Solo: A Star Wars Story

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#251
Solo was really good. IMO

It suffered (at the box office) because for what ever reason Star Wars "Fanboys" hated and bad mouthed it trying to get it to do bad and it worked but it back fired on them in regards to them possibly cancelling future Stand-Alone films.

These "Fanboys" need to get it through their heads that the Star Wars movies aren't made for 45-65 year olds in other words them.

They are as they have always been made for and that is the 8-16 year olds as they were in 1977, 1980 & 1983 and kids of all ages. Just because you have aged and matured doesn't mean the films should have to to still enjoy them.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I can understand story criticism like TFA was a reboot of ANH or not being happy with the direction of Luke’s character in TLJ.

I cannot understand criticism over the cast being more diverse. The stories have ZERO to do with the characters gender or earthly cultures. It’s not like they race swapped a previously established character or the story is all about Rey becoming the most powerful female in the galaxy.

If you leave the theater and that is your concern you probably have bigger issues.
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I don’t mind that the cast is diverse. Solo was watchable, and RO is in the running as my favorite SW movie if all time.

My issue is TFA and especially TLJ seemed to be that the effort in production was more focused on political and social commentary than story telling. TLJ was the worst, it was an outright attack on the original story. Add in the bits about the casino planet and how it’s evil to be rich. The commentary on war profiteering. All evil people are white men in the movie. I’m all about diversity and what not....and I agree with some of the messaging as a political statement....but I don’t want to see it while I’m sitting in a Star Wars movie. Plain and simple.

You can tell the story that appeals to a younger generation while still holding to the spirit that enthralled the original crowd. Disney, however, didn’t even try and in fact gave the finger to the older crowds. I agree that is why Solo did so bad by Star Wars standards. Heck, I’m a huge Star Wars fan and I’m debating if I even want to waste money seeing E9 in the theater at this point.
 
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rjd970 said:
I don’t mind that the cast is diverse. Solo was watchable, and RO is in the running as my favorite SW movie if all time.

My issue is TFA and especially TLJ seemed to be that the effort in production was more focused on political and social commentary than story telling. TLJ was the worst, it was an outright attack on the original story. Add in the bits about the casino planet and how it’s evil to be rich. The commentary on war profiteering. All evil people are white men in the movie. I’m all about diversity and what not....and I agree with some of the messaging as a political statement....but I don’t want to see it while I’m sitting in a Star Wars movie. Plain and simple.

You can tell the story that appeals to a younger generation while still holding to the spirit that enthralled the original crowd. Disney, however, didn’t even try and in fact gave the finger to the older crowds. I agree that is why Solo did so bad by Star Wars standards. Heck, I’m a huge Star Wars fan and I’m debating if I even want to waste money seeing E9 in the theater at this point.
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You're right, but they will never admit it. The agenda is their own..they love that crap.
 
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Apparently the talk was premature anyway, as Lucasfilm has said the reports are inaccurate. They haven't said anything concrete but sounds like the stand alone movies they had already started are still on track, and that the report was talking about any movies after those.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
And Solo's struggles are related in part to the TLJ backlash along with other factors such as release date close to TLJ, overall "meh" factor, and Alden Ehrenreich. It has been a cascade effect to come to this point but it is what it is. Ironically, Solo was actually pretty good imo and more people would have enjoyed it had they NOT boycotted it.
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I am a huge sw fan.
I have been so turned off by the new trilogy I haven’t even seen Solo.
I am that guy you are talking about.
I loved Rogue One and thought Last Jedi would turn things around but it was crap.
Have no excitement about the next one either. Just more crap to kill my childhood memories.

The cartoons have been very good though....
 
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rjd970 said:
I don’t mind that the cast is diverse. Solo was watchable, and RO is in the running as my favorite SW movie if all time.

My issue is TFA and especially TLJ seemed to be that the effort in production was more focused on political and social commentary than story telling. TLJ was the worst, it was an outright attack on the original story. Add in the bits about the casino planet and how it’s evil to be rich. The commentary on war profiteering. All evil people are white men in the movie. I’m all about diversity and what not....and I agree with some of the messaging as a political statement....but I don’t want to see it while I’m sitting in a Star Wars movie. Plain and simple.

You can tell the story that appeals to a younger generation while still holding to the spirit that enthralled the original crowd. Disney, however, didn’t even try and in fact gave the finger to the older crowds. I agree that is why Solo did so bad by Star Wars standards. Heck, I’m a huge Star Wars fan and I’m debating if I even want to waste money seeing E9 in the theater at this point.
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Sound observation here. In every other Star Wars movie it’s them dang Iraqi’s and Muslims that are the bad guys.....
 
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NEOCON said:
I am a huge sw fan.
I have been so turned off by the new trilogy I haven’t even seen Solo.
I am that guy you are talking about.
I loved Rogue One and thought Last Jedi would turn things around but it was crap.
Have no excitement about the next one either. Just more crap to kill my childhood memories.

