and you are back to the 14' ending.
 
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I've said this before, but I think UT breaks the streak this year. Florida's O-line will look about what like Tennessee's did last year - 5 pigs hopelessly fighting over a milk dud. Probably give up about 35-40 sacks on the year. I could be wrong, but I see a bunch of freshman on their 2 deep and that usually spells bad news.

Barnett and the rest of that front 7 should have a field day.
 
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i think another area where UT might be better than UF is linebacker. If your guys are healthy your starters might be better than ours, but we can rotate guys better than you can at this point. IMO of course. and the main challenge for UT's backers is experience, and against a relatively simple system that should, allow our newer backers to play better than they might against other teams.
 
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I would break down the units as such

UT OL
UF OL

UT WR
UF WR

UT RB = UF RB

UT QB
UF QB

UF TE
UT TE

UT DL = UF DL (I want to give UT the edge but i know UF returns some good players)

UT LB
UF LB

UF DB
UT DB

i don't think in any case it is one schools unit being way better than the other.
 
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LouderVol said:
I would break down the units as such

UT OL
UF OL

UT WR
UF WR

UT RB = UF RB

UT QB
UF QB

UF TE
UT TE

UT DL = UF DL (I want to give UT the edge but i know UF returns some good players)

UT LB
UF LB

UF DB
UT DB

i don't think in any case it is one schools unit being way better than the other.
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I think the real item is not how they compare against themselves but how they matchup against opponent. I'd but the UT DL vs UF OL as more in our favor than UF DL vs UT OL. Whoever has more rushing yardage will win and with us for once having the more mobile QB I like our odds. Nearly every win notched by UF against us recently was on a few QB scrambles in an ugly scrum.
 
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FTR I see another ugly struggling game. I do think the UF secondary will cause Dobbs fits. A pick 6 might even have us on the ropes but UT defense for once does more than stalemate and helps win us a game. We haven't had that kind of defense in a long time.
 
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BeecherVol said:
The USC and Iowa games have thrown the hype into overdrive no doubt. Its obvious that his abilities fit the scheme much better than Worley. The question is, is he ready to to do that against an entire schedule?

If Im UT, Im making Florida's offense beat me. I would feel good enough about my D in this game that you shouldn't need a lot of points. You give UF a couple of short fields and some MO and you are back to the 14' ending.
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We need turnovers and points from ST and/or D
 
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DD4ME said:
I think the real item is not how they compare against themselves but how they matchup against opponent. I'd but the UT DL vs UF OL as more in our favor than UF DL vs UT OL. Whoever has more rushing yardage will win and with us for once having the more mobile QB I like our odds. Nearly every win notched by UF against us recently was on a few QB scrambles in an ugly scrum.
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Agreed. I guess the point should have been, when was the last time the comparison I made have held water? Most years those side by side would have leaned more Florida, now it seems to lean more UT. Some homerism there I am sure
 
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I don't like that I really like the gators coach . He sounds humble and nice guy to play for in interviews . Somehow I want u all to lose every game but it not be his fault lol
 
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Just FYI the expected starts on the OL will be:

As of today

2 RS SR, Halter and Thurman
2 RS SO, Riles and Dillard
1 SO, Sharpe

first 3 off the bench (right now)
2 RS FR
1 FR

Depth is the issue. Injuries at that position will be huge for Florida.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Just FYI the expected starts on the OL will be:

As of today

2 RS SR, Halter and Thurman
2 RS SO, Riles and Dillard
1 SO, Sharpe

first 3 off the bench (right now)
2 RS FR
1 FR

Depth is the issue. Injuries at that position will be huge for Florida.
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Pretty veteran overall but it's like when a sports guy on Nashville radio was talking about Vandy today. "They have a lot of guys returning, but is that a good thing?" We have the same issue though. Lots of snaps, none of them very pretty.
 
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99bubble said:
He may not start game 1, but if you're being objective, you have to think health will be a concern for your QB behind that line.
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As if Dobbs is playing behind Nebraska's '95 o-line. I missed where I said OL depth wasn't a concern for us.

If Grier stays healthy, Harris probably won't start another game at UF.

McElwain is saying all the right things about not naming a starter, but Grier outperformed Harris in spring drills and again in fall camp.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
As if Dobbs is playing behind Nebraska's '95 o-line. I missed where I said OL depth wasn't a concern for us.

If Grier stays healthy, Harris probably won't start another game at UF.

McElwain is saying all the right things about not naming a starter, but Grier outperformed Harris in spring drills and again in fall camp.
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How mobile is Harris? Yes, our O-Line is questionable, but it was not questionable last year. It was plain bad; and Dobbs proved himself mobile enough, and with enough pocket awareness, to not just stay upright and move the ball, but to mask a lot of the OL issues.

Do you have the same faith in Harris? And even if you do, is hope the same as Dobbs' proven ability?

(I hope Harris stays healthy, and we beat you anyway btw...)
 
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Orange_Crush said:
How mobile is Harris? Yes, our O-Line is questionable, but it was not questionable last year. It was plain bad; and Dobbs proved himself mobile enough, and with enough pocket awareness, to not just stay upright and move the ball, but to mask a lot of the OL issues.

Do you have the same faith in Harris? And even if you do, is hope the same as Dobbs' proven ability?

(I hope Harris stays healthy, and we beat you anyway btw...)
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Harris is extremely mobile. Check the stats earlier in this thread. He is a threat running with the ball. He took some sacks last year holding it too long in passing situations, but he was a true freshman in a really bad offense.

Regardless, unless something weird happens, Grier is the guy. Grier, BTW, is also mobile. Not as mobile as Harris, who is a true dual threat, but he can certainly run around.
 
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Just an observation. UF fans have just had a quiet confidence over the past decade as they've beaten us. In here they've been able to just chuckle and move things along as UT fans get overhyped.

This year it seems that here and otherwise I see UF fans trying to convince us and themselves that they will win.

Maybe it's nothing. But I like looking at the rosters and quietly saying to myself "we should win this game."
 
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mitzustu said:
Just an observation. UF fans have just had a quiet confidence over the past decade as they've beaten us. In here they've been able to just chuckle and move things along as UT fans get overhyped.

This year it seems that here and otherwise I see UF fans trying to convince us and themselves that they will win.

Maybe it's nothing. But I like looking at the rosters and quietly saying to myself "we should win this game."
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We should've won last year's game, too. "Should" is irrelevant, which is why I'm just going to sit and wait until it becomes "did."
 
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