So who do you hire?

Personally, I'd be fine with Tennessee hiring a man if they have done their very best to give a woman the opportunity first. I would PREFER the next coach to be a woman because, IMO, one of Pat Summitt's most important, most enduring legacies is all the effort she gave to empower young women. She would scoff at the idea of coaching men -- though she very well could have been successful doing so -- because, primarily, she didn't want anyone to disrespect women with the implication that coaching men is the REAL triumph, and that coaching women is just... a fun little thing to do while you hope to get something better.

Pat was a leader for women in the Title IX fight, and made it pretty much her life's work to empower, to enrich, to teach and encourage young girls to grow into strong WOMEN.

So, to me, it seems like giving one of the most coveted jobs in all of women's college athletics to a man if there's a strong woman out there to give it to, would kinda feel like a wasted opportunity to reward a strong woman -- something Pat would have very likely appreciated.

Now, don't get me wrong. Pat's ultimate goal was for her SON to take the reins one day, and, obviously, he's not a woman. But I fully believe that, now that he's out of the picture, that in her heart of hearts Pat would want a woman to continue to build on her legacy of Strong Women Helping Build Future Strong Women.

And with ALLLLLLL that said, I'm also fairly certain that Pat wouldn't be so stubborn about it that she would have an absolute moratorium on hiring a man. I think she'd be just fine with it and supportive of whomever he was -- as long as everyone had given women a fair shake first.

And you might be thinking, "Phil should hire the BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE, regardless of gender!" And I'd agree. But I'd also remind everyone that "best candidate available" is a highly subjective term, and, being that, makes it easy for some people to inadvertently allow personal biases into their thought processes. I say this because I personally know a couple of budding misogynists who would rather be poked in the eye with a sharp, flaming stick than admit that there could even remotely be a qualified female candidate out there.

My bottom line? Make a strong effort to hire a woman. But if a man rises so high above the female candidates in his list of qualifications, then hire the man. I'm just excited to see what ANYONE else will do next with the talent she/he will have available!

All excellent points, particularly in regard to the "best candidate" argument. For such high level, multi-dimensional jobs is not always clear who is the best candidate among a set of candidates or the precise criteria used in making that judgment. In the NFL, for example, past head coaching experience was an oft cited criteria, which had the effect of keeping minority candidates out of the role, as well keeping the coaching ranks a bit older.. So, we had the revolving door a coach getting fired from one job but then getting hired to another because of his "experience." Then along came Sean McVey (LA Rams) and that model has been exploded-now teams are looking for young innovators.

On the gender equity issue, it is also the case that men can and do compete for jobs in women's programs but women can not compete for coaching jobs on the men's side (though Becky Hammond is one trail blazer, though still not a HC). When and if that situation changes, the emphasis that many place on keeping a women at the helm of the LVs program will probably start to fade.
 
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What about Matt Mitchell at Kentucky as a name to add to the list. He was an assistant or grad assistant under Summitt here.
He will probably get some votes this year for SEC coach of the year. He seems to develop players well.

The Miami or Marquette coaches seem to be good womens coaches. Also, I certainly feel like Kelly Harper Jolly has grown a lot since being fired from NC State. Put it this way, it would not take much to drastically improve the play and wins especially those games that are close and require actual coaching.
 
All excellent points, particularly in regard to the "best candidate" argument. For such high level, multi-dimensional jobs is not always clear who is the best candidate among a set of candidates or the precise criteria used in making that judgment. In the NFL, for example, past head coaching experience was an oft cited criteria, which had the effect of keeping minority candidates out of the role, as well keeping the coaching ranks a bit older.. So, we had the revolving door a coach getting fired from one job but then getting hired to another because of his "experience." Then along came Sean McVey (LA Rams) and that model has been exploded-now teams are looking for young innovators.