The cartoons have been very good though....
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You should definitely watch Solo. It was very entertaining, fits well with The originals and RO. I think so many got mad at TLJ they’re holding it against Solo, I can understand this as I was expecting to be disappointed, but was pleasantly surprised. I love RO, but it’s so dark and a little depressing that I will probably not watch as often, but Solo is fun and entertaining enough that I will watch it over and over as I have the originals.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
The Radicalization of Luke Skywalker: A Jedi’s Path to Jihad | Decider
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From introducing him to us in A New Hope (as a simple farm boy gazing into the Tatooine sunset), to his eventual transformation into the radicalized insurgent of Return of the Jedi (as one who sets his own father’s corpse on fire and celebrates the successful bombing of the Death Star), each film in the original trilogy is another step in Luke’s descent into terrorism.
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that's just about the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever read.
 
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NEOCON said:
I am a huge sw fan.
I have been so turned off by the new trilogy I haven’t even seen Solo.
I am that guy you are talking about.
I loved Rogue One and thought Last Jedi would turn things around but it was crap.
Have no excitement about the next one either. Just more crap to kill my childhood memories.

The cartoons have been very good though....
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Solo is good. I've seen it twice, enjoyed it both times unlike TLJ where the more I watched it the more I disliked it.
 
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MG1968 said:
It probably is, but there are legions of Star Wars nerds out there who are resisting anything Disney is doing even while they acknowledge how badly Lucas was screwing things up.
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Its not mutually exclusive, they can both screw things up.
 
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I watched The Empire Strikes Back on TNT the other night for the first time in a few years... That is still one helluva great movie. It had everything; a great battlefield sequence (on Hoth), a great dog fighting and maneuvering sequence (the Falcon alluding tie fighters through an asteroid field), a mysterious new villain (Fett), a credible romance, great humor (Leia "I love you!" ... Han "I know."), a great duel (Luke and Vader) and a spectacular climax of great drama ("No. I am your father.") Best of all, it didn't tie everything together neatly with a happy ending. There was hope but that was it.

Every Star Wars movie made will always suffer in comparison to this. It was close to perfect. I think it's impossible for the Star Wars junkies to lower their standards. That's why a good (but not great) movie like Solo is getting rejected.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I watched The Empire Strikes Back on TNT the other night for the first time in a few years... That is still one helluva great movie. It had everything; a great battlefield sequence (on Hoth), a great dog fighting and maneuvering sequence (the Falcon alluding tie fighters through an asteroid field), a mysterious new villain (Fett), a credible romance, great humor (Leia "I love you!" ... Han "I know."), a great duel (Luke and Vader) and a spectacular climax of great drama ("No. I am your father.") Best of all, it didn't tie everything together neatly with a happy ending. There was hope but that was it.

Every Star Wars movie made will always suffer in comparison to this. It was close to perfect. I think it's impossible for the Star Wars junkies to lower their standards. That's why a good (but not great) movie like Solo is getting rejected.
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I think the same way of “a new hope.”
Those two are the absolute epitome of perfection.
 
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bignewt said:
Until it isnt.
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you get out of it what you put in.

really, no s/w movie should have all that much invested in to it from a critical standpoint. it's fantasy sci fi with campy humor, and a really good base story to work from, with mostly interesting characters and backgrounds.

some of it is definitely better than others, no doubt.

and for many, like me, it's just a window back to when i was a kid and how much fun it was. TFA, and R1 espeically, really did that for me. TLJ, i'm warming up to it, but there's no doubt that at this point, that movie was just a set up to have the ability to make more s/w movies on a different story line so they can make money for as long as people will go see the movie.

and i'm ok with that.:eek:lol:
 
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jakez4ut said:
you get out of it what you put in.

really, no s/w movie should have all that much invested in to it from a critical standpoint. it's fantasy sci fi with campy humor, and a really good base story to work from, with mostly interesting characters and backgrounds.

some of it is definitely better than others, no doubt.

and for many, like me, it's just a window back to when i was a kid and how much fun it was. TFA, and R1 espeically, really did that for me. TLJ, i'm warming up to it, but there's no doubt that at this point, that movie was just a set up to have the ability to make more s/w movies on a different story line so they can make money for as long as people will go see the movie.

and i'm ok with that.:eek:lol:
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Its cool you can enjoy them. As i can find enjoyment out of original sharp films.
 
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bignewt said:
Its cool you can enjoy them. As i can find enjoyment out of original sharp films.
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It's strange that you post as much as you do on the topic of Star Wars movies, since you obviously don't like them. I can't stand the lame a$$ Transformer movies (after the first one), so I stopped seeing them and I don't talk about them.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's strange that you post as much as you do on the topic of Star Wars movies, since you obviously don't like them. I can't stand the lame a$$ Transformer movies (after the first one), so I stopped seeing them and I don't talk about them.
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I enjoy the discussion. Also dont see a bunch of transformers threads do you? If so let me know and i will pontificate accordingly.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's strange that you post as much as you do on the topic of Star Wars movies, since you obviously don't like them. I can't stand the lame a$$ Transformer movies (after the first one), so I stopped seeing them and I don't talk about them.
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I had this discussion in the “movies you’ve seen recently” thread.

I really liked the second transformers. One of the biggest complaints people had about the first one was that Optimus Prime wasn’t the “take everyone on” unstoppable fighter that he’s known for. Transformers 2 made up for that with the fight scene in the woods where he basically fought all of the Decepticons by himself, the overall best scene in all of the Transfomer movies, IMO.
 
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