So, this is floating around the Facebook, this morning...

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therealUT said:
The same place that I draw it from right now: my abilities. I certainly would not have had any hope in a God that I had spent my lifetime faithfully serving who repaid that faith by taking away loved ones simply to test that faith in order to win a bet.

Or, do you think that atheists simply off themselves when times get tough?
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what if its something your abilities would not be a help?

no,it's just a question of where somebody that doesn't believe in god draws strength from.
 
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loggervol said:
what if its something your abilities would not be a help?

no,it's just a question of where somebody that doesn't believe in god draws strength from.
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Do you believe it's possible to gather inner strength without God?
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Do you believe it's possible to gather inner strength without God?
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Yes, but I have limits. I've experienced challenges beyond my own abilities and come through in ways I could only attribute to outside help.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
My bad. It sounded like you were going through a rough time.
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Yes and no, it is with my boy. He is only 6 but asking amazing spititual/biblical questions.

As for the norm, my personal beliefs are radical. Trut and I agree a lot, I think our biggest difference is Luke.

I guess my own struggles and what I should say present to him only being 6.
 
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YorkVol said:
Yes, but I have limits. I've experienced challenges beyond my own abilities and come through in ways I could only attribute to outside help.
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always giving thanks to god for the good and the bad.there are times when we can't handle some things on our own and we need gods help.i draw strength from the promise made to me,from god.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Yes and no, it is with my boy. He is only 6 but asking amazing spititual/biblical questions.

As for the norm, my personal beliefs are radical. Trut and I agree a lot, I think our biggest difference is Luke.

I guess my own struggles and what I should say present to him only being 6.
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Gotcha. I'm in the same boat. I don't have kids yet, but I have though about how I would raise my child; let alone mesh my ideas of religion and child rearing with my future wifey.

I can deal with my own views or the views of my spouse, but bringing those views upon my child is a whole different matter. I'm torn on the subject personally and don't feel I will ever have a satisfactory answer. I guess it's one of those things you play by ear with your spouse.
 
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YorkVol said:
Yes, but I have limits. I've experienced challenges beyond my own abilities and come through in ways I could only attribute to outside help.
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The problem I would have is discerning whether that was the work of God who cared about me or random luck. I guess it's all in the perspective.
 
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loggervol said:
always giving thanks to god for the good and the bad.there are times when we can't handle some things on our own and we need gods help.i draw strength from the promise made to me,from god.
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A promise from scripture or a personal promise through prayer?
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Gotcha. I'm in the same boat. I don't have kids yet, but I have though about how I would raise my child; let alone mesh my ideas of religion and child rearing with my future wifey.

I can deal with my own views or the views of my spouse, but bringing those views upon my child is a whole different matter. I'm torn on the subject personally and don't feel I will ever have a satisfactory answer. I guess it's one of those things you play by ear with your spouse.
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He asked about Sauls conversion, it was a Sunday school lesson, and I was about to go on a rant but he would have no idea what I was talking about.

So I asked him what he thouggt, he was caught up in the blindness portion.

This is going to be silly, but we are huge fans of Jeremy Wades River Monsters. I always tell him the horror stories/legends are rooted in truth wuth human flare.

So we talked about what could have caused the blindness. When he gets older Ill rant about Saul being a fraud.

lol :)
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
He asked about Sauls conversion, it was a Sunday school lesson, and I was about to go on a rant but he would have no idea what I was talking about.

So I asked him what he thouggt, he was caught up in the blindness portion.

This is going to be silly, but we are huge fans of Jeremy Wades River Monsters. I always tell him the horror stories/legends are rooted in truth wuth human flare.

So we talked about what could have caused the blindness. When he gets older Ill rant about Saul being a fraud.

lol :)
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Lol. That's an interesting and funny tie-in. I hope I'm that creative as a father.
 
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loggervol said:
both.the promise of salvation from scripture and salvation,a gift givin through faith and prayer.
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Fair enough. Feel free to expand upon the second part. If you don't feel comfortable with sharing it, I understand.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Lol. That's an interesting and funny tie-in. I hope I'm that creative as a father.
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He is like me, crazy ocd/anal retentive order freak. So I know how to relate to him.

He had an episode in Japan about a like creature with hands that went after children. The boy was shook, and I dont blame him, but we watched it because he said its not true, Jeremy will find it.

Turns out it was a giant salamander.
 
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I think it is only human to question your beliefs.

I find myself questioning my own faith sometimes.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Great show, I love how,much time he spends on background and culture of where he will be fishing.

When he was in the secluded pacific was amazing.
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Definitely great television, those sorts of legends are ever present in japanese culture. Makes miyazaki movies that much better, because they are so rooted in regional lore.

Also, hate to admit it but I like it when that show delves into the macabre, like those amazonian worms with circular teeth
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Fair enough. Feel free to expand upon the second part. If you don't feel comfortable with sharing it, I understand.
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i asked god to save me and he did.and its still there and its never left me.even though i feel unworthy sometimes.
 
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milohimself said:
Definitely great television, those sorts of legends are ever present in japanese culture. Makes miyazaki movies that much better, because they are so rooted in regional lore.

Also, hate to admit it but I like it when that show delves into the macabre, like those amazonian worms with circular teeth
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Yes sir...........fish went into and lived in old boy for months
 
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