On the gender equity issue, it is also the case that men can and do compete for jobs in women's programs but women can not compete for coaching jobs on the men's side (though Becky Hammond is one trail blazer, though still not a HC). When and if that situation changes, the emphasis that many place on keeping a women at the helm of the LVs program will probably start to fade.


On your last paragraph; I don't think it's a matter of they can not compete. Men or women choose to coach in women's basketball because of their desire to teach and coach the game of basketball without the side show of dealing with inflated egos that have to be kept in check.
 
Let me start out by saying my choices may not come and depending on how much money I have to work with but... if I was the AD, McGraw from Notre Dame and Walz would have to tell me NO!!! Then I would probably move to Mitchell from UK. He seems to do more with less and think he would do great with our roster. He seems to do a great job developing players.

I know the university probably would not hire him and he may not be interested but on a fun note I would love to see Bruce Pearl coach the women. He loves the university and Pat Summit and I think the players would love playing for him. I think it would be exciting to see.
 
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I was looking at some of the coaches out there and who might be on the hot seat. This may be a banner year in womens basketball for coaching changes. Take a look at this list:

1) Oklahoma (Sherri Coale)
2) Purdue (Sharon Versyp)
3) Penn State (Coquese Washington)
4) LSU (Nikki Fargus)
5) Auburn (Terri Williams-Flournoy)
6) Alabama (Kristy Curry)
7) Tennessee (Holly Warlick)
8) Rutgers (Vivian Stringer--self resignation?)
9) Georgia Tech (MaChelle Joseph issues)
10) Duke (Joanne McCallie)

Now some of those can probably save their job making it to the tournament (Auburn, LSU, Tennessee) but it is quite a list--not so much because these are dynasty programs but because there are a lot of top shelf, blueblood, loaded $$$ schools with proud athletic traditions across the board.
 
I was looking at some of the coaches out there and who might be on the hot seat. This may be a banner year in womens basketball for coaching changes. Take a look at this list:

1) Oklahoma (Sherri Coale)
2) Purdue (Sharon Versyp)
3) Penn State (Coquese Washington)
4) LSU (Nikki Fargus)
5) Auburn (Terri Williams-Flournoy)
6) Alabama (Kristy Curry)
7) Tennessee (Holly Warlick)
8) Rutgers (Vivian Stringer--self resignation?)
9) Georgia Tech (MaChelle Joseph issues)
10) Duke (Joanne McCallie)

Now some of those can probably save their job making it to the tournament (Auburn, LSU, Tennessee) but it is quite a list--not so much because these are dynasty programs but because there are a lot of top shelf, blueblood, loaded $$$ schools with proud athletic traditions across the board.
I think Tennessee could outbid Miami for head coach Katie Meier
 
I think Tennessee could outbid Miami for head coach Katie Meier

If there is competition for Katie Meier it won't be Miami--it will be Duke. And while Tennessee is clearly Tennessee, Duke is probably 1B on that list from most to lease attractive. Duke can and probably would outbid Tennessee. Duke is in the ACC and is an elite academic institution. For a lot of coaches Duke will be higher on the pecking order than Tennessee.
 
If there is competition for Katie Meier it won't be Miami--it will be Duke
Since there will be a lot of competition for potential head coaches if I were Phil Fulmer I would give an interview to former Duke and Texas head coach Gail Goestenkors who is an assistant coach for the Indiana Fever of the WNBA


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Let me start out by saying my choices may not come and depending on how much money I have to work with but... if I was the AD, McGraw from Notre Dame and Walz would have to tell me NO!!! Then I would probably move to Mitchell from UK. He seems to do more with less and think he would do great with our roster. He seems to do a great job developing players.

I know the university probably would not hire him and he may not be interested but on a fun note I would love to see Bruce Pearl coach the women. He loves the university and Pat Summit and I think the players would love playing for him. I think it would be exciting to see.

I don't think Bruce Pearl has an ounce of humility in his body that would be required for that move. Maybe if after he serves another show cause suspension at Auburn and their dog grooming business falters, he'd consider it.
 
I was looking at some of the coaches out there and who might be on the hot seat. This may be a banner year in womens basketball for coaching changes. Take a look at this list:

1) Oklahoma (Sherri Coale)
2) Purdue (Sharon Versyp)
3) Penn State (Coquese Washington)
4) LSU (Nikki Fargus)
5) Auburn (Terri Williams-Flournoy)
6) Alabama (Kristy Curry)
7) Tennessee (Holly Warlick)
8) Rutgers (Vivian Stringer--self resignation?)
9) Georgia Tech (MaChelle Joseph issues)
10) Duke (Joanne McCallie)

Now some of those can probably save their job making it to the tournament (Auburn, LSU, Tennessee) but it is quite a list--not so much because these are dynasty programs but because there are a lot of top shelf, blueblood, loaded $$$ schools with proud athletic traditions across the board.

Outside of a Jeff Walz, Muffet McGraw type of hire which I don't foresee happening- if we pass or let one of these other teams slide in ahead of us and get a Wes Moore type of coach and settle for an up and comer or another experiment I will be very disappointed. He does at about as much with less than about any coach out there. They are playing without 3 of their starters and still playing pretty good basketball. He makes far less than Warlick too which is one reason he should be at least interviewed.
 
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Outside of a Jeff Walz, Muffet McGraw type of hire which I don't foresee happening- if we pass or let one of these other teams slide in ahead of us and get a Wes Moore type of coach and settle for an up and comer or another experiment I will be very disappointed. He does at about as much with less than about any coach out there. They are playing without 3 of their starters and still playing pretty good basketball. He makes far less than Warlick too which is one reason he should be at least interviewed.

One that concerns me is Tina Langley at Rice. Long time assistant to Brenda Friese at Maryland. She’s completed the turnaround job at Rice. She has the “it” factor. Prob won’t be on UTs radar but shell be in play at LSU, Auburn, Alabama or Georgia Tech. Possibly Penn State as well due to familiarity with recruiting grounds of east coast from time at UMD.
 
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Outside of a Jeff Walz, Muffet McGraw type of hire which I don't foresee happening- if we pass or let one of these other teams slide in ahead of us and get a Wes Moore type of coach and settle for an up and comer or another experiment I will be very disappointed. He does at about as much with less than about any coach out there. They are playing without 3 of their starters and still playing pretty good basketball. He makes far less than Warlick too which is one reason he should be at least interviewed.

I believe Wes Moore is the kind of man that Pat would be thrilled to see coach the Lady Vols.
 
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Former Duke and Texas head coach Gail Goestenkors is available;)

I think Becky Hammond will put in for it because she actually went to interview at USC women's team but later pull out if I'm not mistaken. That was a smart move for her because that school is not getting high recruits. Her goal is to coach men but that doesn't mean that a big program like TN come open she won't run.. When I look at holly, I see how much dumb she is because a smart coach would've resigned long time like Cynthia cooper did at USC eventhough she won their conference in her 2nd yr, but after that she stepped down knowing that high players are not coming in.
 
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I think Becky Hammond will put in for it because she actually went to interview at USC women's team but later pull out if I'm not mistaken. That was a smart move for her because that school is not getting high recruits. Her goal is to coach men but that doesn't mean that a big program like TN come open she won't run.. When I look at holly, I see how much dumb she is because a smart coach would've resigned long time like Cynthia cooper did at USC eventhough she won their conference in her 2nd yr, but after that she stepped down knowing that high players are not coming in.
Becky Hammond would be a tremendous homerun hire. She would possibly be the Nick Saban of women's college basketball and Tennessee would have the change of rising to the level of UConn. That being said I think she will stay where she is most likely but I've been shocked before.
 
Let me start out by saying my choices may not come and depending on how much money I have to work with but... if I was the AD, McGraw from Notre Dame and Walz would have to tell me NO!!! Then I would probably move to Mitchell from UK. He seems to do more with less and think he would do great with our roster. He seems to do a great job developing players.

I know the university probably would not hire him and he may not be interested but on a fun note I would love to see Bruce Pearl coach the women. He loves the university and Pat Summit and I think the players would love playing for him. I think it would be exciting to see.
Bruce Pearl is a sleazeball. You wouldn’t want him anywhere near a women’s team. His reputation for cheating on his wife and having affairs with other married women is pretty bad.
 
Anybody would be better than Holly who said we deserved to be in the NCAA because of our sos and that players are on social media 24/7. That shows how inept she is as a coach. Get them off social media 24/7 other coaches do it .
 
Bruce Pearl is a sleazeball. You wouldn’t want him anywhere near a women’s team. His reputation for cheating on his wife and having affairs with other married women is pretty bad.
People that bring up these coaches making 3 million and above should not even make a statement. Let me list coaches that Tennessee would never hire that have been mentioned. Dawn Staley 2 million a year at SC, Bruce Pearl over 3 million at Auburn he makes more than Barnes. Mulkey makes to much money for Tennessee, the UConn coach, and a very long list of men's coaches that I want try to list them all.
If we hire another coach the price will be no more than a million a year that is why the top mid-major coaches and top Assistants around the country are the hiring pool. That is what will happen if we make a new hire so get ready and find names that fit that price range because Tennessee is going to have to shell out to Barnes real soon and already started hiking the football payroll.
 
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I saw in presser last night that Holly said "I am so daggone competitive" and said also her team had "no desire to play defense the 3rd and 4th quarters"... On God's green earth, how are those 2 statements consistent.... you would think she would play walk ons if she wasn't getting effort from the starters.... but she has always excused lack of effort... as she says she cannot coach effort ... which is false. As sorry as I feel in a way for the players.... the Tennessee program is EXACTLY where it chooses to be..... I have seen the past 8 years how Holly cannot coach..... (I am high school coach, tho not college level)..... add to that Tennessee promotes football and for WCBB has operated on the "good enough" theory.... as long as they are competitive, then the box is check marked. All these big names Tenn fans want to rescue the program.... why? Jeff Walz and Kara Lawson Becky Hammon aren't coming... and what they need is a TEACHER to coach them up.... focus on fundamentals.... the basics.... they can do that for 300K if they want.... hey the circus is entertaining every day.... but sometimes it is sensory overload
I truly believe that Holly is competitive, however, the issue maybe the ability to relate to the players. For years, or at least the last three, she has had the same general complaint about the players lack of effort. It seems that she lacks the ability to get the best out of her players. Whatever is happening, the players do not seem to be responding to her coaching style. Just because you are competitive does not mean you are a good coach. Holly seriously need to do some soul searching.
 
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If there is competition for Katie Meier it won't be Miami--it will be Duke. And while Tennessee is clearly Tennessee, Duke is probably 1B on that list from most to lease attractive. Duke can and probably would outbid Tennessee. Duke is in the ACC and is an elite academic institution. For a lot of coaches Duke will be higher on the pecking order than Tennessee.

Grant Williams, an academic high performer, might disagree with your assessment.
 
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Totally agree.... i know many LV fans say it is the holy grail.... but based on what?

As of right now they are running on the fumes of past glory, which stopped more than a decade ago..... and the South Carolinas, Miss States, Oregons, Oregon States, Baylors, Notre Dames, and many more are passing them like they are standing still

It doesn’t have to be the “holy grail” to find a coach more competent than Holly Warlick. There are dozens of coaches who are far more competent than Warlick. It won’t be difficult to replace her
 
Grant Williams, an academic high performer, might disagree with your assessment.

Nice try but I’m not arguing there aren’t high achievers at Tennessee. Duke is an elite top tier national university. That’s a nice thing to have in your recruiting pitch—especially in women’s sports.
 

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